If self-experimentation was good enough for Neil Noakes it should be good enough for Elon Musk.
Neuralink's looking for participants willing to be part of human trials
That was fast: Neuralink, Elon Musk's brain-computer interface implant company, only received Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for human tests in late May, but it's already looking for participants in its first six-year trial program. Then again, Neuralink has been promising human trials of its implant, which is …
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Wednesday 20th September 2023 18:40 GMT Anonymous Coward
I can't believe I am going to type this
But cut the fucking snark!
I remember the snark about Space X when it started up. But thanks to Melon Suk putting someone else in charge look where it is now.
So it is easy to take piss out of neurolink turning people into cabbages. But...
If Melon puts someone else in charge, is it just possible that some good could come out of this?
I am about to go for treatment for cancer for the 4th time. This time the treatment is experimental. I don't give a fuck. Just do it to me.
Maybe people who are desperate, like me, will be happy to give Neurolink a go?
All medical science that we now take for granted was developed from awful happenings.
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Wednesday 20th September 2023 21:49 GMT aerogems
Re: I can't believe I am going to type this
He didn't really have a choice but to put Shotwell in charge at SpaceX. Moron decided it'd be a good idea to let himself be filmed smoking a blunt. We can talk about the stupidity of marijuana being a Schedule 1 drug in the US among the ranks of heroin and cocaine, but it doesn't change the fact that it is so classified, and that possessing and smoking it is a federal crime. A federal crime Twitler decided to have himself filmed committing while holding a US Security Clearance.
Condolences on your cancer. Since you read El Reg you can't be THAT bad a person. If there are people in a similar position who are willing to sign up for Twitler's program, I salute their willingness to sacrifice for the potential benefit for the rest of us. However, when it comes to Neurolink, I suspect their sacrifice would be wasted. There are others who have been at this game a lot longer than Twitler and they haven't managed devices that are orders of magnitude less complex than what Twitler's attempting. I'd much rather see volunteers sign up for clinical trials with those outfits. It has nothing to do with Twitler being a raging arsehole, and more to do with the fact that a lot of really smart people have been working on this a long time and they haven't managed to crack it yet, so the idea that Twitler can just throw a bunch of money around and magically achieve the equivalent of cold fusion in his garage, is rather bonkers.
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Thursday 21st September 2023 08:29 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: I can't believe I am going to type this
The issue I have with Musk, is the influence he holds over the US government, if they want to get stuff in to space it's SpaceX, the standard for electric vehicle charging sockets is now the one Tesla own, the donation of Starlink to the Ukraine government is now being funded by the US government after the Billionaire complained at the ongoing cost. Is it not unreasonable to think he, and his companies, may have some influence over the people who do the approvals?
Oh and while weed is Schedule 1 drug, cocaine is only Schedule 2
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Thursday 21st September 2023 13:32 GMT aerogems
Re: I can't believe I am going to type this
While I don't disagree, I believe NASA is still making its own rockets, they just (stupidly IMO) retired the Shuttle program. But the Starlink thing, especially based on some of the things we learned about via the book about twitler that just came out... Twitler basically can watch Ukrainian troop movements in real-time, and he's started spouting Russian propaganda of late, so if he ever gets it in his head to leak any of that info on Twitter it could be disastrous for Ukraine which is literally fighting for its very existence. I'm also not fond of having thousands of additional objects obscuring the view of astronomers, and requiring them to account for each little satellite if they get some unexpected reading.
I've always been of the opinion that government agencies like the military and NASA should be fully self-sufficient because of the sensitive nature of some of the things they do. Everything from building their own fighter jets to sidearms. Not that my opinion accounts for, anything really, when it comes to those matters.
Also, noted on the drug classification, which only makes marijuana being Schedule 1 all the dumber. I don't think there's any objective way you can claim marijuana needs to be regulated more stringently than cocaine.
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Wednesday 20th September 2023 22:31 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: I can't believe I am going to type this
A thumbs up from me for making a plausible reasoned argument. Still, I have a hard time reconciling the concepts of "Musk" and "the steady hand of a brain surgeon" - I don't consider that an insult to Musk either. Right, he wouldn't be the brain surgeon, but I worry his mountain moving activity might lead to earthquakes in the operating theatre.
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Wednesday 20th September 2023 19:37 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Maybe Musk already had this done
Beat me to it, but yeah, when was the last time you saw a 360 degree of his head?
I don't expect this one to end well, let alone in success. But since SpaceX is killing it, it will take it's place on his late phase Howard Huges dumpster fire reel.
This era will be hard to explain 20 years from now.
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Wednesday 20th September 2023 21:17 GMT darkrookie28
This is like a scam to take advantage of the disabled.
Go to the site. Nothing on how the thing interfaces with the computer on the main page. Nothing on price. Just some picture of a phone on what looks to be a wireless charger. And a whole bunch of how this will help the less fortunate.
Seems fishy to me.
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Wednesday 20th September 2023 21:33 GMT aerogems
*Hard* Pass
I cannot stress just how hard of a pass that would be for me. After reading about how many research animals they had to put down as a result of massive infections because of the abattoir conditions of their lab, and how they were transporting biohazardous waste around without proper safeguards.. even if Twitler offered me his entire fortune, I'd tell him where he can stuff it. What good is all that money if I'm a drooling vegetable the rest of my life? Or worse, being completely lucid, but trapped in my meat sack body.
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Thursday 21st September 2023 10:30 GMT Bebu
If the Neurolink chip does ApplePay...
Musk's loyal disciples will be lining up.
Its all a John Lumic / Cybus Industries style conspiracy for Tesla to harness millions of human brains into a network intelligence to drive Teska's self driving cars so as not to T-bone locomotives or home in on emergency vehicle flashing lights. Based on my exposure to the Musk fanbase the raw material (brains) are sufficient defective to sabotage this cunning plan from the outset. It must be galling to be at best a third rate John Lumic ;)