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There's no sugarcoating this news: The Hershey Company has disclosed cyber crooks gobbled up 2,214 people's financial information following a phishing campaign that netted the chocolate maker's data. According to a security notification filed with the Maine Attorney General's office, the phishing emails landed in employees' …

  1. Martin-73 Silver badge
    Trollface

    To be fair, chocolate lovers wouldn't be on Hershey's database...

    1. cornetman Silver badge

      When we originally came to Canada 16 years ago, it was just before Christmas and we got stocked up in the supermarket with chocs and stuff (including this stuff called "root beer" which I quickly realised was not the Canadian name for ginger beer and turned out to be Germoline in liquid form :( )

      One of the things we got to try were "Hershey's Kisses" Honestly, after trying one, I thought that they had been tampered with, it was so disgusting, tasting like vomit. We ended up throwing them out.

      Never again have I bought anything from Hershey's.

      1. sweh

        I moved to NYC 22 years ago, and wandering around I found some Cadbury's Fruit and Nut. Since I was a little home sick I bought it. And after tasting a few chunks was almost sick. Checking the label I saw "Made under license by Hershey".

        That put me off Hershey chocolate!

        1. JimboSmith

          If you can get it try their Extra Dark with Cranberries, Blueberries and Almonds which is so much better and far less vomit inducing/tasting than their usual stuff which I don’t like either.

          https://www.amazon.com/Hersheys-Chocolate-Cranberries-Blueberries-3-52-Ounce/dp/B000IXSLMI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pb_opt?ie=UTF8

          1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

            Honestly, "it doesn't taste of vomit like their other stuff" sounds less like a compelling selling point(!) and more like expectations lowered so disastrously they're at the point of Stockholm syndrome.

            Most likely the only reason that the "Extra Dark" doesn't taste of vomit is because it doesn't contain milk in the first place (which is the source of the problem after Hershey's have subjected it to their butyric-acid-producing "long life" process).

            Why not just buy chocolate from people that make decent chocolate? I'm sure that it's out there if one is really that desperate!

      2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        Pint

        Canadian name for ginger beer and turned out to be Germoline in liquid form

        I am so stealing that description (Been here 14 years myself).

      3. blackcat Silver badge

        "Germoline in liquid form"

        Ah, not just me who thinks that :) But I still LOVE root beer.

        1. John H Woods

          Germolene

          It's the same ester - oil of wintergreen (methyl salicylate)

          1. cornetman Silver badge

            Re: Germolene

            Yeah, I find the smell of wintergreen to be very "cloying" and makes me dislike Germolene and root beer in equal measure.

            1. blackcat Silver badge

              Re: Germolene

              TCP antiseptic is worse! I think it smells like burnt circuit boards.

              1. Martin-73 Silver badge

                Re: Germolene

                Even worse is the resin they use to bond the extra grip surface to roads at crossings in the UK. Ever thought 'i can smell burning electronics, oh crap' on a warm day while stopped at lights? If so, that's your culprit

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Why Americans (and Canadians, apparently) enjoy vomit-flavoured "chocolate"

        > Honestly, after trying ["Hershey's Kisses"], I thought that they had been tampered with, it was so disgusting, tasting like vomit.

        It's probably not a coincidence that you thought that. From this article:

        > Another key difference between US and UK chocolate is that much US chocolate uses milk that has undergone lipolysis, a process that partially breaks down the fatty acids in milk. This is another historical anomaly in the evolution of chocolate production. In the early 20th century, the process of partially souring milk through lipolysis was used to stabilize milk chocolate, as the resulting milk chocolate could be stored for longer periods of time before its taste changed for the worse. [..] The advantage of the process is that further breakdown of fats in milk is slowed, and subsequent fermentation is reduced. The "milk" taste also lasts longer, before either fading or turning into bad-tasting compounds. The down-side is that the process releases butyric acid, one of the fatty acids present in milk. Butyric acid is the fat component responsible for the smell of parmesan cheese and baby vomit.

        Here's another article that suggests Americans thought Hershey's was crap, and only got used to sick-flavoured chocolate during WW1 when European brands were unavailable. (Googling American chocolate butyric will give you even more.)

        All this will be on top of the fact that American standards for "chocolate" are far lower than even those in the UK. Years ago I tried an imported Reese's novelty "Christmas Tree" that was coated with alleged chocolate that tasted more like sweet brown wax. (At least *that* had the decency to taste of nothing rather than baby sick.)

        Now that Reese's are officially sold on the UK market, I've noticed that their peanut butter cups sold here- which for some reason I've had no desire to waste my time trying- apparently don't improve the "chocolate" to meet UK regulations. No, they simply changed its description to "chocolate flavour coating".

        1. blackcat Silver badge

          Re: Why Americans (and Canadians, apparently) enjoy vomit-flavoured "chocolate"

          "we make our chocolate taste like barf so when it goes off a bit it still tastes like barf" Great selling point.

          I'll stick to tootsie rolls.

        2. cornetman Silver badge

          Re: Why Americans (and Canadians, apparently) enjoy vomit-flavoured "chocolate"

          > "chocolate flavour coating".

          Shocking.

          Completely coincidentally, here McVities choc biscuits are now labelled as "milk chocolate flavour".

          Could anyone verify that this is *not* the case also in the UK?

          1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

            Re: Why Americans (and Canadians, apparently) enjoy vomit-flavoured "chocolate"

            I don't buy them personally, but apparently they're still "Wheatmeal Biscuits Covered in Milk Chocolate". Though I notice that the reviews state that they're now skimping on the chocolate- along with a general decrease in quality- and the packs have been shrinkflationed down in size.

      5. NoneSuch Silver badge

        When my family visits from the UK, they always bring a box of Fruit and Nut bars. In return, they get complimentary room and board for their vacation. A fair exchange.

    2. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge

      The words "Hershey" and "chocolate" should not be used in a single sentence, unless accompanied by some kind of negation. I get the feeling Hershey uses homeopathic amounts of cocoa products in all their recipes (word used without prejudice).

      1. Jedit Silver badge
        Headmaster

        "Hershey uses homeopathic amounts of cocoa"

        Pretty much. And the vomit taste comes from the butyric acid found in the slightly spoiled milk used in the recipe. (This is actually done intentionally as it's a preservative, rather than just them using inferior quality ingredients. They reserve the inferior quality for everything else, which is why Hershey not only tastes sour but has the mouthfeel of cocoa-flavoured wax.)

    3. Bebu
      Windows

      To be fair, chocolate lovers wouldn't be on Hershey's database...

      Unless they were keeping a "hit list" but then it would be more like 2 billion rather than 2 thousand names.

      Based on the type of data exposed and number of records it must be an employee (current and former?) database.

  2. Rikki Tikki

    Blame the oompa loompas

    I'll bet they feel right Charlies for giving the hackers a golden ticket

  3. Ol'Peculier

    Remember when the comedian Dave Gorman did the thing where he did Google searches that returned zero results? Here's another one: "Hershey" "chocolate lovers".

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nestle?

    "Stealing Kit Kat maker's data?"

    If Hershey made them the way they make their own branded chocolate, I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

    Oh well, just to be safe, I'll have to import a pack of Kvikk Lunsj when I visit Norway next year....

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: Nestle?

      Even the KitKats in Blighty are no longer the same as they were when Rowntree were making them

      1. cookieMonster Silver badge
        Stop

        Re: Nestle?

        Didn’t one of the scumbags even try to have the legal definition of chocolate changed, so that they could add even cheaper and shittier ingredients in order to make more profit??

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Standards are slippin now El Reg focuses on readers outside Europe

    A few years ago this article would have consistently mentioned Hershey "chocolate" instead of Hershey chocolate.

    I had colleagues who would come back with Hershey Kissses whenever they had been across the pond and I was always surprised they got them through customs. Perhaps they declared them as dog food?

    1. Bebu
      Windows

      Re: Standards are slippin now El Reg focuses on readers outside Europe

      《I had colleagues who would come back with Hershey Kissses whenever they had been across the pond and I was always surprised they got them through customs. Perhaps they declared them as dog food?》

      Wrong end of the dog?

      See Musk/Twitter autoresponder emoji.

      Growing up in the antipodean realm of Cadbury, Hershey bar were what the GIs gave the liberated civilians (mostly pretty young women :) in WW2 movies and later TV series "Combat." As a kid I assumed Hershey bars were the Ambrosia of chocolate. I didn't get to try one for nearly forty years but in the meantime discovered european dark chocolate so the disappointment was even greater - definitely Hershey《chocolate》 These days its Lindt 95% or 99% or nothing. We get it here in the supermarkets at about the same price as the Cadbury or Nestle 《》 offerings. Oddly the Lindt is often manufactured in Canada or the US. I believe Canada has/had a chocolate maker Ganong (same name as my undergrad physiology text) so there must still be some taste buds north of the 49th parallel.

      Never new what Root beer was. Featured in US TV shows like Gidget. Didn't know what Germoline was either. So root beer is Preparation H in liquid form. Learnt a lot today. :) Will avoid all three.

      1. TheVogon

        Re: Standards are slippin now El Reg focuses on readers outside Europe

        My dentist gives you pink stuff in a cup to wash your mouth out with that tastes exactly like McDonalds Root Beer. Fortunately you are meant to spit it out.

    2. Arthur the cat Silver badge

      Re: Standards are slippin now El Reg focuses on readers outside Europe

      I had colleagues who would come back with Hershey Kisses whenever they had been across the pond

      Why in the name of ${DEITY} did they do that? Once I can understand, let's see what these are like, but repeatedly? Did they hate everybody they worked with, or did they smoke 80 Gitanes a day and had no taste buds left?

  6. captain veg Silver badge

    dafuq

    Who hands over PII to a lowest common denominator chocolate manufacturer?

    Really, I despair.

    -A.

    1. sten2012

      Re: dafuq

      Is this employee data or what?

      Why health, for example? If it's customers:

      A) why would anyone choose to supply it?

      B) under what premise was it collected?

      C)why would they possibly want to collect it? They know the answer already, and collecting it is just removing any deniability for "they knowingly sold unhealthy food" lawsuits in future.

      1. heyrick Silver badge

        Re: dafuq

        That's exactly what I came to post. Surely this was employee data, otherwise what the hell is a chocolate maker doing asking for that sort of information...?

    2. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

      Re: dafuq

      I don't think many people would give so much personal data to Hershey's unless it was for a paycheck.

      I'll maybe start a flame war here by saying that Hershey's is still better than that corrosive Ghirardelli chocolate that all the San Francisco tourists buy. If I had to get a chocolate fix at a small town gas station it would be M&Ms. Guittard Extra Dark Chips wins my vote for baking and making chocolate milk.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: dafuq

        Never try chocolate from these people, or anything else will just taste, well, like Hershey's.

        Thankfully that's hard as they don't sell retail, as an end user you'd have to physically go there to buy things from the factory shop.

        1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

          Re: dafuq

          Ooo, wow, I'm drooling just from the pictures.

        2. Paul Crawford Silver badge

          Re: dafuq

          One of the things the Swiss do so well, along with clocks and numbered bank accounts. Definitely the best tasting of those!

        3. heyrick Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: dafuq

          Hmmm, no gloves, no masks, no hairnets... (spot who works in food production ;) )

          But, sod that, gimme!!!!

        4. Arthur the cat Silver badge

          Re: dafuq

          as an end user you'd have to physically go there to buy things from the factory shop

          They do have an online shop, but sadly "Delivery only in Switzerland & Principality of Liechtenstein".

          Sigh.

      2. cookieMonster Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: dafuq

        To be honest, if i had to get a chocolate fix in the US, I’d by a bag of grapes, same amount of real chocolate but taste better

      3. John Sager

        Re: dafuq

        US M&Ms do taste a bit better than Hershey's, but there is still that lingering off taste that you don't get in EU or UK M&Ms.

  7. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    there is "no evidence that any information was acquired or misused."

    Who would trust any bland assurances from an outfit that's been phished?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Or one which passes off vomit-flavoured brown wax as "chocolate", for that matter.

  8. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

    Chocolate lovers and Hershey's customer is a Venn with zero overlap...

    1. Bebu
      Holmes

      Only a poisoner...

      "Chocolate lovers and Hershey's customer is a Venn with zero overlap..."

      some budding Borgia might be both since a customer need not be the unfortunate consumer.

  9. TimMaher Silver badge
    Pint

    Belgian.

    Best in the world.

    Just sayin’.

    Fabulous beer too.

  10. Alan Bourke

    Hershey's?

    Wouldn't use it for dog treats. Terrible shite.

    1. druck Silver badge

      Re: Hershey's?

      Chocolate is poisonous to dogs, and I suspect Hersheys is too.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Chocolate lover and Hershey's don't go in the same sentence. Though the excellent Hersheypark puts to shame an awful lot of amusement parks.

  12. well meaning but ultimately self defeating

    Hershey’s tastes like warm vomit

    Hershey’s chocolate has a distinctive taste due to the presence of butyric acid in the chocolate, which is the same chemical compound that can give vomit its characteristic rancid taste and smell. Butyric acid can occur naturally in chocolate as it comes from the milk fats during a process called lipolysis. The fatty acids in the milk decompose, resulting in a rancid taste similar to an obese ballerina’s nether regions after a particularly strenuous scent from swan lake followed by a marathon and a week without showering.

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