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The long anticipated Arm flotation is set to kick off today with shares being offered to the public at $51 apiece, putting a value on the company of $54.5 billion. Britain's chip design and licensing outfit said in a statement that its shares are expected to begin trading on the Nasdaq Global Select Market in New York on …

  1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

    So much for Singapore on Thames.

    1. Peter2 Silver badge

      Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

      To summarise, Softbank bought Arm in 2016 for ~twenty years worth of ARM's yearly revenue and ~64 times their yearly profits, presumably hoping to shove up the licensing fees to make up for this, however when they tried to quadruple the license fees people started looking at switching to other things (eg RISC-V) and Softbank realised that they'd fucked up and dropped the prices back again leaving them with a business they'd hugely overpaid for.

      So to improve matters, they sold a majority stake in ARM China to entities controlled by the Chinese Communist Party in 2018.

      They are then surprised that the above has rather different objectives to Softbank, and that the China operation is now operating for the benefit of China rather than the ARM board. They then try and recoup their huge capital investment by selling ARM to NVIDIA, who would only want it to try and create a tech monopoly ala Intel. This is rightly blocked by competition authorities to maintain some semblance of competition. Softbank is still stuck with a huge capital investment that is not going to pay off for a century or so and so is listing ARM to try and persuade idiots to buy it off of them at well above what it's objectively worth.

      The FT published this article 6 months ago which contains this gem:

      One official said: “The expectation was never very high for them to list in the UK. We would have basically had to rip up listing rules and dramatically water down corporate governance standards.”

      The article and comments on it appears to give the impression that UK investors have a culture that does not encourage investing money in heavily overvalued companies with poor underlying financials, and our regulators [the FSA] don't like unbacked bombastic statements that inflate the value of a company, whereas poor underlying financials combined with bombastic statements drastically overvaluing companies appears to be accepted and encouraged in the US.

      While we will of course "lose" those businesses to the US stock exchanges in the short term, when the bubble bursts on the hugely overvalued tech companies in the US then presumably there will be screamed questions at the regulators that enabled losing hundreds of billions.

      1. Munchausen's proxy
        Unhappy

        Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

        While we will of course "lose" those businesses to the US stock exchanges in the short term, when the bubble bursts on the hugely overvalued tech companies in the US then presumably there will be screamed questions at the regulators that enabled losing hundreds of billions.

        No, here in the US we've been pretty thoroughly conditioned to believe that any corporate regulation is pure evil, and any consequences to our personal financial status should be blamed on whichever politician of the other party has had his name in the news most recently.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

          If the bubble bursts then the US authorities can always extradite some senior management from Cambridge an pin the blame on them.

          1. pimppetgaeghsr

            Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

            There are no senior managers in Cambridge dude. It's all mid-tier flunkeys and JIRA jockeys.

        2. cookieMonster Silver badge
          Pint

          Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

          Probably the most accurate thing I’ve read on the internet this week.

          Upvoted, and have a pint

      2. unimaginative

        Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

        I think it is very likely that Softbank as selling now because they think the business is close to its peak.

      3. firefly

        Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

        I don't know much about investing, I just play it safe with index funds.

        But what I have learned is that you should never invest in what Softbank is currently investing in. Or Cathie Wood.

    2. unimaginative
      FAIL

      Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

      No tech IPO this size has ever happened in London. Tech IPOs have always favoured the NASDAQ.

      ARM was UK listed because it was much smaller at time it listed. It is less British AND a lot bigger than it was back then.

      Even smaller tech businesses favour NASDAQ. I used to work for an Asian company that aimed at a NASDAQ listing one day. I asked one of the management why they did not consider London, and the answer was "why should we?" - because tech always goes for NASDAQ. Ironically, said company is now owned by the London Stock Exchange.

    3. Justthefacts Silver badge

      Re: British chip designer to trade on Nasdaq only

      5% of ARM floated on Nasdaq. Another 5% was pre-hoovered by NVidia, Microsoft et al. 90% is still owned by SoftBank.

      $5.4bn doesn’t even begin to cover the $15bn that SoftBank paid to the Saudi wealth fund for 25% of the company. It seems that none of this was the actual purpose of the IPO. The whole circus was just intended to *set a price* for ARM, and convince SoftBank shareholders that there is really any value at all in SoftBank.

      ARM is still far from a public company.

  2. steviebuk Silver badge

    All a mess

    Fucking tories selling it off. I owned some shares when they were a UK company, then they got sold of so all our shares got purchased. Now if I wanted to buy again I have to do it via a US trade.

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: All a mess

      AFAICS it was you who sold off your shares. There are many things for which to blame HMG but is selling Arm one of them?

      1. Peter2 Silver badge

        Re: All a mess

        From an investment point of view, when somebody wants to buy something for many times what it's worth you say "thank you" and once they hand over the money you then cackle in private.

      2. steviebuk Silver badge

        Re: All a mess

        Nope, we all had no choice. Owning a tiny amount we were all forced to sell. The big players agreed the price, or the tiny players had the choice forced onto them.

    2. pimppetgaeghsr

      Re: All a mess

      Far better investments than a 120 PE company my dude with no growth in earnings visible.

      I would say thanks to Softbank for paying you 50% premium at the time, this price will crater within 6 months.

  3. pimppetgaeghsr

    So we can expect a massive dump some time later in the future only to find out at their quartlery earnings that Softbank have exited a significant portion of their position?

  4. Snowy Silver badge
    Facepalm

    When

    When they sell $54.5B of the shares then it can be said to be worth that much, not when only around 10% is floared

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