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Welcome once again to On Call, The Register's weekly reader-contributed column that recounts readers' stories from the frontlines of tech support. This week, meet a reader we'll Regomize as "Ogden," who shared a story from a couple of decades back when he worked for a young firm that sold mobile phone ringtones, wallpapers, …

  1. Korev Silver badge
    Coat

    > "Oh yes I know," the customer responded. "I have some of them on my coffee table."

    Oh PLayboy, that seems a bit un-Mayfair...

    1. ComputerSays_noAbsolutelyNo Silver badge
      Joke

      Layboy - the magazine for the connoisseur of the external anatomy of the opposite sex.

      1. bjzq888

        Wouldn't that be for non-clergy anatomy only?

        1. snowpages
          Angel

          That would be an ecumenical matter..

          1. JimboSmith

            That would be an ecumenical matter..

            Have an upvote for the Father Ted reference. RIP Dermot Morgan and Frank Kelly.

            1. Korev Silver badge
    2. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      He will be sent up to the Penthouse for that one

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Rather reminds me of a mate of mine who went on a family holiday to France whilst still at school. His dad had located a house they could rent on the south coast that was close to a beach so it seemed perfect. At this stage dear reader it should be pointed out that this predates the internet as we know it today. You relied upon the travel agent and a guidebook for information about where abroad you were going. Well my mate was thrilled to discover that the fabled beach was within walking distance, even more thrilled to discover when he got there it was a clothes optional beach. Very few people there were wearing anything which added to the seaside fun.

      He was always asking to be able to go to the beach and his parents happily let him if he promised not to go into the water. So the 12 year old him armed with a bucket, spade and towel went down morning and afternoon for two days. That was until he didn’t go back for lunch on time on the third day and his mum came down to get him. The way he told the story his mum marched him straight back to the house. She had a blazing argument with his dad about booking the place because of the beach. He said he was just going on what was in the brochure which never mentioned anything about it being a nudist one and he hadn’t even been down there to see. My mate said it was the closest they came to divorce and he was forbidden to go to that beach. He said he found out that Pron wasn’t very realistic on that holiday. His mum was down the holiday company when they got back telling them about the unsuitability of that beach and therefore the villa for families in language he said you couldn’t possibly misunderstand.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        My folks always used to go to the nudist beaches in France when we were on holiday, which I guess gave me the French attitude of "naked people are just people".

        Although it did make it tricky to chat up a girl, when you'd seen both of her parents naked just that afternoon. A teenage boy has enough on his mind, without having to consider the effects that forty years of ageing will have on a body.

        1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

          You see it the wrong way around: Choose your girlfriend after the looks of her parents is a way to a brighter future! But don't ignore the character. A bad character is a poison good looks cannot fix, so minimize the exposition to that.

      2. cosmodrome

        The poor child

        I am sure he was traumatized for life and is a drug addicted serial killer now. Seeing people naked (OMG! OMG!) at the tender age of 12. What a horrible, horrible thing to imagine. Nakedness is without any doubt the most threatening hazard to our planet, currently.

        1. YetAnotherLocksmith Silver badge

          Re: The poor child

          Without sarcasm tags, you sound like a GQPer.

    4. MatthewSt Silver badge

      Oh Nuts...

  2. b0llchit Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Deflection

    It is all your fault!

  3. bpfh

    So let me recap...

    You let your child read pr0n magazines, and from there he orders things from the pr0n mag that you let him read, and yet your permissive access to pr0n is our fault. How old is your child and should we be worried enough about your parenting choices to call someone?

    1. Fading
      Coat

      Re: So let me recap...

      Probably upset about the money spent on pR0n when the supply was freely available from the local hedges........ (is hedge pR0n still a thing?)

      1. muddysteve

        Re: So let me recap...

        Yes, but it comes on USB sticks.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: So let me recap...

          It does WHAT on USB sticks???

          1. Anonymous Anti-ANC South African Coward Silver badge

            Re: So let me recap...

            >>It does WHAT on USB sticks???

            It rumpypumpies them.

          2. Will Godfrey Silver badge
            Pint

            Re: So let me recap...

            You made I larf!

        2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
          Joke

          Re: So let me recap...

          I have trouble inserting mine!

          Hedge porn & also found a couple of mags in a HST vestibule area.

          1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
            Alert

            Re: So let me recap...

            I have trouble inserting mine!

            Ouch! yelled the male hedgehog, to the female hedgehog

            1. Evil Scot Bronze badge

              Re: So let me recap...

              ANy Pratchett fan can tell you wht went wrong here. Right Nanny?

          2. the spectacularly refined chap Silver badge

            Re: So let me recap...

            also found a couple of mags in a HST vestibule area.

            The Hubble has a front porch?

            Not surprised about the magazines, we all know what telescopes are really for.

            1. collinsl Silver badge

              Re: So let me recap...

              HST125 = High Speed Train. Also known as British Rail Class 43, or Intercity 125 (125MPH was it's top service speed)

              Note: The Intercity 225 was the electric version, and it's top speed was not 225MPH, it was in theory supposed to be 225KM/h but was limited in service to 200KM/h or 125MPH by track limitations.

          3. Scott 26

            Re: So let me recap...

            >I have trouble inserting mine!

            its USB - try it the other way around

            1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

              Re: So let me recap...

              In that case it must have been one of those qsn drives!

            2. the hatter

              Re: So let me recap...

              Then flip it back over and try the first way again.

      2. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

        Re: So let me recap...

        this kid had a free supply on the coffee table!

        theres an excellent Mitchel & Webb sketch about hedgepr0n btw .

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So let me recap...

        In the more northern latitudes of Scandinavia there was forest pr0n. Or so I gathered from what other boys talked about.

    2. Jason Bloomberg Silver badge
      Stop

      Re: So let me recap...

      should we be worried enough about your parenting choices to call someone?

      Hang on - How do you know the parent doesn't have those wank mags on his coffee table only because he retrieved them from under his kid's bed after finding out he'd been charged for some porn download?

      Maybe the kid admitted to everything, handed those mags over.

      But, sure; burn the witch. We can ask questions later.

      1. bpfh
        Trollface

        Re: So let me recap...

        I'm more surprised why in the age of smartphones would someone *buy* smut when the internet exists. I mean, the WWW was only created for 4 things: smut media, cat media, warez and email - to help share the previous 3?

        1. FrogsAndChips Silver badge

          Re: So let me recap...

          That was at a time when downloading ringtones was still a thing, that largely predates smartphones.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: So let me recap...

            That's from the days when the users were still smarter than their phones.

            Grmbl.

            1. KittenHuffer Silver badge

              Re: So let me recap...

              That line was crossed somewhere in the mid 1970's I'm afraid!

        2. jake Silver badge

          Re: So let me recap...

          "I mean, the WWW was only created for 4 things: smut media, cat media, warez and email"

          Nah, at least 8 things: rumo(u)r, lies, conspiracy, sensationalism and gossip, with sides of pR0n, warez and cute cats.

          Email is not now, never has been, and shouldn't ever be thought of as a Web thing.

          1. collinsl Silver badge

            Re: So let me recap...

            The Internet is an American invention, the WWW is a joint British/Swiss invention (since it was invented at CERN by a Brit). The WWW sits on top of the Internet but is not the entire Internet.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: So let me recap...

          > WWW was only created for 4 things: smut media, cat media, warez and email

          Nah, we had Usenet for the first three, and you used the same client for Usenet and normal email.

          The web was created to lift us up - but we was too heavy for it.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: So let me recap...

            "The web was created to lift us up..."

            ...and a laudable intention it was too. But it rapidly became a dumbing down tool, removing text, replacing with pictures and videos :-(

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: So let me recap...

        > How do you know the parent doesn't have those wank mags on his coffee table only because he retrieved them from under his kid's bed

        So - maybe he put the wank mags on the coffee table, the most prominent place in the house for casual boastful advertising to any visitors ("oh, you're reading "Brief History of Time"l)?

        What was the line supposed to be? "Your lad grew a chin hair, that's nice. Oh, those? Well, our boy..."

  4. SonofRojBlake

    "Ogden was the startup's first tech hire and after a few years on the job found himself leading a team comprising eight developers, a pair of sysadmins, an IT manager, and the customer support team"

    I feel like this doesn't add up. Mainly because I remember those businesses selling ringtones, wallpapers etc. to people to tech-unsavvy to simply generate them themselves - and that business model seemed only to be a viable thing for about two years at the absolute outside.

    Am I just remembering wrong? Were people really PAYING for low-resolution background images for their phones for "a few years"?

    1. jmch Silver badge

      "Were people really PAYING for low-resolution background images for their phones for "a few years"?"

      Not sure about low-resolution background images, but many people were certainly paying for custom ringtones for quite a while

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Trollface

        Whatever you do, don't at this point remember Crazy Frog and have it as an earworm for the rest of the day.

        Muhahahaha. You're welcome.

        :-P

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
          Coffee/keyboard

          Oh Sir! You absolute rotter, Sir!

        2. 42656e4d203239 Silver badge
          Trollface

          >>Whatever you do, don't at this point remember Crazy Frog and have it as an earworm for the rest of the day.

          The only response here is to mention that you have reminded me about The Game... which I have therefore lost. And so have you.... and the rest of the people reading this post.

          I hope you can sleep easliy with that atrocity on your mind.... no.... wait.....

          Shame there isn't a troll beer icon... is it beer o'clock yet?

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
            Thumb Up

            It's a;ways beer'O'clock somewhere in the world. Just use your imagination and "travel" :-)

        3. jake Silver badge

          WTF is a Crazy Frog?

          Never mind. I probably didn't care back then, so why would I care now?

          1. Rattus
            Pint

            wtf is crazy frog

            a more commercial hamster dance....

          2. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Available in the US

            And they didn't use the bowdlerised version!

        4. Greybearded old scrote
          Angel

          Ear-vermicide

          Easily fixed.

          Welcome

          1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

            Re: Ear-vermicide

            Nice one, I expected this, but this is a better ear-worm.

            1. Return To Sender
              Happy

              Re: Ear-vermicide

              or this

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEBwsE1QQE4

              My ringtone for some time before the angry mod with pitchforks etc. caught up

          2. Dizzy Dwarf

            Re: Ear-vermicide

            I used to love Trumpton as a kid. It's easy to forget Lemmy wrote the theme tune.

            Here he is on set: <https://www.friday-fun.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/2634-celebs.jpg>

          3. Norman Nescio

            Re: Ear-vermicide

            I've had the pre-chorus and chorus from David Bowie's Life on Mars playing on repeat in my head for a week now. Playing Queen hasn't shifted it. Luckily, I (still) think it's a good song.

            My brain has a wide selection of ear-worms it keeps on going back to, and not just pop music. The transition between the third and fourth movement of Beethoven's fifth symphony is one, as is the main theme of Smetana's Vltava (The Moldau)

            1. mirachu Bronze badge

              Re: Ear-vermicide

              Pop pop pop music pop pop pop music

        5. Coastal cutie

          I once got stuck on a train where one of my fellow passengers had that as the ring tone. Unfortunately, despite her desperate rummagings, the phone had lodged itself into a unreachable corner of her bag and whoever was ringing did not have the brains to leave a voicemail, just kept on redialling. We finally crawled into Clapham Junction where she managed to shove her way off before someone found enough room to do her a serious mischief (the train was overcrowded to Tokyo levels due to signal failures), as the entire carriage had endured over 20 minutes of this.

          1. ssharwood

            Aaaah Clapham Junction ... I pased through in the first few days of my time living in London. Having previously only seen touristy and nice residential bits it was quite a revelation ... I later learned that the district was gentrifying. All the 20-somethings I worked with referred to it as 'Claaahm' to denote its upmarket shift.

        6. Stevie

          One Good Earworm Deserves Another

          Hey Mickey! You’re so fine!

          You’re so fine you blow my mind!

          Hey Mickey!

          Hey Mickey!

          1. Dizzy Dwarf

            Re: One Good Earworm Deserves Another

            I know a song that'll get on your nerves,

            Get on your nerves,

            Get on your nerves,

            I know a song that'll get on your nerves,

            Get-get-get on your nerves.

            [repeat ad nauseam]

            1. RichardBarrell
              Pint

              Re: One Good Earworm Deserves Another

              That one doesn't really work any more because I've since heard pop music which was so much more annoying.

              And I enjoyed it, too!

        7. ssharwood

          You had to go there? I thought of a mention while writing this On Call and held back

      2. Stevie

        Paying?

        Hey, people were paying serious money for Netscape Navigator once upon a time.

    2. Xalran

      *Were people really PAYING for low-resolution background images for their phones for "a few years"?*

      Yep, lasted for about 6/7 years between the first ones that could be bought and installed through WAP and the last ones that were sold and put on the phones through early 3G.

      For the tech savvy : it lasted as long as GPRS and EDGE where the only option in town, once 3G came ( and the smartphone craze ) all those companies when the way of the Dodo or moved to Internet.

    3. Sir Sham Cad

      Were people really PAYING for low-resolution background images for their phones for "a few years"?

      Yes, and I worked for a (now defunct) company specialising in early personalised 3D avatars where the VCs panicked, brought in someone to pivot the company to sell said low-res images of the custom, personalised, hi res 3D image as that's where the quick money was.

    4. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Big Brother

      I believe it was generally people who weren't paying the phone bill who were suckered in by these schemes. ie kids whose parents gave them a phone without due diligence, or management types who didn't give a shit about the company paying for it.

    5. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      My preferred ringtone was never for sale, but I found a .mid version about 25 years ago. Which has ever since been my ringtone on my private phone.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Personally, I've clipped "one moment, please..." from Big Clive.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          His standalone version - or the entire team around him nicking his catchphrase in the recent videos about self-heating chinese meals?

          1. Martin-73 Silver badge

            One vince the crew chief please....

        2. Unoriginal Handle

          I had this . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5ARinUHbU&ab_channel=SoundEffectsTras

    6. ricardian

      Who remembers PG Strangman RIP on a certain telecom-related newsgroup back in the 1990s

  5. thosrtanner

    I'm slightly bemused that you felt it necessary to spell out 'not suitable for work' in full, then add the abbreviation.

    Pretty sure no one who reads this column needs any introduction to that particular abbreviation.

    Maybe you should take to spelling it out in full in all those headlines as well.

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Clearly new company policy following a complaint

      Someone followed the "Now Show Friends and Workmates" suggestion and his lawyers blame vultures for the consequences.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Clearly new company policy following a complaint

        New South F*cking Wales.

    2. GNoMe
      Angel

      This is the correct method for using abbreviations. The first time it is written in full with the abbreviation in brackets afterwards, from then on you can just use the abbreviation.

      This is correct grammar, something normally missing from news sites.

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
        Headmaster

        Less of a grammar and more of a style, I might suggest? Nonetheless, it's good to see it done properly!

        1. jake Silver badge

          It's not so much "a" style, but "the" style. Or, rather, all my style guides agree this is the way it should be handled.

    3. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      They responded to those many "Abbreviations only valid on US territory" complains. And, correctly, applied it as general rule.

    4. Dizzy Dwarf

      I'm amazed they didn't provide a link.

    5. emfiliane

      If they don't, there's always That One Bloke who comes to the comment section enraged that it wasn't spelled out.

      If they do, there's always That One Bloke who can't help themselves from coming to the comments to make fun of the writer.

      Can't win, can ya.

  6. Bebu
    Windows

    "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

    I suspect the caller's unhappiness had more to do with the cost of his son's interest in les femmes déshabillées than the actual provision of the images of the same.

    How NSFW could these images be without attracting the attention of the old bill? I suppose in the day Altavista wasn't as willing as Google &c is now to ante up such material (and I imagine much less hrmm... tasteful.)

    Probably has a lot to do with the notorious prudery of the English - I can not imagine even at that time an eyebrow would have been raised in AU. Our second public broadcaster SBS used to televised on Friday nights a lot of Continental (EU) and Art films some of which could be an "education" in themselves.

    This SBS was later responsible for my seeing "Madame Kovarian" sitting on a bed, starkers singing "Teddy Bears Picnic" to her companion in "Zed and Two Noughts" which was akin to "a paradigm shifting without a clutch.*" ;)

    *Cancelled

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

      "How NSFW could these images be without attracting the attention of the old bill?"

      Well, Usenet was available through virtually every major Uni world-wide from the early '80s on ... Once in a while a bit of a stink was raised, but it usually blew over before anybody contemplated attempting to censor the uncensorable.

      1. MarthaFarqhar

        Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

        Most Universities dropped the alt.binaries.* due to bandwidth issues as well as the lack of storage. The majority of issues Universities had with USENET was trolling, basically one religious group baiting another, or bored students trolling rec.pets subgroups.

        1. aerogems Silver badge
          Devil

          Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

          Ah some of the very first BOFH stories where Simon was working at a University. In one of them he somehow or other finds himself as a guest lecturer in a class and when they ask questions he brings up embarrassing details about them. One of them was something like, "Ah, the only person on campus who subscribes to alt.sex.clown.buggery!"

          1. jake Silver badge

            Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

            The BOFH stories started on Usenet ... and became tired and derivative of themselves before they left. Frankly, I'm flabbergasted that they are still a thing.

            1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

              Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

              THOU ART AN HERETIC!

              1. aerogems Silver badge
                Alert

                Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

                Heretic Extremis Diabolus!

                1. jake Silver badge

                  Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

                  Nah. It's far worse than that.

                  I'm a jaded old RealLife sysadmin.

            2. aerogems Silver badge

              Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

              I still kind of prefer the vintage ones when he was clearly working through some anger issues, but even the newer ones are pretty good. Usually, but you can't expect every story to be a winner.

        2. jake Silver badge

          Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

          Mine was referencing the years before the Great Renaming in 1987. alt.* didn't exist yet, and almost everybody took the full feed, which was right around 1000 posts per day, averaging about 2.25 million bytes total spread out over around 250 groups and read at somewhere around 6,500 sites.

          I stopped reading all of Usenet during xmas break in '84, it was getting ridiculous with sometimes 250 posts per day! I stopped scanning all the headers in early 1986 when the number hit 600 posts/day occasionally. I stopped subscribing to all groups when it hit 250 groups and 1000 posts/day in '87 ... but by then I was running my own news server, so it hardly mattered.

    2. Captain Hogwash Silver badge

      Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

      Ah such fond memories. In the UK in the 1980s and early 1990s Channel 4 used to show Peter Greenaway films quite frequently. Also it showed many other films from Europe and beyond which were seen as somewhat outside the mainstream. Today Channel 4 is a case study in enshittification.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

        C4's entire (original) remit was to show material that was outside the mainstream, by any measure they could think of, and anything else that the other 3 channels wete unlikely to broadcast. So we had nerdish Countdown in the afternoon and Eurotrash that same evening. Plus Greenaway films, Tartovsky films, and the absolutely brilliant and much missed 4mations.

        C4 started broadcasting US comedies, SF and whatever category Buffy falls into, before the other channels caught up.

        They also suffered (and still do) a lot of shit by promoting LBGT+ material before, e.g., BBC caught up with "This Life".

        They have pulled in the reins, unfortunately, in the last decade or so, but Film 4 still sponsors the making of less-mainstream films (which don't give a monkey's about making a big opening splash in the US - yes, that is a real Irish accent and no, you don't get subtitles!). And they still show stuff others won't (e.g. Big Bang Theory every. single. day. No other channel does that!).

        Still have a lot of live for the C4/E4/Film4/etc channels - they are not as radical as they were but then everyone else is catching up, even in the free-to-air channels, so to keep up with what remains of the remit they do put out stuff with far less nerdy appeal. Nowadays you watch a Greenaway film just for the brilliant vocal acting of Gielgud; if you want the boobs, BabeStation will suffice.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "C4's entire (original) remit"

          That's long gone. C4 and the BBC are now becoming the inexorable in pursuit of (censoring) the unspeakable - C4 has removed its entire Russell Brand oeuvre and the BBC "material that falls below public expectations" from their player services*. No doubt fresh faced interns are busy winding up AIs to deepfake such persona non iam grata out of old programmes in the hope of salvaging any residual media value.

          (ITV and C5 were always too scared of frightening the advertising horses to push the free speech envelope very far.)

          * Not that I care at all about Brand, but the sight of the canary dropping off its perch.

      2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

        Mary Whitehouse

        @Bebu: the notorious prudery of the English

        I do wonder sometimes what Mary Whitehouse would have made of the current media.

        See the quote attributed to Michael Grade, CEO of Channel 4, reflecting on her career:

        "I don't think she has had any effect at all. She never sees things in context..."

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse

    3. StuartMcL

      Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

      Ah yes, Friday Night SBS often said to stand for "Sex Before Soccer"

    4. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge

      Re: "The caller had paid the bill, but wasn't happy."

      The Old Bill only learned about online pron about 10 years ago, to answer that question.

  7. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Ah, the good ol' days

    When you could threaten someone with bodily harm over the phone, in front of witnesses, acknowledge that you found their home address like a stalker, and not have your door burst down fifteen minutes later by six bulky men with an attitude armed to the teeth.

    1. aerogems Silver badge

      Re: Ah, the good ol' days

      I was just going to make a similar comment. Especially considering right now there's a story on El Reg's front page about how someone called in a threat over the Unity game engine change caused them to cancel some events because of threats.

      The past is another country. They do things differently there.

      1. TRT

        Re: Ah, the good ol' days

        Whereas the future, for us all, holds old age which isn't just a another country, it's a whole other continence.

        1. aerogems Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: Ah, the good ol' days

          Better than incontinence.

        2. Mast1

          Re: Ah, the good ol' days

          Ah, as in the directions one allegedly gets from the locals on the Suffolk coast (right pond). Harwich for the continent, Frinton for the incontinent.

  8. chivo243 Silver badge
    Trollface

    File This One!

    Under do as I say, not as I do!

  9. Stork

    Similar story from print times

    My aunt was working at the Royal Danish Mail, responsible for correspondence in English with other postal services.

    In the seventies there was a lot of publications of graphical nature posted from Denmark, and in one case a shipment was returned from the US with the comment that they could not let that sort of stuff into the country. My aunt took a quick look and wrote back: “yes you can, it says printed in the USA”.

  10. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

    Porn on the coffee table? I take it he's divorced or a widower; I can't imagine any sane wife tolerating porn being left out in front of the kids.

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