back to article OSIRIS-REx's stuck asteroid sample canister finally cracked open by NASA

After struggling for months, NASA has finally cracked open the canister storing a dirt sample scooped off the surface of an asteroid. Launched in September 2016, the spacecraft flew to its target, the asteroid Bennu, and spent a couple of years studying the cosmic rock. Scientists eventually found a perfect spot to sample …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The next few years are going to be an endless series of "scientists are surprised", as they find yet more evidence that soundly contradicts the accepted theory of how the solar system was formed. We're on the verge of a paradigm shift similar to the rejection of geocentrism, or the acceptance of relativity. It's going to be very interesting.

    We need to send more of these probes, with more instrumentation, and return more samples. Landing on titan or io should be a priority mission.

    1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

      The next few years are going to be an endless series of "scientists are surprised"

      That's why people become scientists. We're novelty junkies.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        I guess the downvoters didn't understand that this is what I was getting at. Either that, or they're irrationally angry at my choice of moons to visit. Titan is an obvious candidate because of its apparent geological and environmental processes, but Io also presents unique opportunities for study that I think a lot of people tend to overlook. Its dynamic nature makes it an insanely interesting place.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          More that this in no way contradicts any theories I've read about the origin of the solar system.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            You'd be surprised. There's a quiet, ongoing crisis in cosmology right now, in not a small way enhanced by the structure and composition of these visited asteroids, which was not anticipated in the least.

            The thing about a paradigm shift is that, while it's possible to anticipate one and even see it happening, it's nearly impossible for people operating in the old paradigm to understand or predict what the new paradigm will be.

            Interesting times.

            1. Jim Birch

              This sounds a little cultish. Take care.

            2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

              Do enlighten us - what conflicts with the previously understood "facts" of solar-system formation theories? Chemical / isotopic composition? Grain size / structure? Something else?

              My understanding is that the primordial makeup of the solar system is already pretty well known from studying meteorites, with it being fairly certain that if you cut one open and sample the inside, you get a good representation of what was there when it was a rock floating around space and before it got battered about and the surface heated up by entry into the Earth's atmosphere (somewhat counterintuitively, meteorites of any appreciable size that have just fallen are often very cold, because only the surface gets heated by atmospheric friction, and the middle remains at the temperature of deep space, which is only a couple of kelvin). Such rocks tend to be either chondritic (basically fused pebbles) or metallic (usually iron/nickel alloy with pretty crystallisation patterns) depending on where in the solar system they formed (things with a higher melting point closer to the centre of the protoplanetary disk) - the other ones that formed further out, that are largely icy tend not to get sampled because they come from the outer solar system and ice melts or shatters when it reaches the Earth; cometary bodies from the Oort Cloud are thus usually mostly icy rather than rocky or metallic.

              Anyway, it's a fair assumption that if a space rock hits the Earth, and it's not one that shows signs of having been blasted off the surface of another planet (such as some meteorites from the Martian surface), then its makeup is representative of the time it formed, which statistically is almost always going to be when the solar system as a whole was forming. Ricks sampled in space might give us more information, but essentially, it's going to be more detailed versions of the same information unless there's something shocking going on (which you allude to but don't specify).

    2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
      Pint

      ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS – EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE.

  2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    +/-

    astronomers predicted there was a chance it could hit Earth in 2029.

    That's been pushed back beyond the next 100 years.

    The very same astronomers could revise the figure downwards

    1. Richard 12 Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: +/-

      Nah, doesn't work like that.

      As you take more measurements the error bars get narrower overall. Once Earth is out of the error bars you know it won't hit - at that time.

      The error bars get wider as you predict further into the future, so "not in 2029" doesn't mean never...

      There's still plenty of big stuff out there that we haven't seen though.

  3. Winkypop Silver badge
    Coat

    Finally

    Someone found the 10mm

    1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

      Re: Finally

      Yeah! Why is it ALWAYS that one that goes missing?

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: Finally

        Because we've stopped using the 3/8th so much?

        The one with the metric socket set in the pocket -->

        1. Christoph

          Re: Finally

          They should have used percussive maintenance.

          1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
            Joke

            Re: Finally

            & some WD40 & maybe a bit of heat from a welding torch.

  4. Andy E
    Holmes

    Just wondering....

    I'd be interested to read the report on the stuck canister. What caused the issues preventing it from being opened?

    1. Anonymous IV

      Re: Just wondering....

      > I'd be interested to read the report on the stuck canister. What caused the issues preventing it from being opened?

      Probably the result of the cosmic glue which keeps the universe together...

      1. RockBurner

        Re: Just wondering....

        You mean duct tape?

    2. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

      Re: Just wondering....

      Just guessing here: It may have had something to do with the sequence of bolt untightening and the amount each was turned in each cycle around the lid.

      Often, starting on one side and unscrewing each fastener completely and then moving on to the one next to it can cause a lid to distort. The result being that the last few screws have more than the design tension on them and requiring more torque than the tool is designed to deliver. Sort of the reverse of tightening a cylinder head with a properly distributed pattern. And increasing torque in a few steps. To avoid warping it.

      Sometimes one has to break a bolt free with a fraction of a turn to un-seize it and then re-torque it to keep the cover flat. Once all the bolts are freed this way, backing them out in a pattern and in a few steps of untorquing is easier.

    3. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge
      Alert

      The Andromeda Strain

      No need to panic.

  5. EricB123 Silver badge

    Thanks again, guys

    The engineers at NASA never fail to amaze me at their resourcefulness. Thank God they aren't Boeing... Oh no, holy shit!

    1. Roj Blake Silver badge

      Re: Thanks again, guys

      On the other hand, the hatch would have popped off without any help at all had the cannister been made by Boeing.

      1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

        Re: Thanks again, guys

        On the other hand, the hatch would have popped off without any help at all had the cannister been made by Boeing.

        But that would have happened while it was still on the way back to Earth.

        1. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
          Joke

          Re: Thanks again, guys

          What do you mean on the way "Back"

    2. Eclectic Man Silver badge

      Re: Thanks again, guys

      Well, NASA has had its fair share of 'issues':

      https://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/genesis/recovery.cfm

      "When the Genesis Mission returned to Earth, the parachute did not deploy and the return capsule hit the ground at an estimated 300 kph. The crash landing caused the collector canister to break open and expose the collectors to the Earth environment. Many of the collectors were fragmented and contaminated with particulate debris and a molecular film."

  6. I am David Jones Silver badge

    A nice contrast to Apollo 13

    A trivial problem made hard through lack of on-board resources vs a very difficult problem solved by effectively infinite resources.

    Would have loved to have been on the sidelines watching the team that came up with the solution…

    1. Graham Dawson

      Re: A nice contrast to Apollo 13

      "Who hid the torx set again?!"

    2. Philo T Farnsworth Silver badge

      Re: A nice contrast to Apollo 13

      NASA finally took my advice.

      Just turn it over and bang it on the counter top a couple of times.

      It works for pickle jars.

  7. Mister Dubious
    Facepalm

    Too much El-Regolith

    That photograph looks like a top view of my clothes washer after a VERY bad day.

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