back to article You get a Copilot, and you get a Copilot – Microsoft now the Copilot company

Microsoft continues to push its Copilot concept onto users and shoehorn the technology into every crevice of the Windows giant line-up and others via Copilot Studio. Whereas Copilot for Microsoft 365 works from an enterprise's data already lurking in the Microsoft Graph, the plan for Copilot Studio is to extend the technology' …

  1. navarac Silver badge

    Disabled

    Disabled for now. Just a gimmick until it is proved to be reliable, secure, and private. Any bets on the last?

    1. Snowy Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Disabled

      No bets on any of the three.

      1. NoneSuch Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: Disabled

        Oh, I'll take bets, but MS will be on the losing side. MS product has never failed to let me down when I needed it the most.

        1. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: Disabled

          I see you have clicked on the "Help" button as well...

    2. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Disabled

      So from the user usage feedback that MS monitors to discover the parts of its products users use the most, expect CoPilot to become even more in-your-face.

    3. Snapper

      Re: Disabled

      Any bets on any of them?

  2. captain veg Silver badge

    At last!

    I see an actually useful application for this hype-tripe, if it can pretend to be me in Teams meetings so that I don't have to.

    -A.

  3. Paul Herber Silver badge

    I think I'm feeling very depressed.

    1. David 132 Silver badge
      Pint

      Sounds ghastly, doesn’t it?

      Computers now with Genuine People Personalities.

      Icon, because I need to drink several of these, the world’s clearly ending.

      1. Diogenes8080

        Pan-galactic AI

        Try a slice of lemon wrapped around a half-brick.

        1. Snapper

          Re: Pan-galactic AI

          It's actually a gold brick, but who's counting....

  4. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    Same old

    This has a whiff of cortana about it. It’s one of those things that few people will use (especially at 50 USD a month!) beyond the initial “seeing what it’s like” phase. People will want solid result from their office apps, not AI-generated content. And I believe the reason for this is quality. Everyone can now tell AI-generated text — it “talks a lot but doesn’t really say anything”.

    People will end up trying to “get the edge” by doing the work themselves rather than get AI to do it.

    At least for now. Eventually the technology will improve.

    But I think Microsoft are too soon with it, and as we have all seen, they have a track record for making fairly unreliable software.

    1. albegadeep

      Re: Same old

      <quote> Everyone can now tell AI-generated text — it “talks a lot but doesn’t really say anything”. </quote>

      You mean like a marketing department?

      1. Alumoi Silver badge

        Re: Same old

        You forgot influencers, politicians, celebrities, newspapers, lawyers...

      2. katrinab Silver badge
        Alert

        Re: Same old

        Yes, and most people can spot that a km away.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Same old

      To someone that will actual derive value from this. 50 bucks is cheap.

      For casuals writing lists etc, 50 bucks is pricey.

      1. Zack Mollusc

        Re: Same old

        The people who will actually derive value from this will be spending someone else's fifty bucks.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    compelling service experience

    That's usually what I get after 10 pints of heavy and a vindaloo chaser

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "leveraging natural language"

    Can we PLEASE quit with the wankwords?

  7. Rich 2 Silver badge

    And…

    …this hyped-up nonsense does what, exactly?

    1. Zippy´s Sausage Factory

      Re: And…

      It's basically Clippy v3

      1. katrinab Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: And…

        Or Microsoft Bob v4

        1. Zippy´s Sausage Factory

          Re: And…

          Bob v4? Nah, it's not *that* good yet.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Listen to the Vibrating Beads and you will know Truth

    LLMs can do prose, which includes syntactic grammar, but goes beyond just grammar, to something that *sounds* natural and confident. That is worth something, just like an expensive tailored suit is a prerequisite for many jobs in the finance, sales, advertising, etc.

    What LLM can not do reliably is create new valid semantic context. It can rehash existing content, but even then, that's risky, because it doesn't have the ability to validate the semantics and the rehash might not make sense.

    But does that matter? Consider ... In a recent exclusive interview with the Financial Times, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman unveiled a grand vision for the future: "Those (ChatGPT, DALL-E) aren’t really our products…Those are channels into our one single product, which is intelligence, magic intelligence in the sky. I think that’s what we’re about."

    ChatGPT could have created that "truth". Is anyone checking to see if Altman is wired - the Hans Niemann of venture capital gaming?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Listen to the Vibrating Beads and you will know Truth

      "just like an expensive tailored suit is a prerequisite for many jobs in the finance, sales, advertising, etc"

      Only if the value you offer elsewhere isn't sufficient to complete the package. It's all about perceived value. You need a suit to indicate to people that might not know you that you have some value...you have an expensive suit and watch, you must be successful.

      If you are *actually* successful and bring a lot of value, then the suit adds nothing. If you are some sort of genius level savant at what you do, you could turn up to work with your dick out...it won't matter.

  9. david1024

    Well...

    I miss Cortana. Just want that voice again!

  10. xyz Silver badge

    I suppose...

    If you use it on your left hand monitor it feels like someone else.

  11. Headley_Grange Silver badge

    AI Business Improvement

    "We anticipate an AI-powered business process reengineering wave that will sweep over every organization and every industry."

    MD - AI, tell me how to improve my business

    AI - There are too many pointless meetings that waste people's time. You have two layers of management and reporting that could be ditched if you tasked your people properly and trusted them to do their jobs. You should run with a 17% resource surplus so that every unforseen issue wouldn't delay multiple projects as you try to juggle staff around to fix them.

    MD (turning off the AI) - Just as I expected - bloody useless.

    1. Mike007 Bronze badge

      Re: AI Business Improvement

      This response lacks realism. Present technology cannot generate such a reply.

      It is direct and to the point, and reads as if it was written without the use of a thesaurus. Not representative of LLMs at all.

    2. katrinab Silver badge
      Alert

      Re: AI Business Improvement

      I tried it. Sounds exactly like the sort of meaningless drivel management consultants come up with.

      ---

      Improving your business is a great goal to have. There are many ways to do that, depending on your specific needs and challenges. Here are some general tips that might help you:

      - Organize your processes and workspace. Having a clear and efficient system for your daily operations can save you time, money, and stress. You can use digital tools to streamline your workflows, automate tasks, and collaborate with your team. You can also declutter your physical space by getting rid of unnecessary items, filing documents properly, and creating a comfortable and productive environment for yourself and your employees.

      - Revisit your finances. To improve your business, you need to know how much money you are making and spending, and how to manage it wisely. You can use accounting software to track your income and expenses, create budgets and forecasts, and monitor your cash flow. You can also look for ways to reduce costs, increase revenue, and optimize your tax strategy.

      - Connect with your community. Your customers are not only the ones who buy from you, but also the ones who support you and spread the word about you. You can improve your business by engaging with them on social media platforms, responding to their feedback, offering incentives for referrals, and creating loyalty programs. You can also network with other businesses in your industry or niche, join local events or associations, and participate in charitable causes.

      - Connect with your employees. Your employees are the backbone of your business, so you need to treat them well and motivate them to perform at their best. You can improve your business by hiring the right people for the right roles, providing them with training and development opportunities, rewarding them for their achievements, and creating a positive work culture. You can also communicate with them regularly, listen to their ideas and concerns, and involve them in decision-making processes.

      These are just some of the ways to improve your business in 2022. Of course, every business is different, so you may need to do more research or consult with experts to find the best solutions for yours. I hope this helps you get started on your journey of growth and success

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: AI Business Improvement

        Yep. You could probably get something slightly less tiresome with some prompt engineering and a higher temperature, but ultimately LLM output is going to primarily fall into basins — that's how gradient descent works, after all — and with LLMs trained on large and indiscriminate corpora ("the Web"), those basins are going to be sloughs of averaged dullness.

        I don't think the current strategy, which is basically I Can Haz Moar Parameters?, will help, either. If we had some huge alien corpus, like a body of quality writing from an alternate universe, that approach might produce interesting output. But with deep transformer stacks trained on existing widely-available texts, there doesn't seem to be a temperature optimum that will produce useful output (in the broad sense, including fiction) that is also stylistically interesting. And with such a machine to get anything intellectually interesting above the prosodic level — argument or plot, say — you essentially have to encode it all in the prompt, so you'd be better off actually avoiding the learned helplessness and loss of serendipity and do your own work.

        It's possible that a sufficiently-large transformer stack would be computationally capable of hosting Boltzmann brains, but as I've written before, I think we're at least several orders of magnitude shy of that mark.

  12. Alan Bourke

    Clippy with nipples

    and added privacy violations.

  13. steviebuk Silver badge

    Unless your a small company

    Like us. You require a large amount of "seats" to have access to it, which we don't. Not a fan anyway so no lose.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Perhaps they should just rename Copilot

    to "Micro$oft Plagiari$m A$$i$tant" ?

  15. Julian 8

    Teams

    Wish they would fix teams, remove the kddie gimmicks and make it a usable product before attempting to bloat it with even more rubbish

    1. Kez

      Re: Teams

      Don't count on it. Outlook has been around for two and a half DECADES and still shits itself constantly when tasked with core functions, such as synchronising a shared calendar.

  16. Patrician

    As with Cortana I really cannot see the point of these "assistants" on an office PC, or any PC used within a busy area.

  17. Pierre 1970

    Clippilot (tm)

    See above

  18. frankyunderwood123

    If it replaces marketing deadwood, I'm all for it...

    Seems like a perfect fit for 99% of the marketing crap most companies churn out.

    The vast bulk of it reads like AI generated content, even though it's created by humans, so may as well chop all that deadwood away and do the world a favour.

  19. 43300 Silver badge

    I've already tested it by asking it questions about some contentious issues. As expected, it parrots the approved line every time - no nuance, no indication that there are alternative viewpoints!.

    This thing is going to be a wet dream for propagandists - even better for shaping opinion than filter bubbles in search engines, and nearly as good as social media!

  20. MrAptronym

    So glad I finally ditched Microsoft entirely for home use. Not looking forward to my work being made more insufferable than before though. If this takes off I can already tell I am going to be wading through far more e-mails which are all far less coherent. If it isn't worth your time to write it, it isn't worth my time to read it.

    I hope this crashes and burns, given MS' track record with these things it probably will.

    1. navarac Silver badge

      Keep this crap off of my Linux desktop. Please take note Linux Distros (well maybe not Canonical or IBM?Red Hat)!

  21. Grunchy Silver badge

    I don’t “get” A.I.

    For some reason A.I. never provides any useful suggestion to me. It *always* guesses wrong. Which is troubling; is it simply useless, or has it become passive-aggressive?

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