Tesla Cybertruck no-resale clause vanishes faster than a Model S in Ludicrous Mode Tesla's threats to sue Cybertruck buyers who resell their vehicles appear to be nothing but hot air, with the language removed from the Musk-owned automaker's terms and conditions just days after it appeared. As we reported on Monday, Tesla's Motor Vehicle Order Agreement terms and conditions [PDF] were updated to add a …
Because it has the brand "Tesla" on it, and for a subset of humanity, that alone is enough. They're like football fans - put the right logo on anything and they'll buy it.
Worked example 1:
Normal corporate branded bottle opener: Free
Tesla branded bottle opener sold by the official tesla shop: $50
Worked example 2:
Normal dog poop: Worthless
Tesla branded dog poop, sold by the official Tesla shop: $$$
"To me, they are very bland blobs with 4-wheels."
When I were a lad they used to sell blocks of bass wood for whittling, pre-printed with a side, top and front view of the printed object. The concept was that you would remove the wood outside the lines and eventually wind up with a fish, or a bunny, or a gnome, or whathaveyou. Some of the more expensive versions had the bulk of the material removed with a bandsaw, just to get you on your way.
The cybertruck looks like a pickup version of one of those pre-bandsawed blanks. It's unfinished, has no soul, and is boring to look at.
Note that I'm not I'm not pooh-poohing whittling ... far from it. I still have a chess set I made in the 1960s ... and I still hand carve all my wooden spoons & etc. It's a good, handy skill for any kid to learn. Recommended.
Not that today's kids would be allowed to do something as dangerous as learning to use sharp knives ...
"Not that today's kids would be allowed to do something as dangerous as learning to use sharp knives ... "
They do if you live in the US of A - my kids both whittled in scouts from the age of about 7, in between also doing welding, leather branding and, of course, shooting with all manner of guns.....
That subset is a lot smaller than it was a couple years ago though. The biggest fans of Tesla - as far as actually owning the cars - tend to be mostly liberal. He's totally alienated those people, and the people he has now endeared himself to mostly don't believe global warming is a thing and have little desire to own an EV.
I don't know about that, as where I am there don't appear to be any Tesla drivers.
However, I have a theory about why the drivers of certain types of car are always the biggest assholes on the road. They were Beemer drivers, then all of a sudden they were Audi drivers. And the change occurred at around the same time that Audis took over from BMWs as the high end company car of choice. So you have a bunch of officer-level corporate types - who are naturally predisposed to be assholes to begin with - and they're driving a generally powerful car that 1) they're not overly familiar with because they don't drive it all the time and 2) they don't personally own or have to pay the repairs for. These are all factors in making someone an inconsiderate and poor driver; they don't care about anyone else, they don't care about their car, and they don't know how to drive it properly anyway. If a company were to adopt Teslas as their executive fleet car, they'd no doubt be assholes for the same reasons.
I suspect there's some truth to this. In general, people who don't care about other motorists or their own cars will be poor, or at least discourteous, drivers; and those behaviors likely also encourage buying cars as toys or status symbols.
I do have to admit though that around these parts, while I see a Tesla or two on most trips into town, I haven't had any issues with their drivers. Far more annoying are the visitors from some of our larger states attempting to maneuver their enormous king-cab pickup trucks and maxi-sized SUVs around our old, narrow, twisting roads.
EVERYTHING had huge panel gaps when I was 6 - it was the 1970s. That was just how cars were built back then.
And if there was 2-tone paint, you just had to open the door to see the overspray and where the paint thickness was different at the tape lines.
Nobody but Tesla builds them like they used to.
Thanks, that has just helped my brain. Everytime I look at the Cybertruck I keep thinking it reminds me of something, now I know I was thinking of Captain Scarlett. If you are involved in a crash with a Cybertruck keep a look out for 2 circles moving across the ground and listen out for a disembodied voice.
If the paperwork says "Purchase Agreement", then yes. Not arguing the "in" status of anything Tesla, but if it's a purchase, this language is likely(and hopefully) illegal. A bit surprising it made it past the lawyers to publicly published. Rather bad publicity for Tesla, to me, especially in an environment where they have more competition than ever, early-adopters are mostly satisfied they have theirs, and consumers aren't buying all the available EVs so their sitting on lots and getting discounted.
But the pessimist in me thought maybe it was removed because big Tesla fans with lots of money wanting to make more demanded it be removed so they could buy/sell almost instantly at a profit.
"It's a supply and demand issue. This is going to be a tough vehicle to make [and] this is just them putting some guardrails in place,"
Forgive my ignorance, it's been decades since I took economics classes, but I could swear that Musk and friends usually tell us that the market should be free to sort things out on its own, free from pesky external regulations.
That's assuming the ultimate aim is to simply produce a large volume of trucks and make a healthy profit doing so (as it is for the competition). If however your goal is to, say, get the market to pay for a substantial chunk of the R&D of your Mars buggies, then this strategy maybe makes a bit more sense.
That's what he said.
But however much of a shitshow the Cybertruck is, it's not as much as the Roadster will be... if they ever launch it seeing they'll only have to change the laws of physics to be able to release the car as described by Musk in 2017.
(My new favourite YouTube channel...)
"That's because the GT3 Touring is gorgeous."
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me, the GT3 is just another boring take on the 356 ... Porsche should get off its collective backside and do something new for a change. I mean, c'mon, it's been 75 years! Do something new, for a change.
"Tesla truck, not so."
There I wholeheartedly agree. Have a beer :-)
I think prospective buyers are being seduced by Musk's door wedge not because of its looks, but because of all the macho crap that surrounds it - the pantomime of "can't break the windows" (whoops), the "almost bullet proof" claims, the fact that in a solitary test an arrow bounced off it, that's its bigger than the already enormous F150, and it's claimed mix of near off road capabilities and 0-60 in 2.9s. This is the ultimate car for people with short, muscular necks and sloping foreheads.
"0-60 in 2.9s"
How beefy is the tailgate? Would be a shame if some heavy load, say a cast-iron stove(*) headed for the recycle, were somehow not to keep up with the accelerating CyberTruck.
(*) Currently there is precisely this item loaded on the truck in the driveway. When I suggested to the truck- and stove-owner that we should secure the load, he declined, saying "I'm not going that far." Good, good, I'm not going with you then.
Well, I suppose you might be replacing it with one more suited to your needs, or something.
We just put a catalyzing iron-and-soapstone wood stove in Mountain Fastness 2.0. We have radiant-floor heating there already, via a continuous-flow natural-gas burner, and with 15-inch-thick exterior walls and three feet of insulation in the ceiling we're not spending a lot on heating anyway. But it is nice to be able to have a fire, and the catalyzing stoves are impressively efficient, as well as greatly reducing particulates in the exhaust.
Well not cast iron, but someone once had the same reply when I offered to loan them rope to tie down a load of furniture being moved.
I thought something might fall out. I didn't really think the big heavy dresser would have flown quite so high and for so long. Lucky I wasn't tailgating so was able to stop before I hit it or it hit me.
I'm not a fan of the looks of the many generations of the 911 myself, but when Porsche do something new, I don't much care for that either. And I have some grudging respect for their insistence on keeping their flagship around in one form or another (or, really, several forms at a time) despite the whims of the industry.
Of course, in any event I'm not their target market, since I intend to never buy another new car.
What off road abilities the thing wieghs twice as much as an ICE version due to battery weight alone and last i saw there's no recharging points in the wilderness. so exactly what you gonna do when you get stuck in mud and sand , rev the nets deplete the battery and yep your toast.
Still spose brave to try it.
Oh and what use is 2.9S o-60 in real life. my last co car was 3.2 s 0-60. and completely useless as most other cars dont accelerate that fast unless your hell bent on giving the car in front an enema!
... given that it needs a wooden ramp to help it get up a curb/kerb ...
Will they revoke warranty if you drive on country roads, like they do to other Teslas?
I'm sorry, but at what point did this Delorean designed by a toddler EVER look "cool" in any magnitude?
It's looks like a student team of engineers who'd been let loose with a welder trying to cobble together a vehicle on a desert island with no other resources.
In fact, it doesn't. Because even they'd have done a better job.
Seems almost like Twitler ordered some web admin to make the change without running it past legal first, and then when the press caught wind of it and started asking questions, someone had to sit baby Twitler down and explain to him that this likely isn't legal and could get the company sued. His babysitters at Tesla clearly need to do a better job.
It looks like that’s exactly what happened, yes. Had Twitler any patience or self-preservation skills to seek legal advice in advance of making very public missteps or the wisdom to grasp how often his unexamined impulses about this sort of thing are dead wrong, news of this never would’ve reached the public. It would have been handled in-house and swiftly rejected in favor of something less hilariously self-defeating and poorly-conceived. The workers responsible for trying to babysit Twitler can’t possibly be being paid well enough to justify the ostentatious careerism their jobs call for. I suppose people at that level and with such rudderless ethics tend to be surrounded by friends who are similarly lost in their own careerism, though.
<blockquote>"It's a supply and demand issue. This is going to be a tough vehicle to make [and] this is just them putting some guardrails in place," he added. The analyst, who admitted he has reserved a Cybertruck, said the move did come off poorly.</blockquote>
It doesn’t seem like a plus for an analyst to be wide-open about having piss poor taste and being intensely credulous about the way Musk’s companies market their products. He admits the move came off poorly to others, but not to himself because he’s in too deep in terms of wanting one of these hideous little boy toys. Any such “guardrails” were meant to make it easier for the marketing dep’t to come down heavy on disappointed buyers, not to protect the buyers from something, and he’s still all in. It’s beyond pathetic how so many weird nerds continue to try to fling themselves in between Musk and any criticism of him.
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