back to article Microsoft delays debut of IoT security offer due to 'unexpected system challenges'

Microsoft has quietly delayed the delivery of a security service it hoped to add to the E5 license of its flagship Microsoft 365 suite. A Tuesday note for Microsoft partners reminds them that on September 1 they were shown a price list preview showing a new offering: the "Microsoft Defender for IoT – Enterprise Internet of …

  1. jake Silver badge

    Not so strange.

    "But the company is also willing to take customers’ cash before the product ships."

    Has Redmond ever stopped selling a product that wasn't ready for prime-time?

    Of course not. If they did, they would have no product to sell, and the marketing department and the shareholders would hate that.

    1. Baudwalk

      You might even say...

      ...that Microsoft have been ahead of their time for decades. [/sarcasm]

      These days everybody flog their wares well before they're fully baked.

      1. jake Silver badge

        Re: You might even say...

        Something to remember is that the kids who graduated Uni/College and got into the corporate/government computer and networking world back when computers started becoming ubiquitous on desktops all over the corporate world are now roughly in their late 50s.

        Note this is managers, users, coders, programmers, systems folks, everyone.

        They started commercial computer work with Windows 2.x and DOS 4.0 (or thereabouts), and have become conditioned to the Redmond Way ... In their minds (and the generations following) it's supposed to be shoddy code, it's supposed to not be secure, it's supposed to break at the least convenient time, it will crash at random, updates will make things worse, over time it gets bigger and worse, if you turn it off and back on again it might fix it (maybe; try it again) ... these are all enshrined in the corporate mindset.

        So why bother building clean, elegant code that just works when the underlying OS doesn't support such a concept? There is no point.

        Those of us who started coding in the 60s or earlier are just left shaking our heads. Can you imagine what the reaction in Corporate America would have been if DEC or Burroughs or Sperry or IBM had made just one release that was as buggy as the code that is run as a matter of course on modern computers? Or worse, the drek in "the cloud"? The company's stock would have tanked, they would never have been trusted again, heads would have rolled ... ugly wouldn't even begin to describe it.

        But these days? Navigating through crap, buggy, crash-prone bullshit has become business as usual. Because THAT'S HOW COMPUTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK! Ask any manager. Or coder under 50. (Thankfully there are still a few real programmers out there in each generation.)

        I have no answers. I'm not sure there are any. It's probably too late.

    2. hoola Silver badge

      Re: Not so strange.

      Has any major software company ever stopped taking money for something that is not completed (or even works as designed)?

  2. PenfoldUK

    Sounds like they might be eyeing up the IoT part of Blackberry that Blackberry are planning to hive off.

    I suspect MS have found it's more difficult than just tweaking the old Windows Mobile source code...

  3. navarac Silver badge

    Where's the dictionary?

    Has anyone at Microsoft got a paper dictionary? Have they looked up the word "security" lately? I didn't think so!

    1. cookieMonster

      Re: Where's the dictionary?

      I bet the page with “Suckers” is bookmarked thought

    2. jake Silver badge

      Re: Where's the dictionary?

      "Have they looked up the word "security" lately?"

      That word was probably redacted forty years ago.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Budget constraints

    MS fired a bunch of good people this year, some in the security org as well. Then they did not do the usual annual merit increase and reduced bonuses a bit. A lot of focus is going to AI, I mean all of it. Reorgs and further budget constraints do not help the org with the deliveries of the new services. How can you expect people to push through in this environment? All of it is a bit odd given it is a 20B business.

  5. Ken Moorhouse Silver badge

    'unexpected system challenges'

    They've discovered that nails aren't the best way to secure jelly to walls.

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: 'unexpected system challenges'

      "They've discovered that nails aren't the best way to secure jelly to walls."

      ... and have undoubtedly just ordered a truckload of screws.

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