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Microsoft has confirmed that Copilot is on its way into Notepad, with a release of the application being rolled out to Windows Insiders in the Canary and Dev Channels on Windows 11. Screenshots of the application began floating around last month but this week's release – almost drowned out by sudo making an appearance in …

  1. steelpillow Silver badge
    WTF?

    What happened to everything in between?

    Nothing for decades, then suddenly AI. Whatever next? SharePoint playing nicely with .txt files??!?

    Whatever happened to multiple undo, code highlighting, the meat of the libre Notepad++, yadda yadda.

    1. MiguelC Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: "multiple undo, code highlighting, (...), yadda yadda."

      For all that you use Notepad++

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'm sorry Dave

    I can't let you paste that.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I'm sorry Dave

      You think you're joking, but Microsoft Purview (their Data Leap Protection -DLP- tool) can do exactly that.

      No, seriously, I'm not kidding. If trade unions really want to start a political fight, the surveillance everyone is under when using a Microsoft environment ought to make for an interesting spat.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I'm sorry Dave

        Op here. No idea why 'Leak' became 'Leap' but it somehow fits as your corporate data leaps over the barriers that you erect and heads straight for Redmond.

        There's a lot more to it, but everything that ends in ..microsoft.com means that Microsoft controls it, and you're just along for the (expensive) ride.

  3. John Robson Silver badge

    Or maybe...

    Notepad - and Pilot..

    No-pilot?

  4. devin3782
    FAIL

    I can see notepad as being a great vector to paste malware in and infect the AI running on Microsoft's servers. Also think of all the juicy little tid bits of secret information Microsoft will be able to scrape because we all know the co-pilot won't run locally.

  5. navarac Silver badge

    Why?

    Why on earth would you want AI in Notepad/File Explorer/OneDrive? MS run by intern robots. I'm glad I went to Linux!

    1. Plest Silver badge

      Re: Why?

      Because MS can, it's their app and if they want to ruin it then we all known they will!

      1. Someone Else Silver badge

        Re: Why?

        They'll ruin it even without wanting to....

    2. 43300 Silver badge

      Re: Why?

      "Why on earth would you want AI in Notepad"

      You wouldn't. It's Microsoft which wants it!

    3. Juha Meriluoto

      Re: Why?

      I, for one, would like all software to have a mandatory "Take your AI and shove it" tickbox...

      1. 43300 Silver badge

        Re: Why?

        That might be second on my list of useful buttons. The first would definitely be one labelled 'fuck off and never ask me again' on all those dialogue boxes which have 'yes' or 'remind me later / tomorrow / the next day / next week' as the only options.

  6. Dwarf

    Screwing the OS bit by bit

    They seem to be more interested in screwing all aspects of the OS up, bit by bit.

    Its almost as if they have forgotten what an OS is supposed to do.

    You also have to ask the question - who actually asked for this / wants this ?

    1. 43300 Silver badge

      Re: Screwing the OS bit by bit

      "Its almost as if they have forgotten what an OS is supposed to do."

      I think that what the users want an operating system to do (run programs and not get in the way), and what Microsoft wants it to do (slurp, slurp) are not at all the same thing...

  7. Sir Sham Cad

    I like the Snipping Tool idea, that would be useful and time saving for me.

    Never, in all my IT career, have I ever decided to paste something into Notepad, in order to lose the shitty formatting, and thought "fuck me, what does this actually mean? If only a crap LLM could help me!"

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Until all you want is a screen grab so key Fn+PrnSc and get Snipping tool…

      Looks like the changes to the snipping tool are an attempt to make it more of a paint package and thus slower for the majority of its use.

      1. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

        Wait for it...

        CoPilot in the Snipping Tool.

        1. katrinab Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: Wait for it...

          Stable diffusion in the snipping tool ...

  8. hoola Silver badge

    Gobbledegook

    Does this mean that when you type it is going to do the same whacky auto correction and suggests that we get in Word and everything else?

    As long as the don't inject it between the keyboard and everything you type in then fine, it they do that then we are utterly stuffed.

  9. Roland6 Silver badge

    Windows Safe Mode

    So does this mean Copilot is part of Safe Mode, or does it mean Notepad will no longer work in Safe Mode?

  10. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Canary?

    Surely Microsoft should be using the Canary[Dodo] Channel to showcase their AI wares

  11. Someone Else Silver badge

    CoPilot is to Notepad as steamroller is to underpants.

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      I other words, "just pants"

  12. johnB

    No No No

    The whole point of Notepad as far as I'm concerned is that it's very, very simple.

    No hidden formatting. Or anything else. What you see is what you get.

    And it's great for stripping out unwanted formatting.

    Keep it that way.

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Re: No No No

      Along with their "UX" tweaks on Windows, and keyboards on laptops now having Function keys shared with navigation keys which make life difficult for programmers who need those keys frequently, I think Microsoft don't like programmers - especially if they are not employed by Microsoft

      1. W.S.Gosset Silver badge

        Re: No No No

        ^programmers^people

        1. W.S.Gosset Silver badge

          Re: No No No

          And it's not just Microsoft, either. There's a progressive building-up of explicitly anti-user changes in UI/functionality across most of the software development culture. "Make a change! Impress my peers!" rather than "solve a problem/improve a task/consider the use-case/consider the human".

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: No No No

        The default operation of the F keys on this work supplied laptop is to operate the laptop functions rather than the F keys. One can change this behaviour in the BIOS; however, for security reasons we have been locked out of it.

        As Excel is more or less my day job, I routinely use various keyboard shortcuts to get around. F2 and F4, Ctrl-up/Ctrl-down probably the most heavily re-used ones. On said laptop, that means I have developed something of a muscle memory to do Fn-F2, Ctrl-Fn-up, etc. Ergonomics was clearly not the first thought of those that decided to hide the options.

        I would plug in a proper keyboard though I don't have the desk space at home.

        The Fn key behaviour can be changed after booting though there is no feedback on what is mode is in operation (hardware or software). As such keys are that ubiquitous now it's perhaps a little surprising that they aren't handled OS-side in a standardised manner.

        1. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: No No No

          I despise laptop keyboards, so I *made* room on my desk for a real one. Monitor on lifted platform, lappie shoved umder platform (with lid propped up for cooling airflow -- guess how I found *that* one out?) and a giant USB breakout dongle for camera, KB, token, etc.

          KB sits in front of lappie, there's now plenty of room for it and a mouse to the side (mouse USB dongle is in the massive USB breakout, along with its "wiggler" to prevent 5 minute passworded sleep, not needed for wfh)

  13. Paul 87

    It's bad enough they've screwed up Notepad to give it a "memory" and tabs, and now they want to cram bloatware into what is a necessary tool for handling basic logs?

    Utterly stupid decision making

    All they had to do was to create a *new* application with these features instead.

    1. katrinab Silver badge
      Megaphone

      They already did. It is called VS Code.

  14. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

    "Either hitting Ctrl + E or selecting "Explain with Copilot" will ignite Microsoft's assistant and provide an explanation for the highlighted text."

    Is that ALL it does? If so, it's probably going to be the least used "feature" even written.

    The days of hand writing HTML in notepad are long gone, and I doubt anyone uses it for significant programming - there are many much better code editors around.

    Notepad is a quick, simple text twiddling tool, and is very good at being that. I can't see anyone ever needing it to explain stuff to them.

  15. Omnipresent Silver badge

    All yur codes

    belongs to me.

    1. Jason Hindle Silver badge

      Re: All yur codes

      Are belong to us. FTFY

  16. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    Telemetry

    Probably their Telemetry revealed that people use Notepad a lot and therefore they wanted to build in some more snooping on the back of "AI improvements"

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Notepad

    Should be a safe place.

    A true WYSIWYG space.

  18. katrinab Silver badge
    Flame

    Why?

    If you want a fully-featured code editor, Microsoft have VSCode. Other editors obviously exist as well. Install one of them.

    The whole point of Notepad is that it is supposed to be a lightweight part of the default install which does the basics, and only the basics.

    Introducing support for Unix-style line endings was good, everything else is just bloat.

  19. Big_Boomer

    B-b-b-b-b-but how else can we justify the BILLIONS spent on "AI"?

    It's time for the Microsoft shotgun of functionality. We've created something but have no idea what use it could have, so we will throw it at everything and see if any of it sticks. What's next? Deepfake logfiles? <LOL>

    1. Someone Else Silver badge

      Re: B-b-b-b-b-but how else can we justify the BILLIONS spent on "AI"?

      It's time for the Microsoft shotgun of functionality. We've created something but have no idea what use it could have or whether it even works, so we will throw it at everything and see if any of it sticks doesn't suck (too much...). [...]

      There, FTFY

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