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The US Patent and Trademark Office this week repeated loud and clear it will only accept patent applications that list actual real humans as the inventor and not AI. That said, officials signaled they are willing to consider inventions developed with the assistance of artificial intelligence, though the human inventors listed …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    FAIL

    the USPTO

    It can talk about upholding whatever it wants, it has done nothing but undermine the very idea of patents since the beginning of the 20th century.

    By never verifying prior art and letting the judicial system take care of issues, the USPTO is just a rubber stamp for multi-billion-dollar behemoths and serves no longer the ideal of the individual inventor getting recognized for an idea.

    On top of that, the USPTo has long forgotten the idea that a patent could only be granted to an idea that was functionally described in full, thus, when the patent expired, others coulld pick up the idea and make use of it. Today, patents are granted on simple ideas (round corners, anyone?), and their functionality is no longer a subject of examination.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: the USPTO

      It really *isn't* a rubber stamp, but the quality of examination is a bit of a lottery and (IMHO) leaves quite a bit to be desired compared to the other big IP offices.

      / European Patent Attorney

  2. JassMan
    FAIL

    how will they prove AI had a part in invention.

    Experience has already shown that AI is a big liar when when it comes to being consistent. Several researchers who haven't published recently have asked AI to give them a biography, which includes the fact that they have dies. One going as far as stating the graveyard where the very much alive reasearcher is buried.

    If the USPTO refuses a patent based on the major part having been the inventor, how will that AI be trusted in court?

  3. johnrobyclayton

    Is it obvious

    From https://itsartlaw.org/2015/12/23/state-of-the-art-introduction-to-patent-law/

    The second requirement that needs to be satisfied to obtain a patent is nonobviousness. Nonobviousness is a difficult concept in patent law that is a lot more confusing than it might appear. Simply put, nonobviousness is the requirement that someone would not be able to easily create the invention merely by looking at what has already been invented.

    If a purely mechanical process is used to derive an otherwise patentable idea, even if it involves random number generation of setting initial weights for a deep learning model, from mcurrently available information, then it is obvious and cannot be patented.

    As soon as we get general AI that can invent anything, then the idea and requirements of Patents are dead.

    1. TheInternetsFullOfNumbers

      Re: Is it obvious

      Which leads us to the "Clayton Test" (thank you JRC):

      If, when given a prompt that expresses the problem to be solved, an AI proposes a solution that is substantially similar to the one described in the patent, then the patent is automatically invalid on the grounds of lack or original thought.

      That would be a great test to use before a patent is awarded, or to be used if a patent is disputed.

      1. catprog

        Re: Is it obvious

        Then the ai get trained on the patents and mostly reproduces the patent in question

    2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Is it obvious

      >then it is obvious and cannot be patented.

      So a hull design produced by CFD can't be patented because it's a purely mechanical process?

      I can see some algorithms being trickier. I can patent an algorithm for detecting corners in an image (or I can't cos someone already did) so why can't I patent a trained model to do the same?

  4. Neoc

    It has nothing to do with who came up with the idea. It has to do with who can be brought to answer for the Patent. A human being (or a corporation via its board/owners) can be made to answerable and, if necessary, brough to court.

    AI cannot be (yet) and thus AI cannot hold patents.

    1. I am David Jones Silver badge

      No they can’t. A patent owner can chose to negotiate / settle / litigate but merely owning a patent comes with no legal obligations.

      But as to ownership I agree: whatever tool is used to make an invention, there has to be a human pulling the strings.

  5. Snowy Silver badge
    Coat

    Companies

    Really, not much has changed: Inventors and joint inventors must be natural persons, and those persons must pass the standard Pannu test, which among other things requires them to have made substantial contributions to the designs.

    So companies can not be listed as inventor as they are not natural persons?

    1. veti Silver badge

      Re: Companies

      That's correct. When a company gets a patent, the inventor is still listed as a person, or more likely a bunch of people, probably employees of the company. Those individuals then promptly (by the terms of their employment, probably) assign the patent to the company.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Companies

      Yes. Typically the company will be the “applicant” and have all the rights that having a patent involves.

      Inventors will be named people who contributed to the invention. To what extent they benefit from being a named inventor depends on their contractual / legal situation.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "The US Patent and Trademark Office this week repeated loud and clear it will only accept patent applications that list actual real humans as the inventor and not AI."

    Considering they patent anything not patented earlier (and sometimes even that) as long as someone pays for it, this is absolute hypocrisy, they don't care an iota.

    Pure lipstick on a pig.

  7. Omnipresent Silver badge

    The people in charge cannot be this ignorant.

    I refuse to believe it.

    1. veti Silver badge

      Re: The people in charge cannot be this ignorant.

      Nice world you've got there.

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