back to article The Raspberry Pi 5 is now available ... if you pre-ordered

The Raspberry Pi 5 has started shipping, but with pre-orders likely to snap up the first batch, will the faithful have a merry or miserable Christmas? According to Pi supremo Eben Upton, "Priority Boarding" orders are starting to head out this week and are expected to be complete by the end of next. Approved resellers are also …

  1. werdsmith Silver badge

    They started shipping last Friday 20th and some people had them the next day.

    1. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge

      Eben said Q4 production would be 3 million, about a million a month, so, while they wouldn't just be building Pi 5, I'm surprised people are having to form a queue, official retailers are predicting a January delivery date.

  2. Chuzwuzzin

    This may disgust many of you....

    ...but my daughter's Pi 5 arrived on Saturday and is yet to be powered up (my own is still awaiting shipping though I at least have the case and PSU). She had a priority boarding code of course.

    1. cyberdemon Silver badge
      Alert

      Re: This may disgust many of you....

      And given that it still has no >5V USB-PD support on its USB-C (despite having a PD IC), it's lucky that you bought that 'official' wall-wart, or it would never be powered up very well at all.

      1. Chuzwuzzin

        Re: This may disgust many of you....

        So I gather from the description on the raspberry pi official site.

        BTW my daughter and I finally set up her shiny new pi 5 last night (a birthday gift) and she is delighted. It looks like a toy in its official case (no bad thing for a kid) but performs like a "proper" computer. I lent her a Pi 3 for a week or so before the (8GB) Pi 5 arrived so she really appreciates the improvement (to say the least).

      2. James Hughes 1

        Re: This may disgust many of you....

        Not true. The Pi 5 will run fine from a Pi 4 5v3A supply. It will limit downstream USB current to 600mA, but you can override that if you want, there is headroom there. The 5V5A supply would be needed if you were pulling a lot of current from the USB ports AND running all the Arms at full tilt.

        Putting the extra components on the board to handle higher voltages was considered, but the problems of the heat dissipation and board real estate meant 5v in was a better option.

  3. trevorde Silver badge

    Have we reached peak Raspberry Pi?

  4. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Drawer

    Such a shame. Spare a thought for all the drawers looking for arrival of RPi 5, never to be used...

    1. LybsterRoy Silver badge

      Re: Drawer

      The could keep my two RPi3s and RPi4 company

  5. Altrux

    Might be lucky

    My pre-order was placed at 09:11 on 28 Sept, soon after the announcement. No updates from The Pi Hut yet, but I'm watching...

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Might be lucky

      Should have had two emails from jamie@thepihut explaining the delivery schedule. Check you spam folder.

      First batch

      If you placed your order before 28/09/23 10:00 (UK Time), we estimate these pre-orders will start shipping at the end of October and early November

      1. GlenP Silver badge

        Re: Might be lucky

        I sneaked into that batch by about 15 minutes so I'm hopeful it won't be long!

        1. druck Silver badge
          Unhappy

          Re: Might be lucky

          I ordered from Pimoroni literally a few seconds after midnight on the 29th, so just missed the first batch.

    2. scaley

      Re: Might be lucky

      I ordered mine on the same day (28th) but not till 1208 and the PiHut say that orders after 10AM but before 8pm should be end of Nov/Start of Dec.. just missed it but should still be in

      my stocking for crimbo :-)

  6. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

    In some of the interviews, Eben talks about how the RPi started out as a cheap device for kids to play with at home but its users has morphed into business building it into other devices and users wanting more and more power.

    1. graeme leggett Silver badge

      In the interview with Kevin McAleer he did say that a lot of output went into industry rather than hobbyists

      But the Pi Zero is still <£20, the Pi Pico is <£5, and the Pi3 is <£25.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        There were 1GB and 2GB Pi4s still at $35. There are options on the PCB for 1 and 2GB versions of the 5 so it's possible a $40 one will appear in the future.

      2. doublelayer Silver badge

        However, I doubt that many children are getting started with their programming experience on a Pico or Pi Zero. Yes, you can get a Zero and plug it into a screen and a USB hub with an efficient keyboard and mouse to avoid requiring too much power, but it's clearly not meant for it. The Zero models are much more closely matched to wanting a board to build into some other device, although I have one that serves as an automation device for me. On the other hand, they've got a much better desktop in the Pi 4 than they did at the start, so the original educational dream is probably better served by that model than by the ones that came before. I wonder how many schools are using them as such, though.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Business loves the stable form factor and OS support which means RPi filled a market nee without looking for it. Lots of integrated sensors/control panels are suspiciously close to RPi dimensions. Unfortunately, the quality of a lot of the code running on the devices looks like something hobbyists would throw out!

      1. katrinab Silver badge

        Also, the kids who got the first Pis have now grown up, got jobs based on what they learned from using it, and are now applying that knowledge in the workplace.

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        >Business loves the stable form factor and OS support

        It's also a nice solution below the level where you hire an engineering team and spend a year spinning up your own board and porting Linux, but above the level you are buying dev-kits or having to use USFF PCs

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Cambridge store

    Missus picked mine up from the Cambridge store this morning, was very easy and the staff there helpful she said

    1. adam 40 Silver badge

      I'm alright (usb) Jack!

      I'll be going there too.

  8. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Missed opportunity

    It's a shame they don't sell a DIY kit so you could solder the components yourself (yes, including BGA stuff).

    Imagine youngsters learned how to do it.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Missed opportunity

      Not sure if it would help the supply problem, they'd need 10 Raspberry Pis to practice on first.

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: Missed opportunity

        There is hundreds available for next day delivery right now if you bother to look.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Missed opportunity

        Pah. I built a Nascom 1 from the supplied bag of bits in '78, powered it up, and it just worked. Of course didn't do much - didn't even have an assembler - but still had hours of fun!

    2. Catkin Silver badge

      Re: Missed opportunity

      If your oven goes high enough, prop it up and put it in.

    3. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: Missed opportunity

      The manufacturing process of this type of board typically includes a screen printer for the solder paste, a pick and place machine that puts the parts on the board and a soldering machine that can have up to ten heat zones in it. There may be further assembly for larger non-surface mount parts and an inspection unit using a 'bed of nails' tester. Home assembly is possible but its really not quite in the same league as building a simple radio set.

      You could consider a PiNano or similar as a modern 'component'.

    4. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Missed opportunity

      >Imagine youngsters learned how to do it.

      I think the USA is ahead of us in allowing young children to learn manufacturing skills directly

      1. Phil Dalbeck

        Re: Missed opportunity

        China's even better at it... the kids all work for Foxconn!

    5. claimed Bronze badge

      Re: Missed opportunity

      Arduino

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Looks good so far!

    Got mine on Saturday, up and running within half an hour!

    I opted for the cooler rather than the case, along with the 27W PSU

    Running nicely as a basic desktop; faster than a 4, and running slightly cooer. It's warm to the touch and reports CPU at 47.4 and GPU at 47.7

    1. Altrux

      Re: Looks good so far!

      Hopefully on the new 64-bit Bookworm-based OS?

    2. ColonelDare

      Re: Looks good so far!

      >...and running slightly coo[l]er

      While waiting for my Pi5 I have upgraded my Pi4s (several) to Bookworm and notice my old 1.5Ghz Pi4 behind our lounge telly runs both smoother and 10C cooler on both YouTube and BBC iPlayer.

      Keep checking the mail box.... :-)

  10. Spoobistle
    Go

    Pi 500?

    I wonder if there are any plans to put this in a case with keyboard etc like the Pi 400? Given the (supposed) pretensions to a desktop status it would seem a rational idea.

  11. chuckufarley Silver badge

    A single wired NIC?

    I'll pass, but thanks.

    1. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge

      Re: A single wired NIC?

      It's easy enough to connect a USB-NIC and those I have used just work. It was okay with the original Pi B and the Pi 5 has much more bandwidth for its USB.

  12. chuckufarley Silver badge
    Pint

    Easy enough to pile your garbage into hole and cover it with dirt and say "I'm Done!"

    Selling people what they don't need just leads to them buying more of what they do not need. Meet the Needs: Mr. Need wants to have fun and feel like he is somehow providing for his family of Needs. Mrs. Need wants to make sure the Needs do not starve or sleep in the rain. Her daughter Needs to fit in by wearing the wrong clothes for the right reasons. Need Jr. want's ice cream for desert.

    Everyone Needs an SBC that does more one thing at time without paying more for it. Call Everyone Needs a single unit of data and a niche market if you will but I believe those are terms used by people that have no idea how to make money and things last.

    It is this lack of imagination that perpetuates generational failures.

    1. claimed Bronze badge

      To learn from you, I’d first Need to understand what the hell you’re on about. I don’t

      1. chuckufarley Silver badge
        Boffin

        Re: To learn from me...

        ...is a false dichotomy. I sure as hell didn't learn from me because I am too biased to see my own flaws.

        Start there.

        1. James Hughes 1

          Re: To learn from me...

          Nah, don't think I'll bother.

    2. druck Silver badge

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