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There was good news for Microsoft and bad news for Musk in the 2023 Online Nation report by the UK's data regulator. It seems Brits are falling out of love with X – formerly Twitter. The wide-ranging report regarding internet use in the UK found that while Alphabet and Meta-owned sites remained the most visited, X had suffered …

  1. FIA Silver badge

    So... X missed the spot?

    1. Snake Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Well played

    2. JoeCool Bronze badge

      Imagine ...

      the most deeply uncool person in the world's buying up an "in" property in order to stay in pop culture relevance, and then all of the young uns that are the actual lifeblood of the platform exercising their right to free association.

      Wait, that actually happened. Imagining not required.

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: Imagine ...

        He didn't buy it stay relevant, he bought it so he could personally determine what's relevant. Or so he hoped.

        1. JoeCool Bronze badge

          Re: Imagine ...

          Technically, he bought it because he couldn't escape the legally valid commercial contract that he signed.

          But there's no doubt he's motivated by ego.

    3. Dave K

      Hardly a surprise. Buy a company with one of the most iconic and recognisable brands in the world and rename it to have the one of the least iconic brands of all time. Then sit back and watch people slowly drift away. Of course the damage he's done to the platform doesn't help either.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wot!

    Elon can do no wrong. He tells no lies (all just like his mentor Donald 45)

    These figures must be fake news.

    It was rigged.

    Stop the steal

    Oh sorry, this is the UK we are talking about. We aren't quite as far down the rabbit hole of no return like those on the other side of the pond.

    Please, if you read this and still use the cesspit that Twittler has become, stop right now. It adds nothing to society.

    Let him lose most of the few pennies he put into the deal to buy the pit of sewage.

    1. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

      Re: Wot!

      "Please, if you read this and still use the cesspit that Twittler has become, stop right now. It adds nothing to society."

      Become? It was always a roiling tsunami of bullshit. But it does have its uses - without it, so-called journalists would have to do some actual work instead of endlessly scrolling Twitter in search of a new Who Said What On Twitter story. And, of course, now his Muskiness is in charge, Twitter itself is the journalistic gift that keeps on giving.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Wot!

        The old Twitter cooperated to remove hatespeech and antidemocracy. Elon delights in ignoring these demands

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Wot!

          > The old Twitter cooperated to remove hatespeech and antidemocracy. Elon delights in ignoring these demands

          The Twitter Files, Part 3: The Removal of Donald Trump

          1. sabroni Silver badge
            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: The Twitter files.

              The "Simply Wrong About Government Interference At Twitter" is both true and false. You need to look at the details. It is similar to big Billy Clinton not having sex with his intern. The govt people are not (that) stupid and are are not going to leave a trail of 1A violations behind them.

              “government officials do not violate the First Amendment when they request that a private intermediary not carry a third party’s speech so long as the officials do not threaten adverse consequences if the intermediary refuses to comply.”

              "The emails were phrased in advisory terms"

              So basically the govt didn't tell twitter to "remove Trump or else" which is OK in law and doesn't violate the 1A. They just ask nicely and maybe twitter will tweak their TOS to that being orange with bad hair is now against the platform rules.

              But when you boil it down, government officials DID ask various platforms not to carry certain third parties speech, they just didn't threaten adverse consequences.

              1. MrDamage Silver badge

                Re: The Twitter files.

                Funny how you go to convoluted steps to paint the Democrats as authoritarians, when your guy is literally on record as saying "take away their guns, and worry about due process later"

                Gaslight

                Obstruct

                Project

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: The Twitter files.

                  How does that paint Democrats as anything (other than Clinton being a sex fiend)? The post you replied to was about the actions of law enforcement agencies, primarily during the Trump presidency.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: The Twitter files.

                    Both administrations have 'requested' that content be 'moderated' and as you correctly say so have various high up branches of law enforcement.

                    The only reason I mentioned 'remove trump' is cos it was the highest profile case AND it was done while The Grand Cheeto was still president. Can't blame Biden for that one.

                    As ever someone just has to take a comment as partisan....

              2. Jaybus

                Re: The Twitter files.

                "But when you boil it down, government officials DID ask various platforms not to carry certain third parties speech, they just didn't threaten adverse consequences."

                Edit: Append ", or else they made the threat of adverse consequences clear offline so as to maintain plausible deniability."

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              @Re: The Twitter files.

              @sabroni: “The Twitter files.If you're talking bollocks, best to post AC.

              @techdir: “We’ve debunked many of Matt’s errors over the past few months

              I see no debunking, just lots of ad hominem !

              1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

                Re: @The Twitter files.

                I see no debunking

                I'm sure that's true. For those of us who can think, though...

          2. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge
            Facepalm

            Re: Wot!

            If there is any doubt that the commenters on El Reg are now ridiculous, look how many downvotes the post above has.

            Is this the audience El Reg started chasing when they went left-wing in 2017?

            1. My-Handle

              Re: Wot!

              So... your choice was to write a comment (making you a commenter), to commenters, about how commenters in the specific forum that you are commenting in are ridiculous. And you expect that to go down well?

              If you really believe that the post is being downvoted in error, you could do any number of things, from asking why commenters were downvoting, to offering reasonable supportive arguments of the original post. But you decided to go with an ad-hominem response to the entirety of the post's audience.

            2. Jamie Jones Silver badge

              Re: Wot!

              You must be a parody account!

              I thought "everything I hate must be left-wing" was reserved to braindead MAGA-chumps.

              But if you want evidence of ridiculousness, look no further than the comments to this very article. (and the previous one that mentioned Musk, and probably most of them)

              Every post - however reasonable - that dares say something that may seem critical of Musk - is downvoted at least once. I'm not even talking about the insulting ones or even anything debatable. Anyone that dares not worship his Muskiness must be bad.. Just like with your orange god Trump. Why do you believe the widely debunked twitter files when the evidence is clear to see (and Sabroni even posted it)?

              Very insecure and paranoid you chaps are - and the grifters know it. They exploit your cowardliness and fear and paranoia to whip up hatred and support.

              Tell me, what's the latest lefty plot to ruin your very "English-Patriot" way of life?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Wot!

      Please, if you read this and still use the cesspit that Twittler has become, stop right now

      The previous time I discussed this with someone, "anti-semitism" was brought up.

      Enough.

      Compare any normal twitter feed with mainstream news and tell me where the anti-semitism lives. On twitter I see countless stories of the Oct 7 victims. In mainstream media, at least in Norway, I see countless stories about poor Hamas being bombed back to the stone age. On twitter I see stories about Palestinians being warned in advance of bombs targeting Hamas. They refuse to abandon their duties as human shields and... On mainstream media all I see is pictures of the same "civilians" covered with blood.

      Any anti-semitism on twitter pales in comparison to the media that made these claims.

      I bet they are now changing their claims about what the problem was.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Wot!

        I saw a wonderful comment, should have saved it, that sums up the current situation quite well.

        The antisemitism coming from 'the right' is mostly fringe nut jobs who have little or no power and relatively little reach.

        However what we are seeing right now is from people in positions of power and authority and these people identify as politically left.

        It is (currently) not the far right running professors off campus for supporting Israel or assaulting Jewish people in the street or posting about how they wish Hamas had done more.

        And from what we've seen of some rather high profile cases of blatant anti-Islamic rhetoric, that is also (currently) coming from the political left.

        Imagine the rightful outrage if a right leaning professor had told their students they could get extra credit for going to an anti-Israel protest?

        Maybe we are finally seeing these people's true colours?

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          Re: Wot!

          Hmmm. When you are sat off to the far right, everything else looks like the left, eh? I hate to point it out to you, but Israel's government is far-right, and Hamas is far-right. It's not a left vs right thing at all, and, quite frankly, you'd be well advised to not get involved, because there is no "winning argument" to be had when people are killing each other due to opposing ideologies.

          As for the "antisemitism coming from the right" being from fringe nut-jobs and having little reach, the problem is exactly this: The hate speech on Twitter "X" isn't necessarily from the right or from the left (although, by definition, most hate speech actually is right-wing, we have to acknowledge that there are those on the far left who are equally frothing at the gills), but the guy who owns the platform has been promoting the right-wing hate speech stuff. This amplifies two different biases: right wing political ideology (the rich should own everything, the market is god, etc.), and hate speech (antisemitism, islamophobia, white supremacism, homophobia, sexism, and all the other isms that go with it). The problem is Musk - by promoting the sort of things he does promote, he lends them legitimacy. It;s the problem of boundary creep - if you can make one thing more acceptable, you can push the boundaries of acceptability, and, without invoking Godwin's Law, history does teach us where that leads.

          In summary, though, we shouldn't be getting hung up on whether hate speech is coming from the left or right, and from that infer that the right, or the left, is good, and the other bad. That's simplistic nonsense, and plays directly into the hands of populists with their "divide and conquer" mentality, and culture war agendas. We should scroll back a bit and realise that bad things are bad, and good things are good, and when it comes down to it, hate speech that ultimately puts people's lives at risk is bad, as is one person having so much money and power that they can control what people see and think.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Wot!

            "and Hamas is far-right"

            Trying to work out if you are high. The mental gymnastics of the rest of your post desperately trying to claim that somehow this is entirely the fault of one side, that side being the one you dislike, and that your side is squeaky clean. The party applauds your efforts Comrade Muskrat.

            You gonna tell me this guy is far right?

            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67492512

            1. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge
              Trollface

              Re: Wot!

              And Stalin, Mao, Xi, and Hitler were all far-right too, don't you know?

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Wot!

                This does reenforce the age old trope about how the left call everything they dislike as far right.

                The far right have occupied UC Berkeley

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/uc-berkeley-academic-offered-her-students-extra-credit-for-going-to-pro-palestinian-protests-and-lobbying-congress-about-gaza/ar-AA1iPRFn

                1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                  Re: Wot!

                  But, but, but "National Socialism" had "socialist" in it donchaknow, so they must have been socialists, right? Sorry, left?

                  This is actually how badly some people's thought processes work. They also probably believe North Korea is a democracy, because it has the word "Democratic" in "The Democratic people's Republic of North Korea" (and that it's a republic, too, and not essentially a hereditary monarchy).

                  As for Hamas being left-wing, I don't think that's a very good descriptor for a group of people who seized power in Gaza through violent means, and whose ideology involves wiping out all the Jews in Israel. I don't see much socialism in this course of behaviour, but perhaps I am wrong, and someone can point me in the direction of all the socialist policies they have been enacting in Gaza? Perhaps they have a really good social security network I've not heard about? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

                  Maybe it's possible here, that the simpleton commenters are confusing Hamas with the citizenry of Gaza, and equate support for innocent civilians (largely from the left of the political spectrum, because those on the right tend to care only about themselves) for support for Hamas terrorists? If so, then I'm sadly disappointed by exactly how hard-of-thinking some people are.

                  1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                    Re: Wot!

                    *erratum: "The Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (or DPRK), no "North" in there. My bad.

                  2. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: Wot!

                    'Hamas being left-wing, I don't think that's a very good descriptor for a group of people who seized power in Gaza through violent means,'

                    You do know that the people voted for Hamas in elections and Hamas WON. That is how and why they are in power.

                    'and whose ideology involves wiping out all the Jews in Israel'

                    That also seems to be the ideology of many of their supporters.

                    'confusing Hamas with the citizenry of Gaza'

                    You act as if Hamas is some entity that is entirely external to Gaza and just turned up. The people carrying AK47s and shooting at people on the 7th WERE the citizens of Gaza.

                    Probably take a walk outside your echo chamber every once in a while. It might help you.

                    1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

                      Re: Wot!

                      There are over half a million people living in Gaza, they don't all have AK47s, you absolute melt.

                      Just like the average Israeli citizen isn't a right-wing religious settler that is actively forcing people from their land, but the Israeli government is led by people very much of this mindset.

                      Just like the average UK citizen isn't hell-bent on deporting desperate refugees to a developing country i the Horn of Africa as a "deterrent" to fleeing for your life, despite our government being obsessed with this nonsense policy.

                      But then, you probably are one of those people (hiding behind anonymity) who agrees with this policy, and also thinks that everyone else thinks exactly like you and agrees with it too. hell, you probably think that we need to get rid of our human rights because you are too stupid to learn from history. Rather than bleating about "echo chambers" and other clichéd shibboleths, try actually using your brain, and learn how to critically evaluate sources of information, rather than just soaking up any bullshit your favourite populist happens to be spouting. Physician, heal thyself?

                      1. Anonymous Coward
                        Anonymous Coward

                        Re: Wot!

                        'clichéd shibboleths'

                        Says the person who spouts such intellectual nuggets such as 'Hamas are far right'.

                        'rather than just soaking up any bullshit your favourite populist happens to be spouting'

                        And this never happens on the political left? Pretty much every fiery but peaceful protest is based on people soaking up the latest populist crap. Populism isn't a uniquely one sided thing.

                        Having worked with members of the IDF in the past I'm well aware what they are like and I'm quite surprised that they've not wiped Gaza from the face of the earth.

                      2. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

                        Re: Wot!

                        "Just like the average Israeli citizen isn't a right-wing religious settler that is actively forcing people from their land, but the Israeli government is led by people very much of this mindset"

                        The Apartheid regime imposed by the ZSTG is supported by Zionists, who are Anti-Palestinian Racists largely from The Ukraine and the former Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Jews have opposed Zionism since its inception since its a staggeringly racist idea which tramples on many basic tenants of Judaism. The Zionist Settler Colonizers who came to murder Palestinians and steal their land are fully paid up racists devoted to crimes against humanity.

                        There are 2.6 Million people in Gaza. 47% of which are children. There are Human Shields in 1948 occupied Palestine. Which is why all the major Military establishments in Tel Aviv are thickly blanketed with Civilian Housing.

                        HaKirya, or The Kirya (Hebrew: הַקִּרְיָה, lit. The Campus), is an area in central Tel Aviv, consisting of an urban military base north of Kaplan Street, and a civilian area south of it.

                        HaKirya contains the Tel Aviv District's government center and the major Israel Defense Forces (IDF) base Camp Rabin (Hebrew: מַחֲנֶה רַבִּין, Mahaneh Rabin), named for Yitzhak Rabin. It was one of the first IDF bases and has served as the IDF's headquarters since its founding in 1948. Being located in a dense urban environment, the base serves mainly command, administrative, communications, and support functions.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaKirya

              2. John H Woods Silver badge

                Re: Wot!

                Hitler was far Right. The rest of your list is spot on but including Hitler in it suggests you are not a serious person.

                1. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge

                  Re: Wot!

                  Hitler was a genocidal nationalist centrist.

                  It is unserious to expect people to pretend that Hitler is "far right".

                  1. John H Woods Silver badge

                    Re: Wot!

                    Well I've long had my suspicions about "centrists"

                  2. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

                    Re: Wot!

                    "Far Right" - see - the Nazi crimes against humanity - and the ideological justification for murdering millions of Polish Jews, Russian Jews, German Jews, Polish Catholics, Polish Communites, German Gays, and all anybody else the scum could lay their hands on.

              3. MrDamage Silver badge

                Re: Wot!

                They were.

                Just because they called themselves communist, does not mean they were on the left.

                The same way you consider yourself to be intelligent, but Mssrs Dunning and Krueger would disagree.

              4. Jamie Jones Silver badge

                Re: Wot!

                Hitler was far right you absolute clown.

                He was no more "socialist" than the democratic party of North Korea is democratic.

                I'd suggest you look up the true meanings and the origins of the word "fascist", but you'd just dismiss it as a lefty plot.

                1. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge
                  Facepalm

                  Re: Wot!

                  Where did I say that he was a socialist you silly sausage?

                  Your evidence for him being "far right" is that he wasn't a particularly likeable chap. That's pretty silly, isn't it.

                  1. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

                    Re: Wot!

                    No. He's far right because of the Nazi crimes against humanity for which he provided the ideological support for in his far-right book. Not the fuckknuckle statement " that he wasn't a particularly likeable chap."

                    Wikipedia has the essential points,

                    Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæt-/ NA(H)T-siz-əm; also Naziism /-si.ɪzəm/),[1] the common name in English for National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, German: [natsi̯oˈnaːlzotsi̯aˌlɪsmʊs] ⓘ), is the far-right totalitarian political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in Nazi Germany.[2][3][4] During Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Europe, it was frequently referred to as Hitlerism (German: Hitlerfaschismus). The later related term "neo-Nazism" is applied to other far-right groups with similar ideas which formed after the Second World War.

                    Nazism is a form of fascism,[5][6][7][8] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates a dictatorship,[4] fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, anti-Slavism,[9] scientific racism, white supremacy, Nordicism, social Darwinism and the use of eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism originated in pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist Völkisch movement which had been a prominent aspect of German ultranationalism since the late 19th century. Nazism was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany's defeat in World War I, from which came the party's underlying "cult of violence".[10] It subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of a racial hierarchy,[11] identifying ethnic Germans as part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.[12] Nazism sought to overcome social divisions and create a homogeneous German society based on racial purity which represented a people's community (Volksgemeinschaft).

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

                2. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: Wot!

                  Mussolini was the fascist. And he WAS socialist. The roots of Italian fascism come from French socialism.

                  Everything within the party, nothing outside the party.

              5. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Wot!

                vaultboyholdup.gif

                So...Hitler, definitely a nazi, and last I checked Nazism was a far-right national socialist ideology and Adolf was 100% a dictator who cleansed his party of socialist elements before trying to cleanse everyone else. Definitely not leftist.

            2. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

              Re: Wot!

              It's entirely the fault of the Zionist State Terrorist group which has a record of terrorist atrocities dating back to 1900. The resistance to occupation is a response to occupation.

              The occupation disappears, there will be no resistance movements. This particular one dates from 1990s - so 90 years post ZSTG - 50 years post Nakba - 25 years post Naksa.

          2. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

            Re: Wot!

            The Occupied people resisting the occupier are not equally to blame for being occupied.

            The Eastern European perpetrators are solely responsible for the occupation of Western Asia, the denial of the rights of self-determination to the Palestinian People.

            The Palestinians have the legal right to resist apartheid. The Genocide convention makes all parties obligated to prevent Genocide.

            The attempts to both sides the Occupation of Palestine by an Eastern European Terrorist group is dishonest.

            People deserve equal rights. The People of Palestine are the sole legitimate participants in this resistance to Occupation, Apartheid, and Genocide. The perpetrators of this crimes against humanity are Terrorists - using violence against civilians in service of furthering their criminal activities.

            The Zionist movement originated in Europe, it's a colonial movement dispossessing the People of Palestine.

            Various UN officials and investigative mechanisms have reaffirmed that Israel's permanent occupation of Palestinian territory has no legal validity and has resulted in de facto annexation, which may amount to a war crime.
            https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/

      2. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge

        Re: Wot!

        MediaMatters, the left-wing antisemitic organisation that made up this nonsense is being investigated for fraud by two American states, as well as sued by Twitter for defamation when they lied about this nonsense.

        But it worked - it gave people who want to believe the left wing narrative an excuse to believe it.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: Wot!

          Nurse! He's out of his bed again!

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: Wot!

            Good to know that he can touch-type, though.

            I mean, I don't see how he could read the key-caps through all that foam.

        2. MrDamage Silver badge

          Re: Wot!

          Yeah, yeah, let Elon sue MM for "defamation". Elon will have to open up Twitter to discovery, which will show MM has truth as their defence.

          As for being investigated by two states, I can only see that Elon's buddies in Texas have started one. Or do you honestly think it's coincidental that only Elon's mates are investigating?

        3. Jamie Jones Silver badge

          Re: Wot!

          They didn't lie. Some say they went unfairly out of their way to trigger the results, but the results were valid, and they wouldn't have occurred if the problem didn't exist.

          But more importantly, they highlighted anti-Semitic and pro Nazi posts... In what alternative universe does that make them anti-Semitic? Or is "everything I don't agree with is antisemitic, and I love Musk, so even criticism of anti-Antisemitism on his platform anti-Semitic" your new rule to replace the "everything i don't agree with is left wing?"

          As for the two states, the attorney general for Texas referred to Media Matters as "radical anti-free-speech" in his statement: (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1726767436618191177)

          Your argument would be a lot better if there was actually anyone serious supporting your ridiculous campaigns.

          1. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge

            Re: Wot!

            Creating contrived situations that no other user experienced in real life and then pretending that it happened naturally is lying.

            "As for the two states, the attorney general for Texas referred to Media Matters as "radical anti-free-speech" in his statement: (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1726767436618191177)"

            There's no better description. It's literally their reason for being. They want Twitter to go back to shutting down any discussion that is inconvenient to their favoured causes. They are so opposed to free speech that they are willing to commit fraud in order to do so.

        4. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: Wot!

          A study finds that TikTok is the most antisemitic platform by far, MediaMatters ignores it and Disney carries on advertising.

          It's almost as if this wasn't about antisemitism at all.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Wot!

            I'm shocked! Truly shocked!

            Hmm.. maybe cos TikTok is loved by the political left, has a huge userbase of kids and isn't run by a so-called RWNJ.

            Wasn't it on TikTok where kids were encouraged to asphyxiate themselves and share a video of them doing it?

          2. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

            Re: Wot!

            The study which you don't link to doesn't say that. The well-educated audience is well acquainted with the Nazi crimes against Humanity committed by European racist who first dehumanized their victims.

            To put it bluntly, we see you for what you are. An advocate for Zionism. A younger generation correctly identifies the subjugation of Western Asian Palestinians by Eastern European Zionists, as being a crime against humanity.

            The Zionist PR attempts to have some old guy download some nonsense off the internet as present it as "credible evidence", then retract. The Hasbara is simply not credible https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/need-comic-relief-watch-israels-pr-stunt-collapse

            Where is the City-Beneath-A-City promised by the Terrorist bombing the Hospitals of Gaza - not a (halal) sausage. Just an ever growing bag of Guns (METAL) behind an MRI machine (HUGE MAGNET)

            The people are pro-Palestinian because they are pro justice. Pro Palestine, because they are pro-Judaism, and therefore anti-Zionist.

            There is no widespread Jew Hatred problem - but people utterly despise the Zionist cowards who are murdering the unarmed while demanding victim status. The young Jewish people getting arrested, are anti-Zionist - Pro Palestine, Pro Judaism, Pro Justice. The Jewish block leads every Palestine Solidarity March.

            The young Jewish heros are showing that despite racist relatives, they will not allow their religious identity to be hijacked to support atrocities against the Palestinian people.

      3. MrDamage Silver badge

        Re: Wot!

        Waah! Waah!

        How about you learn who consists of being semites, before you accuse people of being anti-semite.

        Hint: Palestinians are semites.White skinned Jews of eastern European descent are not.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Wot!

          'White skinned Jews of eastern European descent are not.'

          Isn't that one of the antisemitic tropes that groups have claimed was being shared on twitter?

        2. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

          Re: Wot!

          That's not quite right. Semites are speakers of a Semitic language (as first language) - Arabic/Hebrew/Aramaic - So White Eastern European Jews who speak Hebrew (as first language) are also Semitic peoples

          It's true that Arabic speakers form the largest group of Semitic peoples. Defacto Zionism as an anti-Jewish and anti-Arab ideological basis for the crimes against humanity committed by ZST, is an antisemitic belief system.

    3. ChoHag Silver badge

      Re: Wot!

      > It adds nothing to society.

      A mirror.

    4. Inventor of the Marmite Laser Silver badge

      Re: Wot!

      "the cesspit that Twitter has become"

      Wasn't it always thus?

      1. aerogems Silver badge

        Re: Wot!

        I think they mean relatively speaking. It was always a shithole, but now it's a shithole overrun with white nationalists, insurrectionists, fascists, nazis, rage fluffers, tinfoil hat brigaders, and assorted cockwombles. Oh, and Twitler too.

      2. Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells Silver badge

        Re: Wot!

        It was. But antisemites are now disappointed that "from the river to the sea" has been banned from Twitter by Musk. Therefore, after some mental gymnastics, Twitter is far right.

        1. GNU SedGawk Bronze badge

          Re: Wot!

          Given you are on record as saying the Nazi's are not "Far Right" and you regularly post comments in support of the Apartheid regime perpetrated by the Zionist State Terror group. Maybe you should seek some political reeducation.

          The ideological convergence between the Zionists and the Nazi's has been pointed out regularly but it's rare to find so naked an exponent of the point. - You are explicitly denying the Nazi crimes against humanity are 'Far Right', for reasons you've not felt fit to expound.

          Seek some help. All people deserve equal rights. The Nazi's were/are Far Right.

    5. katrinab Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Wot!

      I've noticed that some former Musk fanbois are no longer fanbois after he messed up Twitter.

      Just some, obviously others still most definitely are.

      1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

        Re: Wot!

        I'm assuming the down-vote you had accumulated at the time of this reply comes from someone who either disagrees that Twitler has messed up their platform-of-choice for rage-posting, or someone whose head is so far up Musk's posterior digestive opening that they don't perceive the possibility that they may be a "fanboi" at all, or possibly, someone who is in deep denial that they ever were in thrall to such a repellent human being.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

    Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

      Only because of what he's smoking.

    2. Julian 8 Silver badge

      Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

      bet they are all bots

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

        The place is infested with bots.

        Not a day goes by that I don't get at least two, usually three, followers featuring a scantily clad attractive woman who's profile links to some cam site. They'll be following thousands each, have few or zero followers and have made no posts. Obvious porn bot is obvious.

        The smarter ones are using AI to produce some Lorem Ipsum posts so they *seem* human at a casual glance.

    3. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

      And we should give that claim exactly as much credence as the claim that Teslas will be fully autonomous in 2016. And 2017. And 2018. And 2019. And would be able to act as an autonomous taxi providing revenue of over $100K a year in 2020. And so on.

      The only public figure who has a higher density of lies per sentence is Trump.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

        "Hold my beer" - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

        1. Jedit Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

          Hell, Johnson's not even drinking beer.

        2. katrinab Silver badge
          Windows

          Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

          Pretty sure it is something a bit stronger and more expensive than beer?

    4. aerogems Silver badge

      Re: Xitter monthly users reach new high in 2023 says Elon.

      And they're very close to breaking even and profitability! Reminds me, you happen to be in the market for any bridges? I have a few in stock. Got an unbelievable deal on them, so I can pass all those savings on to you!

  4. captain veg Silver badge

    world wide web

    Any chance of a link to the report itself?

    -A.

  5. MrAptronym

    AI numbers are vague

    The AI numbers seem really vague. I know a lot of people (myself included) who played with ChatGPT when it came out, it was a bit of an online fad. Are people using those services continuously though? I have no idea what rate people are actually making these services a part of their daily lives.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: AI numbers are vague

      Yes, they are busy stuffing social media and forums with extremely divisive posts vaguely disguised as facts, news and information.

    2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      Re: AI numbers are vague

      My wife occasionally uses it to create suggested prose for blog posts, for example openings and conclusions, which then has to be fact-checked and heavily edited for style, but it is useful in sometimes getting past writers' block. I'd say it's more of a crutch for creativity, in this context, than a replacement for it. The actual content it produces is heavily unreliable, and it "hallucinates" facts on a regular basis. The thing is, though, that the fact checking this requires often spurs the research to unearth the actual facts, so it saves me the time and effort of being the one who she bounces ideas off.

    3. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: AI numbers are vague

      I know people who use image-generating GAI services (DALL⸳E and so on) for joke images during work chats and such. Presumably, if they answered the question honestly, they'd say they "use GAI". I suspect there are a lot of users in that boat: occasionally use the things for irrelevancies, but not for anything real.

      Personally, I've never bothered. I'm not impressed with the results I've seen; and I think these are competitive intellectual tools (ones that discourage rather than encourage thinking), and I'm not interested in paying that price. I'd much rather exercise my brain.

  6. JoeCool Bronze badge

    4 minutes you're not getting back

    "X increased its time from six to 10 minutes."

    All spent navigating the login pop up ?

  7. BartyFartsLast

    Interesting

    Wonder what those numbers are as percentage of userbase, that'd be a far more telling metric .

  8. Winkypop Silver badge

    Hey Elon

    Suffer in ya jocks!

  9. MrGreen

    The Data Source

    OFCOM > UKOM > Ipsos Iris > BBC

    The BBC?

    This report just lost all credibility.

    1. Hubert Cumberdale

      Re: The Data Source

      You just lost all credibility.

      1. PostHaste

        Re: The Data Source

        Your mum just lost all credibility.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Three in ten UK internet users aged 16 or over said they had used a generative AI tool, while four in five online teenagers and 40 percent of online 7 to 12-year-olds have used the services."

    Presumably for completing essays which is arguably the only thing ChatGPT is good at.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Presumably for completing essays which is arguably the only thing ChatGPT is good at.

      > Presumably for completing essays which is arguably the only thing ChatGPT is good at.

      You can have fun in triggering its gate-keeper filter. Already our monitors of acceptable opinion are at work. “Don't you see that the whole aim of ChatGPT is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.

    2. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

      Presumably for completing essays which is arguably the only thing ChatGPT is good at.

      It's a pretty poor argument, though, because although it produces readable prose, it hallucinates facts all over the place, and due to the way that it essentially a big pattern matching and generation engine, the patterns it produces are often nearly-true; that is, things that sound plausible but have as much truth as something made up by "that guy in the pub".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "it hallucinates facts all over the place, and due to the way that it essentially a big pattern matching and generation engine, the patterns it produces are often nearly-true"

        So...essentially it spits out what it thinks to be true based on the knowledge it possesses? Isn't that how we as humans function?

        Sounds like we need to have larger groups of LLMs that were trained on different datasets to debate and derive facts.

        1. Elongated Muskrat Silver badge

          It's how human blaggers operate.

          I'll give an example. My wife was writing a blog post about an element of Irish folklore known as the Dullaghan, which is a variation of a "headless horseman" myth,with some fairly specific elements to it. She used ChatGPT to help come up with some facts about the Dullaghan, to help elaborate what she had written. These followed general folkloric themes, and sounded plausible, but when she dug further, they actually contradicted the documented folklore. These sounded superficially as if they could be correct, but were not. It looks as if the "AI" had taken broader themes from folklore (a lot of myths follow similar themes and there are a number of common elements that crop up in a number of places) and used the patterns behind these to hallucinate "alternative facts".

          Sadly, I can't remember the exact things that it came up with that were wrong, but I do remember they were very wrong.

          Another good example is the one in the US where some lawyers used ChatGPT to come up with citations of previous cases that supported their case. Unfortunately for them, when they presented these to the judge, they turned out to not exist, and they got a stern telling off and a hefty fine.

          Reported right here in El Reg

          1. arctic_haze

            ChatGPT is like most students. When pressed for details, it will make up stuff.

  11. low_resolution_foxxes

    What 'messenger' service are we referring to? Facebook messenger, or does Microsoft MSN Messenger still exist?

  12. arctic_haze

    Bing?

    I need to google it up.

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