back to article Apple Vision Pro is creating a new generation of glassholes

If you've paid any attention to social media in the past four days, it's likely you haven't been able to escape the torrent of photos and videos of people wearing Apple's new $3,499 headset in public, tapping away at empty space in front of them, rudely waving at cars, or sporting a pair while driving a Tesla. We had a word …

  1. sarusa Silver badge
    Devil

    Tessholes

    It is no coincidence at all that the plurality of these involved Tesla owners. Lotta -hole crossover there.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Tessholes

      Just another confirmation that most drivers of MuskMobiles are assholes. Many of them were clearly the BMW/Audi assholes of the past.

      There is a reason that the Model 3 has such small turn indicators on the rear as no Tesla driver ever uses them.

      Oh, and in the UK most recent Tesla's are white. With our weather and roads... they never look clean. Here, every other colour costs £££££. Any colour as long as it is white. Madness.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Re: Tessholes

        Madness! Madness I tell you!

        Oh the humanity!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Tessholes

          Are you having an eppy?

      2. NoneSuch Silver badge
        Go

        Re: Tessholes

        Glassholes driving Tesla's.

        The perfect pairing for a disaster movie opening.

        Hey, I'll say it. "They're wearing them wrong."

      3. Chet Mannly

        Re: Tessholes

        "Many of them were clearly the BMW/Audi assholes of the past."

        LOL I'd never thought about it that way but you sir are 100% on the money!

  2. Dinanziame Silver badge

    They claim to have a passthrough latency of 12ms, which is impressive to be sure. I suppose we'll soon know whether this is good enough to walk around for a long time without barfing. The field of view is severely reduced though, so even if walking around is okayish, driving is not, and will not.

    I don't see a lot of people actually using the screen in front to display their eyes, it seems more creepy than useful.

    One thing I haven't seen either is people asking angrily if the wearer is recording a video, which I remember was a feature of Google Glass. Maybe it pays to be second.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Drivers license renewals here require a test of your field of view. In that respect a driver wearing these would not be a legally capable driver.

      1. NoneSuch Silver badge
        Gimp

        "Drivers license renewals here require a test of your field of view. In that respect a driver wearing these would not be a legally capable driver."

        I'm sure a driving test wearing a piece of opaque glass over your face would disqualify them from driving as well.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          You are allowed "glasses or contact lenses", but if used for your license test, they become a license condition, and you have to drive in AR for evermore.

    2. unimaginative

      One thing I haven't seen either is people asking angrily if the wearer is recording a video, which I remember was a feature of Google Glass. Maybe it pays to be second.

      People are a lot more used to being videoed thanks to mobile phones, video camera doorbells, pervasive CCTV etc.

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

        I believe most of the time, that question was being asked in the Gents.

    3. tony72

      I don't see a lot of people actually using the screen in front to display their eyes, it seems more creepy than useful.

      They probably are, but just can't see it. According to Marques Brownlee's in depth videos, the surface is so reflective, and the front display is so dim through the lenticular lens, that in any kind of light at all, you just can't see the creepy eyes. Probably for the best.

    4. Whiskers

      Reminds me of "slow glass" <https://reactormag.com/slow-glass-seen-from-all-around-bob-shaws-other-days-other-eyes/>

  3. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Glassholes

    It always seemed a bit of an over-reaction

    Were there really armies of google glass wearers following people into bathrooms to video them?

    Was it just a slow news day and the Us equivalent of the Daily Fail had a field day? Did the hate just go viral for no reason?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Glassholes

      There are a load of Tesla Assholes with these trying to get their 15 nano seconds of Internet Fame.

      Including one who faked being arrested for driving his TeslaTRuckPOS wearing one of these things.

      https://9to5mac.com/2024/02/06/vision-pro-cybertruck-video-arrest/

      Then there are those who really do drive with them on. Darwin's Law awaits.

      Many other US sites are reporting the antics of these numbskulls.

      https://insideevs.com/news/707382/tesla-apple-vision-pro-driving/

      It is not just the Daily Flail.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Glassholes

        Yes but none of this explains the (alleged) pitchfork wielding mobs hunting down the original Google-glass wearers = "glassholes"

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: original Google-glass wearers = "glassholes"

          It was a while back, but wasn't most of the issue about the built in camera, and where people objected to being videoed (and very possibly recorded) without consent, by the glass-wearer.

          1. DS999 Silver badge

            Re: original Google-glass wearers = "glassholes"

            Yes that was the big issue a lot of people had. People wearing them would be going into restaurants, narrating to themselves presumably producing a video they would post to social media to tell everyone how cool their Google Glass was.

    2. Chet Mannly

      Re: Glassholes

      Armies no. Likely because there were enough bad reactions to people walking around with a headset filming everyone in sight and beaming data back to an advertising company for google to know it would be a bad idea to roll out.

    3. mpi

      Re: Glassholes

      > It always seemed a bit of an over-reaction

      Question, if someone across from you in the subway takes out his phone and starts filming you, how do you react?

      Now imagine that person doing that to everyone and everything he meets, all the time. In fact the person doing the filming may not even be aware that hes doing so.

      Now imagine that the device hes using, comes from a company that makes it's money by gathering as much data about people as possible.

      Geez, I wonder why people took issue with that ...

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Glassholes

        If your are constantly tracked by cameras on every street, every shopping centre and every bit of public transport. If every movement of your phone and car are recorded and logged by Palantir, do you storm the Home Office or just shrug and say 'at least it keeps us safe from terrorists' ?

        1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

          Re: Glassholes

          Not every country has quite the density of CCTV that the UK has. In fact, I don't believe any others do.

          And bad behavior by the government, or by private property owners, does not excuse bad behavior by individuals wandering about in public places.

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    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      So what? They were both annoying. People using Apple Vapid Pro in public are annoying too. What's your point?

  5. 45RPM Silver badge

    I’ve heard about glass holes but, rather like the supposed threat of being cancelled, I’ve never seen it myself.

    Other than once seeing someone (a colleague) wearing one of those Microsoft helmets (whose name escapes me), I haven’t seen a headset of any kind since the old Virtuality headset that I saw at a conference once, years ago.

    So, whilst I’m sure they’re out there, I’m not sure that they’re having enough impact that their users should earn such an epithet. Certainly not when there are actual fatalities being caused by people dicking around on their phones whilst driving.

    1. HuBo Silver badge
      Happy

      Those Miscrosoft helmets were quite fashionable, all the way back to Jean-Marc Côté's 1910 view of "En l'an 2000: A l'école [...]" (top-left image). ISTR MS using this image in an ad, in late 80's or early 90's Byte magazine or AI Expert. The (past's) future is now!

    2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      I don't see why the number of people using the device should have any effect on what we think of those who do. Quantity and quality are different attributes.

  6. claimed Silver badge

    Insult, you say?

    There is something around the lapse in the perception of reality that wearing a VR headset causes… a lapse in Vision. Some kind of Vision Pro lapse of awareness…

    I’m sure they’ve had their marketing department work hard in avoiding any easy ones but I have faith El Reg can get to the bottom of it

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What was the point of the PS at the end?

    Managed to find someone who hates an Apple product so you just had to share?

  8. DoctorNine

    An Honest Question

    Half my life or more is spent in front of a screen anyway. I can't imagine why anyone would want to take the small amount of time one gets to enjoy watching the scenery pass, on the drive to and from work, and put another screen on it. Why exactly would someone do that? For what reason or reward?

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: An Honest Question

      OK so assuming one was RIDING in a car/train/bus not behind the wheel, maybe they'd rather watch a movie than see the scenery. Not everyone lives in the mountains with breathtaking views, some people commute to work on highways lined with strip malls and gas stations.

      I mean most people on public transit have their head buried in their phones anyway, not sure why I should care if they have something strapped to their head. Heck it might even be good for you - a lot of doctors are saying that neck/upper spine problems result from that "stoop" people have hunched over their phones for long periods of time. Being able to have your head at a normal level using an AVP is probably better in that respect at least.

      Heck come to think of it, if I had an hour commute on a train each day I might consider $3500 worth it. Probably save that much in chiropractor bills over a few years lol

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: An Honest Question

        $3500 would buy a lot of books. To each his own, of course.

        (Personally, I wouldn't use a VR headset if I got it for free. In public or in private. I find VR profoundly unappealing.)

    2. Catkin Silver badge

      Re: An Honest Question

      I wouldn't use them roaming around but I was doing a job that involved a lot of travelling around the time Oculus was available on Samsung devices. Sitting in a waiting lounge, it was nice to escape into a virtual cinema. The biggest two annoyances were the lack of awareness and that, being run on my phone, I had to be meticulous about cleaning the screen before use because a dust particle would be enormous and clear. I wouldn't spend $3500 for a more polished version of this but under £1k, I'd be sorely tempted.

      Counterintuitively, I also found it quite good for relieving motion sickness on ships, though the vessel turning would require some manual resetting of the device as my chair in the "cinema" turned.

  9. Howard Sway Silver badge

    if only "Vision Pro" was easier to turn into an insulting portmanteau

    How about Visiowners? Those who try them out in a Tesla can be called Testees. Or you could also just downvote me for being puerile.

    1. 45RPM Silver badge

      Re: if only "Vision Pro" was easier to turn into an insulting portmanteau

      I suppose if they’re trying to make money with their purchase via clicks on social media then they might be referred to as Vision Prostitutes

      1. sebacoustic

        Re: if only "Vision Pro" was easier to turn into an insulting portmanteau

        You win 1 internet for the day for that: *Vision Pro*stitutes

    2. Paddy Fagan

      Re: if only "Vision Pro" was easier to turn into an insulting portmanteau

      iEyes - as an alternative? Sounds like a Lemur and I'd prefer to have something a bit more Lemming, but.....

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nah

    I’ll wait for Reality ver 2.0

  11. DS999 Silver badge

    Apple could address this

    It wouldn't be too difficult for it to determine if the wearer was driving (i.e. sees a steering wheel) and disable all apps and work in pass thru mode only. That would defeat the purpose of idiots wanting to wear it to check their email while they falsely believe their Tesla is able to self drive without their attention being required.

    1. Dave 126 Silver badge

      Re: Apple could address this

      IANAL

      Apple might be liable if they implemented such a feature and it failed (maybe the car has an unorthodox steering wheel). They might be on firmer legal ground if they just assert that it up to the user to use it responsibly.

      Also, maybe someone might want to use it at home sat behind the wheel of their home racing simulator.

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: Apple could address this

        Also, maybe someone might want to use it at home sat behind the wheel of their home racing simulator.

        It could tell a real car apart by the motion (once you move beyond GPS error bar distance that's not a home racing simulator)

        But point taken about the liability. Sadly in the US someone probably would sue Apple for implementing a safety feature that wasn't perfect and resulted in the death of a family member, instead of assigning 100% of the liability where it belongs, on the idiot behind the wheel.

        And I suppose it is really Tesla's problem to fix that people are able to get them to self drive without paying attention. They're trying to do via "are hands on the steering wheel" but you'd be able to do that while wearing an AVP or a blindfold for that matter. What they should have is a camera in the cabin that verifies your eyes are open and (with exceptions allowed for a few seconds here or there) looking at the road.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Apple could address this

          As of quite recently, they do. Personal knowledge has the 3 and the Y containing a cabin camera just above the rear view mirror.

          A recent software update has enabled this camera in a driver monitoring capacity and if it believes you're not paying attention it will start the "Apply force to steering wheel" prompt. If you don't react within a couple of seconds it will force disengage the AP. If you fail this prompt 5 times it will disable AP functionality for a week. According to the owner groups I'm part of they are quite displeased with this change...

          Tesla do claim the output of the cabin camera doesn't leave the vehicle, unlike the external cameras.

  12. ColinWeirTAS

    Pro-boners

    Surely...

  13. GenX

    Lotta haters here

    I get the issues with driving, but the article and comments just reek of jealousy. Live and let live. Why you gotta Karen on spatial tech now? If you can't afford it, just save up and enjoy watching those who can, pioneer use cases (besides driving).

    1. elaar

      Re: Lotta haters here

      "I get the issues with driving", then why can't you understand the difference between criticising people doing something stupid for 10secs of internet fame, and jealousy?

  14. Dave 126 Silver badge

    It's a bit unfair to judge an entire generation for the acts of a few idiots on social media.

    It's a bit like judging all the Reg writers for the often moronic output of their headline author.

    1. Korev Silver badge
      Thumb Down

      > It's a bit like judging all the Reg writers for the often moronic output of their headline author.

      But the headlines are (well were) one of the best things about coming here

  15. imanidiot Silver badge

    The vast majority of "Vision Pro" users currently on "social" media platforms are made by "influencers" basically just shouting "look at me, I've got a new expensive toy! Look at me! LOOK AT ME!!! WHY AREN'T YOU LOOKING AT ME!! LOOOKKK!!!".

  16. theOtherJT Silver badge

    it might be a pretty piece of kit...

    ...but it's still just a headset

    You think? Because everyone I've seen wearing one looks like they're getting ready to go snorkeling to me.

    1. Casca Silver badge

      Re: it might be a pretty piece of kit...

      Or go skiing

  17. RobThBay

    Eye strain?

    Wouldn't watching a screen that's so close to your eyes cause eye strain?

    Or have some effect on possibly becoming nearsighted?

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Fizzing Poo.

    You're welcome.

  19. MachDiamond Silver badge

    The idiot is strong in this one

    " "I pulled to the right most lane, turned on Autopilot, and put the headset on for the video," Lentini told us via email. "I wasn't pulled over, hence didn't receive any ticket." "

    Why does this brain surgeon think that he would have to be pulled over to be ticketed. It's commonplace, but if you get spotted doing something illegal, you aren't off the hook if you turn into a mall and park up. Even if you make it home and get inside before being tackled, there's no "get out of jail free" card for that.

  20. Steve Channell
    Joke

    Zaphod Beeblebrox mode?

    anyone who's watched (or listened to the original radio-4) Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, will know that Zaphod Beeblebrox had sun glasses that turned black when something frightening happened to him.

    The apple glassholes are unique in that they are not "augmented reality" in the conventional sense, but instead VR where the camera image is overlayed behind the VR images.. and consequently go black during in an accident. The other feature is that you don't "see" someone eyes, but an OLED display that projects an image taken from the inside of the glassholes, for that authentic second-head appearance.

    going to message the Douglas Adams estate, in case they fancy a few million quid for "prior art" patent infringement: Douglas would love that!

  21. the_cubicle_arsonist

    Put them in a locker.

    I don't condone bullying, but these glassholes deserve a beating, an atomic wedgy, a toilet water shampooing session (with their stupid glasses on) and a short stay in the nearest Locker Inn location. I see those videos of some of those virgin morons waking around, moving their arms, walking proud and tall pretending to be the way of the future. To make things worse, they all do it pretending that all this is normal. I just simply can't contain my contempt for them. wtf?

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