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Sir Richard Branson is leaving his space tourism company, Virgin Galactic, to stand or fall on its own two feet after declaring that his business empire will not be tipping any more cash into the project. Branson told the Financial Times: "We don't have the deepest pockets after COVID, and Virgin Galactic has got $1 billion, …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Trollface

    So, Branson is folding

    Apparently, erecting massive, uh, rockets, yeah rockets, doesn't do it for Branson anymore.

    Typical billionnaire. He got what he wanted, now he's no longer interested.

    1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Re: So, Branson is folding

      I do wonder what the original business plan looked like that would make it profitable in X years.

      1. R Soul Silver badge

        Re: So, Branson is folding

        The business plan was simple and followed the same old and predictable Beardie routine. Do a few PR stunts. Get the all too gullible media to hype the latest scam. Sell out to some gullible mug(s) before the shit hits the fan. Make off with all the loot to his tax haven in the Caribbean. Rinse and repeat ad finitum.

      2. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

        Re: old business plan

        Wildly optimistic budgets and timelines for aerospace projects. (Carrier aircraft and a space plane.)

        Getting New Mexico tax payers to build and maintain a spaceport.

        Not accounting for how quickly rocket engine vibration cracked the composite materials available at the time.

        Expecting a rapid cadence incompatible with the maintenance requirements of a hybrid rocket.

        I am sure with their hard earned experience and large cash reserves they will make a better vehicle this time. I do not see how even an excellent vehicle could pay back much of that cash given the competition that will be ready by the time they are.

      3. LybsterRoy Silver badge

        Re: So, Branson is folding

        Well, using the same calendar as EM X (formerly known as Twitter) years would be about the same timing as the gap between Sheffield floods, or maybe an uncertain number of blue moons.

  2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Been there, done that. Did he get a T-shirt?

  3. wolfetone Silver badge

    Oh no!

    Anyway, moving on.

  4. R Soul Silver badge

    the not so royal we

    Branson told the Financial Times: "We don't have the deepest pockets"

    What's this "we" shit? Why can't Beardie simply tell the truth, ie him and his companies aren't putting any more money in?

    Beardie is always using the pronoun we to refer to himself to give the impression it was someone else (and not) him who has quit or failed. "We've taken the stellar success of Vigin Music/Cola/Brides/Trains/Media/etc as far as we can, so now we're bailing out".

    1. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

      Re: the not so royal we

      Maybe because his companies aren't "his" and he has shareholders to please?

      1. Dave@Home

        Re: the not so royal we

        A lot of the companies with Virgin in the name are actually totally separate and are paying a license fee. There's only a very small number which are actually owned by him/his holding group.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: the not so royal we

      "We" = Virgin Group Limited

      1. R Soul Silver badge

        Re: the not so royal we

        Virgin Group Limited is a private company. Companies House says it has just 1 shareholder with significant control - Virgin Holdings Ltd. Which has exactly 1 person with significant control: Beardie.

        So in this case "we" == Beardie.

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    3. gecho

      Re: the not so royal we

      Billionaires like to perpetuate the myth that they are paying for these things themselves when it is really investors doing the heavy lifting. SpaceX isn't funded by Musk but billions and billions from investors. Throw in a small fraction of the money for a large fraction of the ownership. It is a trickier dance for publicly traded companies as it is easier for investors to pull the rug out from beneath you.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I hate to say it ...... but ....

    "Beardie is always using the pronoun we to refer to himself to give the impression it was someone else (and not) him who has quit or failed. "We've taken the stellar success of Vigin Music/Cola/Brides/Trains/Media/etc as far as we can, so now we're bailing out"."

    The art of getting rich and staying rich is to *know* when to bail out *before* the losses hit !!!

    Branson is no different to any other rich serial investor and the whole financial world works on the same basis .... stay while the *profits* are made and bail before the *losses* hit !!!

    The trading of Stocks/Shares/Financial instruments of all shapes & sizes is based on exactly the same priniciple ..... and there are plenty of 'Mug punters' who think they are 'wise' to off-load the goods on before you make a loss !!!

    :)

  6. Martin Summers

    Surely the answer is just to put the prices up. If you're paying 450k for a ticket, surely another 100k isn't going to trouble you. Otherwise why are you paying to go into space in the first place? People who have that kind of money tend to have more of it lying around. They then have a choice of whether to go or not, as no doubt there will be plenty of other rich people who will take their place.

    1. hittitezombie

      You might as well spend a bit more and book a flight on one of Space Karen's equipment, and actually get to orbit.

      1. Grogan Silver badge

        an extra sneer and jeer for "Space Karen". I quite like that heheh

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "Surely the answer is just to put the prices up."

      Many of the early passengers have been booked for years and have paid at least some or all of the price up front. You can't change the prices for them. And IIRC, there's quite a list of those people to get through before actual current revenue starts properly.

      1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

        "Many of the early passengers have been booked for years and have paid at least some or all of the price up front. You can't change the prices for them. "

        Sure you can. A lot of companies have been doing that recently.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Like the airlines?

      That’ll be $10 million to check your bags and $20 million for a Virgin Spaceburger-in-a-Tube, should you want one.

  7. hittitezombie

    No profit in the future

    Flying to space for a fun ride isn't something that's profitable.

    They need to figure out how they can actually use this for something meaningful. So far this has been the equivalent of barnstorming flights of the very early aviation and the interest won't last long, especially when Space Karen offers actual flights to space station or the orbit.

    The beardie and his company need to find their niche first.

  8. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

    Commend

    I think we should commend Branson for investing in space tourism. And the company has shown that it's feasible to take private individuals into space (although not above the Karman line) and that a space tourism sector could potentially evolve.

    However, having said that, huge investment is needed and the returns are too meager to build a business on. I therefore believe most space tourism companies will close their doors in the coming years. Only orbital tourism for the ultra-wealthy will continue to flourish.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Commend

      "Only orbital tourism for the ultra-wealthy will continue to flourish."

      100 at a time on Starship?

  9. Adair Silver badge

    Self-indulgent ...

    techno-orgasm comes down to earth.

  10. fpx
    Go

    Credit where Credit is Due

    Give Bransom some credit for getting this venture off the ground. He has no obligation to fund this business indefinitely.

    There's no ticket price for going to orbit yet, and once there is, it will be at least 100x as expensive. There's a significant slice of population who can afford a $500k joyride, but not a $50M one.

    I'm not part of either slice, and even though Branson says that he doesn't have the deepest pockets anymore, I'd still be happy to trade him for mine.

  11. Arthur the cat Silver badge

    Branson's wallet

    Isn't that a disease of Shatner's Bassoon?

  12. IGotOut Silver badge

    And....

    how much will they have to pay to keep using the Virgin branding?

    One reason the government, quite rightly to him to fuck off when he put out the begging bowl for Virgin airlines, which is also 49% owned by Delta

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