Uncle Sam wants to make it clear that America's elections are very, very safe As America gears up for a contentious presidential election this year, the Department of Justice has launched a campaign to convince the public that each and every qualified vote will be counted, and there won't be any interference or shenanigans to worry about. That means no Russian troll farms, Chinese deepfakes, or regular …
Well good news then, neither Biden or Trump are running the elections. Elections in the US are run by the states, the federal government has no role in conducting the elections or counting the votes other than enforcing federal laws against election fraud (which they are making clear they will, in case partisans in some states want to mess with procedures assuming that the governor/AG of that state will ignore their crimes or even pardon them for them)
It strikes me that the complexities of having dozens of states, each with their own arcane set of election rulers and procedures is NOT a good thing. Much of the disinformation about election fraud seen in social media is based on misinterpretations/misrepresentations of these rules and procedures. There are also issues such as the possibility of people who own property in multiple states to vote in those states. Interestingly, the people who do most of the wailing about voter fraud do not seem to be concerned about that.
Conversely, there are real issues that hardly any one is talking about. Consider voter suppression - for example, make it difficult for people who frequently move, such as students. There are others, such as gerrymandering, the electoral college and the allocation of tow senators to each state with no consideration of their population.
They have to do this because MAGA asshats are the kind of people who will pretend they found gigantic rats in their coke bottles and bring dead flies to a restaurant just so they can guzzle 80% of the soup then throw the fly in and angrily scream about how they've been wronged.
This absolutely sounds like desperation, but it's only because they're dealing with the worst people in the world. They ARE desperate, dealing with these scumbags.
So some Trump voters claimed that there was a wrangling within the vote. Analysis was done and they were proved wrong..
I see that as democracy at work, where everyone has their say and everyone else is free to say/prove the contrary.
I don't see that as a problem, I see it as a huge advantage for all of us who live within such a system.
Although not every vote will count. Remember to live in a small republican wholesome rural state so that your electoral college votes are worth more than the huddle masses yearning to be free in large metropolitan cities (where they are probably all communists anyway)
If it was "some voters", i.e. a small number of average citizens, it would be "democracy at work". Unfortunately it's the former president and liar-in-chief who continues to publicly declare there was fraud long after it was proved otherwise, and is claiming immunity from criminal prosecution for attempting to overthrow the election results by force.
Well, wonder no more... US citizens (yes, I am one) are incredibly stupid.
In my estimation, authoritarians inside the US are responsible for much of the unease about the democratic process in the US.
There are a significant number of US citizens who are ignorant, and "ignorance is bliss".
History is rhyming (per Samuel Clements, as I recall). The same crap that took hold 80 or 90 years ago is taking hold again.
Peace out.
I don't see US citizens as stupid, other countries vote "for" candidates, while in the US you vote "against" candidates by placing your vote towards anyone that you don't think is stupid. Trunp lost the last election because he'd upset a few Republicans who had voted for him in the previous election. All the arguing we see in the courts these days pretty much proves that the American election system is completely trustworthy even if you don't like the results.
You are, unfortunately, correct; it's voting against the worst candidate by voting for the least-worst one. As a voter, I don't get to vote for a good candidate! Even write-in votes are largely bogus; in my state, for a write-in vote for president to be counted, the candidate must have turned in a petition of 500 voters at least 90 days before the election. If 99% of the state did a write-in for someone who hadn't gotten a petition in on time, then whoever the 1% voted for would win.
"Trustworthy" and "good/functional" are two very different things.
Like with most hysteria, the furriner’s are getting blamed… and the real threat is provocateurs internally- gerrymandering and obfuscating process. Postal voting or drop-off elimination for example.
As in the UK the recent photo/id voting nonsense did more to disenfranchise voters that any perception of voter fraud fixed - there was none, and historically none.
Yes, the actual mechanics of voting in the US are very very safe. The only attempted election fraud ever uncovered in the last election was MAGA asshats, and the ultimate MAGA asshat (the Angry Toddler) trying to get the State of Georgia to magically create more votes for him. Neither of those worked.
But then once you actually count the votes it's all up in the air because the MAGA asshats will deny anything that doesn't fit with their reality (as they do daily). As far as the angry toddlers are doing, it doesn't matter what the mechanisms are, it's just whether the results match them angrily stamping their feet.
And don't forget to redraw the boundaries so that every voter for the evil opponent is in one multi-dimensional-hyper-fractal-Moebius district while you include a prison in each of your dozens of districts (prison populations count to the electoral vote weighting, but the prisoners can't vote)
It is not foreign governments I am worried about. It is our own government. The system exists to serve the system itself.
They don't need a campaign to reassure voters about Russia, China, or the Civil Rights Division. They need to reassure voters about Uncle Sam's integrity.
undesirables' are too thick to procure a gov't id.
No you just make an NRA membership or a Gold AMEX the only accepted forms of voter ID.
Kind of like how a government a lot closer to home made a pensioners bus pass or a driving licence acceptable but not a student ID and were 'surprised' when the voters skewed older/richer
Did you forget the /sarc tag?
This is the internet - very little can be hidden now. If you were serious you would have put links to these court cases and discovery you mention. But you probably can't and that's why you posted as an anonymous coward.
The Trump Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ydDn69nZEE
This is the internet - very little can be hidden now. So why did 'the internet' feel the need to hide any references to the Hunter Biden Laptop, just before the 2020 election? Why was questioning the results of the 2020 election a mortal offence on so many platforms?
Rudy, or anyone else with the files from 'the laptop from hell' could have put them somewhere and pointed us to them but they have nothing, just 'a lot of theories', no real evidence. If there was we would know about it. The 'internet' (Facebook, or was it Twitter?) hid the Hunter laptop references for 24 hours - and still Trump lost. He would have lost in 2016 if it hadn't been for his election interference re. 'crooked' Hilary's email problem. If you turn Trump's words around 180 degrees that's a more accurate view. A good proportion of politicians are not so good (for whatever reason), but Trump is not a politician, he's just a snake oil salesman BSer. I wonder if he's able to hypnotise people, there has to be some reason his supporters can't see through the BS he spouts.
I love that footage of Trump and Epstein at some club or other checking out the talent. In my mind there's no doubt Trump is coked up or something.
"'the laptop from hell'"
The Biden laptop is a non-issue, a time wasting distraction, and always has been, simply because of the lack of a clear chain of custody. Its contents are not admissible as evidence in any court in the US. Won't stop the anti-American folks in the MAGA[0] faction from babbling incessantly about it, though.
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1) None of the devices are accessible from the internet - we know this is true from 2016 and 2020 for live poll results feeds
2) They have confirmed NONE of the devices are still using default admin credentials - Over 100 internet connected devices still had default admin credentials during 2020
3) They have removed all direct database access - this was identified as an issue in both 2016 and 2020
4) They do not have ANY 3rd party access into ANY US voting machines. This was identified in 2016 and 2020.
Unless they confirm that NONE of these 4 are now true, then the US elections are not only insecure, they are already compromised.
(5) At least some auditing of paper ballots ("do the paper ballots match what the machines told us?") occurs. Maybe pick a few boxes at random after the election, possibly allowing the political parties to pick some as well.
No objections to your 1 through 4, of course. But while I consider myself a skilled programmer, I wouldn't trust my own code without running basic sanity checks of this sort. Don't tell anyone, but even my code sometimes has bugs in it. (Not often, of course.)
I should note that while I thought of (5) long ago, I've since read similar proposals elsewhere, and I gather that at least some US states are considering such measures. The only downside I could see to it would be that you couldn't demagogue election fraud quite as easily.
... that nobody has mentioned the op-ed piece that Ken Block published in USA Today on January 2nd of this year.
"Who is Ken Block?" you might ask ... Ken's the owner of Simpatico Software Systems (look it up), which was hired by Donald Trump on the day after to prove widespread fraud in the 2020 elections.
In a nutshell, they found the exact opposite, and communicated this fact to the Trump Whitehouse. (Must have been a fun phone call. "Despite paying my company millions of dollars to show otherwise, I'm sorry to have to report that you're a loser, Mr. Trump".)
Trump and his sycophants and quislings have maintained the lie anyway. It's what they do.
Why on Earth would the Democrats "rig" the election in favo(u)r of their own Presidential candidate ... and yet not bother rigging the Senatorial and Congressional elections while they were at it? Seems kinda pointless to go through all that trouble, only to end up in a stalemate.
Fortunately the real Republicans are learning to work around the anti-American MAGA[0] asshat clowns, and things are starting to move forward again ... if slowly.
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