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Microsoft has admitted what the rest of the tech world has long suspected: Windows Mixed Reality has no future at the IT giant, and the platform will be yanked from a future release of the operating system. Sitting at the top of the latest list of deprecated features in Windows is the Windows Mixed Reality (WMR), including the …

  1. ldo

    Apple Any Better?

    Are Apple still prohibiting its guinea pigs unpaid beta testers early-access users/reviewers from posting pictures of themselves using the product? Somehow that does not seem to indicate a great deal of confidence in its success ...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Apple Any Better?

      Sounds like the usual overpriced Crapple tech to me. Meanwhile Meta Quest 3 are selling like hot cakes for 20% of the price.

      1. ThomH

        Re: Apple Any Better?

        The Quest 3 isn't selling like hot cakes; it isn't meeting projections and is being outsold nearly 3:1 by the much-cheaper Quest 2. That might in part help to explain why that segment of Meta has seen a revenue drop of 27% year-on-year.

    2. ThomH

      Re: Apple Any Better?

      I think it more likely indicates a lack of confidence in its current form (which would be unsurprising given that mixed reality remains desperately in search of an application) or — much more likely — a lack of confidence in developers to promote things the same way that Apple would.

      1. ldo

        Re: Apple Any Better?

        But they’re already promising to ship something sometime soon, next year.

        Maybe they should have worked out what form it should take before preannouncing it to the world ...

  2. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
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    Waiting for the AR killer app...

    ... and we keep on waiting, and in the meantime getting on with our lives.

    When the missus can slip some AR goggles on, like a pair of glasses, and start re-arranging the furniture (again) or re-arranging, nay, re-building the whole house, then you'll have something!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Waiting for the AR killer app...

      The AR killer app is a couple of lines of text on my glasses, with low BLE power drain.

      It briefly looked like Bosch were there, but their HUD unit is now a fully color graphics thingy that is now years late, and will probably be too expensive for something I will stand on, and too power hungry.

      It is telling that the core feature of the modern smartphone is the message aka the telegraph, A short bit of text was the killer app of the 19th century, and it's still the killer app of today.

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: Waiting for the AR killer app...

        While I'd consider that less ugh than pretty much every other AR/MR application I've ever heard of, it's still ugh.

        I first tried out AR and an early version of what would eventually be MR at SIGGRAPH in Boston in 1989. Didn't like it then; don't like it any better now.

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "As the needs of our customers evolve"

    Translation: As customers continue to ignore them.

  4. pip25
    Unhappy

    Too bad

    Mixed reality seemed much more likely to have actual real-world applications and use cases compared to VR; I'm hardly a fan of Microsoft, but hoped they bet on the right approach. Alas, it seems that is not to be. :(

    1. Helcat

      Re: Too bad

      Well, there's one use for AR that I'd love to see.

      I'm a volunteer responder - cover events such as horse racing and football, and more. Something we've talked about while on shift is if we could get tools such as AR to show us a map of the venue, possibly with routing information so we can get to a reported incident quickly, and possibly avoid 'bad' areas (fights for example). That same system could also help feed back to our control so we've online help should the case be something outside of our scope of practice: Early escalation.

      Then consider the Fire service: If they had AR to help map safe routes through a burning structure.

      Yes, very much like some video games, but in reality: Helping get people to where they're needed quickly, and to give those people access to better advice and support when on scene.

      Downside: Needs to be damn well secured: Don't want ambulance chasers and their ilk tapping in, and there is the question of GDPR: But we had ideas for that, too.

      End result: We don't have anything to work with to build on at the moment, but it would certainly be useful if we did.

  5. deevee

    Will Zuckerberg give up on his pet VR money pit project now?

    Like Elon and Twitter, these guys just don't get it...

    Worse still they are betting the company on their delusional ideas...

    1. ThomH

      It feels unlikely; given his level of control over Facebook, giving up on VR would require his contrition or at least humility. The Quests aren't actually doing badly in terms of sales, they just have a retention problem and clearly aren't going to recoup the money Meta has spent to date — reportedly already $36bn (!) in October 2022.

    2. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

      I'd really rather they didn't. For all the disadvantages of being owned by Meta and the Oculus brand/accounts disappearing :

      You don't have to use your Facebook account, a Meta one can be used (which can involve zero social media interaction)

      The interface is excellent.

      The hardware is decent too.

      The price is reasonable.

      The only things wrong with Meta's VR offerings were the roadmap of social media connection (this appears to be disappearing), the fact it is effectively Windows only and utterly closed source (with the exception of the Oculus Go), and that Meta are the owner. It could be much worse.

  6. Yorick Hunt Silver badge
    Trollface

    Does this mean...

    ... They'll finally scrap the Xbox bloatware from Windows?

    I'm not holding my breath :-(

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: Does this mean...

      Or at least make it possible to remove that crap without having to run a bunch of obscure Powershell commands?

      Microsoft's decision that some "features" are removed one way, and others another way, and still others a third way may not be high on their list of sins, but it's damned annoying.

  7. karlkarl Silver badge

    > This Windows VR didn't even make it to the ER

    Where I work, they kept sodding trying to bring it into the ER. I kept rejecting it for all our projects because the hardware was expensive, unreliable to source and criminally locked down. It was basically Windows RT with a different form-factor.

    Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves for adding more to landfill sites across the world.

  8. BinkyTheMagicPaperclip Silver badge

    Pity, because the hardware was alright

    I bought a Lenovo Explorer a number of years ago on Black Friday for the bargain price of 150 quid. Decent visuals, controllers are OK too.

    The WMR Portal, its interaction with display drivers (throws a fit every time a new driver release is installed), and Steam VR integration are a different matter. Whilst native WMR apps are smooth, Windows Store is horrid, and there's virtually zero Windows Store VR apps. Steam VR does work, but it took some time to fix various niggles, and patch games such as No Man's Sky. Nowadays it should be fine : I tried Skyrim VR and a few other games a while ago and it Just Worked.

    Oculus/Meta's interface is an order of magnitude easier to use, and looking around it basically seems a Meta Quest 3 is the best option unless you're absolutely desperate to run a Vive under Linux.

    Haven't played with much AR - too many platforms and games already, but the VR killer app for me is Google Earth. Not everywhere is mapped, but when it works well, it's absolutely stunning.

    SuperHOT VR, and Lone Echo (Oculus only, without hacks) are pretty decent, but Google Earth is the stand out item. I also really digged being able to render 3D mathematical shapes, pick them up, and manipulate them virtually but I'm not enough of a mathematician to make best advantage of that.

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