back to article India lands Chandrayaan-3 spacecraft on Moon, is the first to lunar south pole

India successfully put its Chandrayaan-3 lander on the Moon today, making the nation's space agency the first organization of its kind to touch down on the lunar south pole. Launched from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre on Sriharikota, an island off the Bay of Bengal coast, on July 14, Chandrayaan-3 has three main parts: a …

  1. Jan 0 Silver badge
    Pint

    I have waited so long for this. I still remember the exhilaration of watching Sputnik 2 crossing the night sky, although probably long after Laika had died:(

    After the first Cosmonaut and the US Moon landings there was a great void in space exploration. So here's a beer, ideally a lot of beers, for the Indian team. Bravo!

    1. swm
      Pint

      I second this. Congratulations to India for a great mission. They deserve more than one beer.

    2. JT_3K

      Hear hear.

      If you have kids in your life somewhere, you need to go fish for this book. Just don't forget the tissues.

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laika-Astronaut-Owen-Davey/dp/1783700270/

    3. werdsmith Silver badge

      I am so very impressed with how well executed a mission it is so far. India has a government committed to science and they understand the value of space missions, this will drive the nation forward.

      Shame about the nations who don't have that vision.

    4. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

      Indeed! Congratulations to the whole team over in India and around the world that has been involved! Terrific success.

  2. Spherical Cow Silver badge
    Pint

    Milestone moment

    It feels like this is the start of a new era of moon missions: the search for *useable* water makes this the first step towards establishing a lunar base, something we've never done before. India have therefore joined the club in a very significant way. Exciting times!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Milestone moment

      Critcal to brewing Lunar Lager, without which you'll never get construction workers to go there and build your fancy moon base.

      1. Bebu Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: Milestone moment

        《Critcal to brewing Lunar Lager》

        With the lower gravity (1/6g) the bubbles should rise more slowly and thus, I suspect as the bubbles would linger longer around the nucleation centre, they will be larger (and fewer.) Will need a major investment in lunar beermaking technology to restore the same lager experience. ;)

        Since ISRO has neatly dropped this scientific mission onto the lunar south pole I imagine they can fix any future lager problems. :)

        Congratulation to ISRO and all involved.

        1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

          Re: Milestone moment

          >With the lower gravity (1/6g)

          But you will also fall over more slowly

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
            Pint

            Re: Milestone moment

            We'll also need new methods to calculate the specific gravity up there!

    2. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

      Re: Milestone moment

      I'm not too sure about all this. First they'll have to demonstrate that the Lunar ice is actually feasible to mine and process into potable water. We're a very long way from doing so and it may take years and years before anyone is able to take a sip of Lunar water.

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge

        Re: Milestone moment

        Given the total mission* cost (a bit over $51,000 per Kg landed) of actually getting this onto the Moon I would think there's quite an incentive to dig it up locally.

        The Lander & rover total up at 1,752Kg.

        With a repeat mission basically costing only a rocket and payload (development costs not needed) there's probably scope to land a viable water extraction unit in time to offer the first set of new astronauts a drink - Hint. tea leaves are quite light... (accreditation for this wonderful bit of ISRO PR can be given via the Reg!)

        *$90M US give or take

        1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

          Re: Milestone moment

          What about milk for the tea? Any cows on the Moon?

          1. Zebo-the-Fat

            Re: Milestone moment

            Must be cows, where else would the green cheese come from?

          2. Spherical Cow Silver badge

            Re: Milestone moment

            "Any cows on the Moon?"

            One did jump over...

          3. Wellyboot Silver badge
            Happy

            Re: Milestone moment

            The Chaiwallah will take care of that.

            These entrepreneurs have the ability to find a new market only rivalled by CMOT Dibbler*

          4. Geoff May (no relation)

            Re: Milestone moment

            Astronaut 1: "I can’t find any milk for my coffee."

            Astronaut 2: "In space no one can... here, use cream."

            1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
              Joke

              Re: Milestone moment

              If Astronauts are drinking coffee, they musk be Americans, so don't use proper cream anyway, just thickened, flavoured white chemical mixes known as "Creamer".

              1. Groo The Wanderer Silver badge

                Re: Milestone moment

                Stand out from the crowd of tea-swilling heathens! Drink coffee, the delicious hot brown nectar of the gods... :)

            2. Intractable Potsherd

              Re: Milestone moment

              Excellent! (Except for the very idea of putting cream in tea - ugh!)

              1. Jan 0 Silver badge

                Re: Milestone moment

                Surely not as ugly as contaminating coffee with bovine secretions.

                (It's not all about tea, India grows some excellent coffee too!)

        2. MachDiamond Silver badge

          Re: Milestone moment

          "there's probably scope to land a viable water extraction unit in time to offer the first set of new astronauts a drink"

          There's been lots of work on that from the usual suspects and through contests. What's really needed is a good inventory on what forms water will be in to know what sort of extraction is going to work the best. There are plenty of hydrated minerals, but getting the water back out is tough so it makes sense to find an easier source and get to the point where machinery for more difficult extraction can be built in-situ.

      2. MachDiamond Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Milestone moment

        "I'm not too sure about all this. First they'll have to demonstrate that the Lunar ice is actually feasible to mine and process into potable water. We're a very long way from doing so and it may take years and years before anyone is able to take a sip of Lunar water."

        Has your day been that bad?

        Have one and celebrate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      3. Spherical Cow Silver badge

        Re: Milestone moment

        "I'm not too sure about all this. First they'll have to demonstrate that the Lunar ice is actually feasible to mine and process into potable water."

        That's what this mission is for: to look for water to answer that question. That's why this mission is the first step.

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Milestone moment

        they'll have to demonstrate that the Lunar ice is actually feasible to mine and process into potable water.

        Well they could just use it directly in some Amrut Fusion** Single Malt.

        ** The only choice for He3 contaminated ice.

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        2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
          Alert

          Re: Milestone moment

          Now there's a business opportunity - closer to home - how about Fukushima Single Malt? There's so much of 3H over there, they're emptying it all into to the sea.

  3. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

    Precision landing

    The first mission failed because they essentially wanted to do a pinpoint landing, without having any experience in doing so. The main thing they changed in the software is to allow for a much greater landing zone (4km x 4km) instead of the original 400m x 400m. If I had been in charge the goal would've simply been to land "anywhere but in a crater" and the first try would've succeeded.

    Oh well, they stuck the landing this time, so I guess they've paid their learning dues.

  4. MachDiamond Silver badge

    It's great the club has a new member

    The more people there are excited about moon missions, the more money there will be to do more of them everywhere.

  5. Ken G Silver badge
    Pint

    This is the coverage I was looking for most of yesterday

    Well done ISRO. This is how it should be done.

  6. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

    Too bad for Science, really, more of that is always welcome.

    1. DJO Silver badge

      Re: Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

      Roscosmos didn't have any comms for a lot of the mission, both ESA and NASA offered to give Roscosmos comms when their craft was out of sight of Russian ground stations but Roscosmos declined the offer.

      As for this mission very well done but has nobody ever seen any SF? The instant anybody drinks the water on the moon they will be turned into a vacuum tolerant homicidal maniac.

      1. Fred Daggy Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

        Still, could be worse. They could be turned into Executive Management, or a CEO.

      2. The Oncoming Scorn Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

        "Don't drink the water. Don't even touch it. Not one drop."

  7. Bebu Silver badge
    Windows

    Re: Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

    《... has nobody ever seen any SF? The instant anybody drinks the water on the moon they will be turned into a vacuum tolerant homicidal maniac.》

    Not so very different from drinking russian vodka then?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

      That's the problem, they put the vodka in the lunar lander - and drank the hydrazine.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Well, I'm guessing Roscosmos is keeping veeeery quiet now

        Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?

  8. WonkoTheSane
    Headmaster

    Chandrayaan 3 did NOT land "at the South Pole"

    The landing site is at a latitude of roughly 69 degrees South.

    If it had landed on Earth, it would be comparable to the coast of Antarctica.

    It is, however, the furthest South any lunar landing has been successful.

    1. sitta_europea Silver badge

      Re: Chandrayaan 3 did NOT land "at the South Pole"

      The article also seems to say that the lander is in a place which contains many craters pernamemtly shadowed from he sun. I'm not sure that's right either.

      1. The commentard formerly known as Mister_C Silver badge

        Re: Chandrayaan 3 did NOT land "at the South Pole"

        It's still better than an article I saw on the BBC news web site last weekend that stated that any water near the Lunar South Pole hadn't been subjected to solar radiation, then told us later that the area would be great for a base as it can get up to 200 days constant illumination.

        1. werdsmith Silver badge

          Re: Chandrayaan 3 did NOT land "at the South Pole"

          It's still better than an article I saw on the BBC news web site last weekend that stated that any water near the Lunar South Pole hadn't been subjected to solar radiation, then told us later that the area would be great for a base as it can get up to 200 days constant illumination.

          The article also seems to say that the lander is in a place which contains many craters pernamemtly shadowed from he sun. I'm not sure that's right either

          The bottom of some of the craters at the south pole are indeed sheltered from the solar wind by their oblique situation - and are in permanent darkness and very low temperature. Shackleton would be a good example and would hold its water as ice. I don't think the BBC article suggested "any" water. And it is indeed correct about the long period of illumination. So as a simplified description of what might be found, it's accurate enough for general consumption.

          So both are correct.

  9. RyokuMas
    Thumb Up

    About time!

    Hopefully this will spur on other nations and we'll start exploring again. Nice one India.

  10. Potemkine! Silver badge

    Very well done India!

    The achievement makes India the fourth country to land on the Moon after the US, Russia, and China,

    That's false, Russia never landed on the Moon, unless considering a crash as a landing. In that case, add Israel and UAE to the list.

    1. Uncle Slacky Silver badge

      Russia didn't, but the USSR did...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunokhod_programme

      1. Potemkine! Silver badge

        Re: Russia didn't, but the USSR did...

        That's exactly what I said: Russia didn't. And won't for a long time.

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  12. Raj

    A wonderful achievement for India - the entire nation came to a standstill during the lander descent, and the youtube live feed was the most watched in the history of that platform. These things are a big deal in the grander scheme of things around nation building.

    Chandrayaan 3 benefited from the terrain mapping by the Chandrayaan 2 orbiter, that continues to troop on around the moon despite the loss of its lander 4 years ago. That detailed terrain mapping data is valuable to ISRO for future endeavors, in addition to enabling them to easily nail the Chandrayaan 3 landing.

    One thing I wish would change faster is the use of frugal engineering. It's fine that the mission cost only $80 million whatever. But science and technology research should get quite a bit more money. ISRO in particular needs resources to build far more powerful launchers than the LVM3 which currently tops out at 10 tonnes to LEO / 4 tonnes to GTO.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      India Purchasing Power Parity (what you get for your $) is 24-25x the USA

      I suspect that doesn't apply to paying rocket scientists - but India also has the advantage of not needing to build parts and operate duplicate facilities in 50 states.

      Since manpower costs are likely the driver of the whole program, except for a few advanced semi-conductors that they have to buy in $, you can easily imagine how this can be done for 5% of the cost of a NASA or ESA mission

  13. DJ
    Coat

    Tell me again

    what it is we're celebrating?

    India: first country to put a machine at the south pole of the moon.

    India: country with more smart phones that flushable toilets.

    Have you been to India in the last five years? More than a few blocks from your hotel?

    Mine's the one with the extra dose of reality in the pocket. ----->

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Tell me again

      And the USA shouldn't have built any of those railroads and factories until everyone had their own log cabin

    2. Raj

      Re: Tell me again

      We all love reading a good British whine about India, but maybe you could try making a little more sense.

      Do you normally carry a commode around in a backpack with you everywhere alongside your phone sofas to maintain a 1:1 ratio ?

      Yes India has something like 800 million smartphones as of 2023 - effectively every adult having one as you’ve seen from all your hotel walks. You’ll also notice that none of them were also lugging a loo with them.

      Don’t blame countries for your own inability to choose foods that don’t give you the runs at the wrong moments.

    3. Intractable Potsherd

      Re: Tell me again

      A man with no aspiration whatsoever. How sad.

    4. RagBag

      Re: Tell me again

      Educate ypurself, you jealous Brit:

      https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1907510

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