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Chinese netizens have been laughing at the expense of US Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo, who will be surprised to learn that she has been crowned unofficial Huawei brand ambassador despite her country's efforts to hobble the company and China's wider tech industry. As noted by Huawei Central, the irony of US sanctions …

  1. Clausewitz4.0 Bronze badge
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    Kudos to China

    Kudos to China ... Able to bypass unfair USA sanctions, promoting BRICS + BRI + SCO.

    De-dollarization won't happen all at once. Nope - the dollar will go out not with a bang but with a whimper .. Expect Washington to try to sabotage these developments, rather than curb its insane sanctions addiction.

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: Kudos to China

      China maintains a link of their currency TO the is a pipe dream so long as the yuan is a defacto dollar.

  2. Avon B7

    Sanctions were always going to do more harm than good

    From day one it was crystal clear to all onlookers and analysts that sanctions were a one shot wonder, with that sole bullet cruising straight into the collective head of the US administration.

    Mr Maga Trump used to Tweet anything and everything that popped into his head (until he was banned). One such tweet contained the famous 'not on my watch' statement.

    He didn't give a hoot about who would actually have to deal with the consequences of his actions.

    So what are those consequences? The exact same ones that have been laid out over and over again by key industry figures and analysts.

    1. Severe and permanent harm to US semiconductor interests. The semiconductor association (representing over 1,000 US companies) wrote to the White House warning of the perils. Lost revenues which are needed for future R&D. The Pentagon even briefly stepped in to halt a Trump executive order - on national security grounds. The irony!

    2. De-americanisation. Again this is ironic. To reduce the financial impact of the 'sanctions' on US companies, licences would be required. This led to complaints from sovereign nations who were impacted by restrictions imposed on them because their products just happened to contain US technology elements. To make matters worse, in one of the more recent rounds of restrictions, those allied sovereign nations were not even notified of the new restrictions. That anger floated to the surface as companies complained that US companies had an unfair advantage through licences. 'America First!'. Many analysts believe that De-americanisation is currently underway to free non-American companies from the shackles of US weaponised sanctions. Most estimates put the process as taking around 5 years from design change, testing and implementation. Around 2024.

    3. Chinese retaliation. China has bided it's time so far. It hasn't really used its sanctions busting laws and other moves (raw material restrictions, Micron etc) have not been very intense. That could change at any moment and Apple is likely a key candidate for some China love.

    4. Chinese Betterment. Far from slowing Chinese progress down, sanctions have turbo charged the entire Chinese semiconductor industry, pushing it ever more closely towards self sufficiency. That was always the goal anyway (just like the EU). It will just be pushed harder. Huawei is the nexus of basically everything. For every single restriction imposed on it, measures have been initiated to overcome them. It has invested in companies across the entire chip manufacturing process. Literally every single step and is pushing out patents as its R&D setup works overtime. We are talking lithography, photoresist, etching, EDA, packaging etc.

    China has just announced a new 40 billion dollar plan dedicated to realising its goals. It doesn't matter just how far away they are from final products. The point is that, as a result of sanctions and technology weaponisation it will all happen far, far faster than anyone ever imagined.

    It won't be on 'Trump's watch' but he might have to watch everything play out from his cell in the not too distant future.

    I'm sure a fair amount of moderates are regretting letting the Hawks do so much damage but the genie is out of the bottle now and there's no getting it back in. That ship sailed, the bullet has been fired. The damage has been done.

    The BRICS and DSR will surely be waiting to lap up whatever non-US technology starts rolling out.

  3. DXMage

    USA mad that the CCP spy stuff prevented the 5 eyes spy stuff

    It was blocked because the CCP spyware blocked the 5 eyes spyware. Simple as that. OOOOOOoooo we can't let the CCP be the only ones spying on everyone thus the sanctions. The 5 eyes has to get in there too. I'm sure that if it allowed the 5 eyes spyware in it that they wouldn't have been banned.

  4. chasil

    Low yeilds

    SMIC has actually been able to manufacture a 7nm process node for over a year, but it uses deep ultraviolet (DUV) and the yields are low.

    Extreme ultraviolet (EUV) is achieved by vaporizing molten tin with a laser in the latest equipment from ASML. This technology remains unavailable.

  5. martinusher Silver badge


    The reports in the US are all about the Chinese 'evading' sanctions and being very coy about exactly what their Kirin 9000 processor is and how its being produced. The general tenor of the articles is very much along the lines of "How dare they defy our sanctions?" and "They're not telling us how they did it, it is our right to know".

    Both questions are moot if you've been reading the Reg for the last couple of years. We all know that this moment wasn't a matter of 'if' but 'when'. The actual date may have been adjusted for maximum political impact but the message has been obvious from the start. All our actions did was galvanize the Chinese into concerted action -- I know that if I were a Chinese Huawei employee (for example) I'd be working 24/7/365 to make this moment happen. Its a matter of not just national pride but national survival. Now we have to reckon with the fact that they're not only back in the game but we've lost a very significant market for our products.

    (Hand in glove with our wonder at the processor is the "but it supports 5G -- what does Huawei know about 5G?" Its not as if they've been a leading developer of this technology or anything like that.)

    De-hubrising ourselves is a long and painful process. Its long overdue.

  6. jezza99

    China will get there without Western technology if required

    America and other Western countries are dreaming if they think they can delay China by more than a few years.

    China spends more on science and technology than any other country in the world, by quite a long way. The West may have the best chip manufacturing technology today, but it will surely be surpassed.

    China also takes a long view, not the short termism that Western governments are hamstrung by.

  7. EricB123 Bronze badge

    Too Many to Count

    I've lost count of how many countries are strapped with USA sanctions. Has anything positive resulted from any of them?

    1. Clausewitz4.0 Bronze badge
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      Re: Too Many to Count

      A few million kids dead from malnutrition, business as usual...

  8. frankrider

    Good for them

    Good for them. They don’t have to worry about US backdoors anymore. Now al, they have to worry about is their own totalitarian government. That’s kind of a win, I guess.

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