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Google is pitching another strategy to convince Googlers to return to the office, specifically the campus at Mountain View HQ: offer them a night in an on-site hotel for $99 where they can simply crawl to their desk the following day. A three-day hybrid week was initiated by the company last year, yet employees aren't …

  1. xyz Silver badge

    Accommodation on site....

    That you pay for.... Sounds like an immigrant labour (labor US) camp.

    1. blackcat Silver badge

      Re: Accommodation on site....

      Indeed, does not compute!

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: Accommodation on site....

        It depedns. I'm sure it computes for Google.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Accommodation on site....

          So... you pay to not leave work.

      2. Sherrie Ludwig

        Re: Accommodation on site....

        Well, $99 a night x365 /12 = about $3011 per month, a relative rent bargain in that part of California, especially when you figure in no cost commuting. Just live there 24/7. Not that I would want to "live over the shop", but it is a consideration.

        1. doublelayer Silver badge

          Re: Accommodation on site....

          What kind of facilities do you think they'll provide for that, though? I somehow doubt you get a place where you can move in all of your things. Most likely, it's a smallish room with a bed, table, and bathroom, useful for being able to stay there but not where you want to live full time. That's assuming that paying every night will allow you to reserve a specific room at all times rather than getting assigned new ones on occasion, basically the difference between static IPs and ISP DHCP where yours doesn't change very often but you can't guarantee it. People might start comparing it to other options in the area, even expensive ones, to find something that better fits the kind of residence they expect with a well-paying tech job.

    2. chivo243 Silver badge
      WTF?

      Re: Accommodation on site....

      Next thing you know, you're paid in Google funny money too! Company scrip anyone?? Pullman must be smiling!

      1. ChoHag Silver badge

        Re: Accommodation on site....

        Next?

        It's called "perks", or "benefits".

    3. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Accommodation on site....

      But remember the unpaid Google workers gained valuable skills in the cotton fields

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

        Re: Accommodation on site....

        Another day older and deeper in debt, I owe my soul to the company store...

  2. Maximus Decimus Meridius

    I spy a business opportunity

    If all they are policing is badges scanned in/out, what is to stop some enterprising person who does work in the office regularly having a handful of badges from remote employees that they scan in together? $20/day/badge could add up

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I spy a business opportunity

      Oi. Shus!

      I've been doing this for years.

      Anon because etc

    2. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: I spy a business opportunity

      The threat of being fired when they're caught using someone else's security credentials to access an office. Maybe someone would be willing to take the risk, but I'd never entrust my credentials to someone else because they could use them to access the office while pretending to be me, possibly before doing something worse, and I have a feeling both of us would receive some nasty consequences as soon as that was discovered.

    3. Screepy

      Re: I spy a business opportunity

      The bigger corps I've worked for, there were always security guards watching the entry gates. Standing there scanning a load of cards one by one may attract their attention (unless off course you can cut them in on the sweet deal)

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: I spy a business opportunity

        The team in charge of administering the entry gate system have all recorded working 8 days/week in the office and have achieved top performance scores

      2. Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Joke

        Re: I spy a business opportunity

        Sorry - forgot the icon

      3. Paul Smith

        Re: I spy a business opportunity

        Security guards on minimum wages are not always as conscientious as their employers might wish.

      4. parlei

        Re: I spy a business opportunity

        And if Google was a company that had the technical ability they could easily detect patterns such as as badges that entered or left all together, moved past the same checkpoints at the same time, etc.

        1. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
          Big Brother

          Re: I spy a business opportunity

          Or simply deploy facial recognition to check people in/out of the office

  3. Number6

    Google probably has more interest in getting people back to the office than a lot of companies, given how large an office footprint they have in the Bay Area. There's still that large area by Diridon Station in San Jose that they bought up for redevelopment into another huge campus (albeit right next to a major public transport hub), will be interesting to see how that fares.

  4. Malcolm Weir

    Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

    This doesn't sound like such a bad deal.

    I mean, suppose you took advantage of remote working during the pandemic and now live in the Sierra Nevada mountains. Driving to Mountain View takes 3 - 4 hours, but that's manageable if you don't have to do it every day -- there are plenty of folks who do this for the weekend, often leaving Thursday night and returning Monday before dawn.

    With the Google accommodation plan, you can leave early Tuesday, spend Tuesday and Wednesday night at the G*Hotel for $200, and be home late Thursday. And of course "early Tuesday" and "late Thursday" are fungible quantities. This works out at $800 per month, which is substantially cheaper than trying to buy a crash pad in Silicon Valley, particularly when you factor in the idea that some weeks may only need one night, or none at all.

    Of course it's not ideal, but when considered in the light of Bay Area housing, it's not a horrible way to keep your G*Income stream while living remotely.

    (I can get hotels just across the bridge from Facebook for ~$150/night, plus the bridge tolls. So $99 isn't bad).

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

      Rent in even a bad area of SF is more than $3K/month so $0.1K for (n-1) days/month you actually work in the office seems like a deal

    2. sbegrupt

      Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

      > This doesn't sound like such a bad deal.

      Except for people with families, perhaps?

      1. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

        Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

        Or people with a life.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

          HR wants to talk with you about that. There is no section in the Employee Handbook that talks about you having a "life", so I would suggest fixing that before the meeting.

      2. Flumblebutt

        Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

        This is tech. We don't like people who have families (old, can't work nights and weekends) and lives (possibly old, prefers not to work nights and weekends).

      3. Azamino
        Joke

        Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

        > Except for people with families, perhaps?

        There will be plenty of examples where the families will be more than happy with the arrangement!

      4. Malcolm Weir

        Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

        Well, perhaps, but it's nothing new: affluent people in The City (of London) used to (and many probably still do) have flats "in town" and live in "the country". Back around the turn of the century the City was a desolate wasteland on weekends, but bustling during the week. For a while there was a thriving pastime in finding places to go out to eat on Fridays and Saturdays (spoiler alert: east of Bishopsgate).

        [ Back in the early 1960s, my parents bought a good sized but somewhat run-down house in the not-very-fashionable suburbs close to the far end of the District Line, waited until the kids finished school, sold the suburban house -- which had become much more fashionable and less run-down -- and bought a flat in the Barbican and a house in darkest Oxfordshire, all through the magic of real-estate appreciation and child labor for renovation... ]

    3. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Possibly unpopular opinion, but...

      >” This doesn't sound like such a bad deal.”

      Well, for once I would take my lead from Musk and take my sleeping bag and clear out a space under my desk, as a nod to my colleagues I would fit a desk to floor drape…

  5. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Devil

    "some staff are resisting"

    And well they should. Almost nothing done at Google requires being on-site.

    It's not staff's problem that management is looking at empty offices.

    Management should rent those offices to other companies.

    It's called a business opportunity, Google !

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: "some staff are resisting"

      Very likely a dead market.

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: "some staff are resisting"

      Maybe they need to employ an Ad Agency to post some ads around the local area, what with them being a tech industry and advertising not being one of their core skills.

    3. darklord

      Re: "some staff are resisting"

      except who are you going to rent office space too. too many companies are getting rid of office space.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: "some staff are resisting"

        I could see small start-ups want to to rent space at Google HQ, especially if it include access to the "children's play areas" Google are famous for :-)

    4. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

      Re: "some staff are resisting"

      I believe this is all orchestrated by management who fear losing their cozy jobs if staff aren't there to be bullied.

    5. Peshman
      Facepalm

      Re: "some staff are resisting"

      Business opportunity and one step away from WFH to WFAC (Work From Another Country).

      Oh, yeah...IIRC that's called outsourcing. Why pay local salaries for people who never come into the office?

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Can you say hookup?

    Someone might...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Can you say hookup?

      Wasnt't Tinder looking for ways to diversity and add income streams? Rent out rooms at a "work-ish" location to people wanting somewhere "to relax and concentrate on work" for a few hours.

  7. Mark #255
    Coat

    "Imagine WFH without the H"

    "Just imagine no commute to the office in the morning and instead, you could have an extra hour of sleep and less friction,"[...]

    I mean, that sounds almost like my WFH day.

  8. Marty McFly Silver badge
    FAIL

    Supporting data??

    This is the poster-child company for both overt and covert tracking analytics. Surely Google has data showing productivity levels of remote vs. on-site workers. I didn't see any reference to productivity metrics in the article.

    I might be a touch cynical here... If Google has hard data showing greater productivity on-site, I expect they would be shouting it loudly. The absence of that data suggests either the data does not exist, or the data exists but does not support their return-to-office narrative. I am betting the latter is accurate.

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: Supporting data??

      I'm betting on the former. They should be able to collect that data, and someone probably does, but statistical analysis of that data is hard and leads to complex reports that say things like "The correlation indicates with low confidence". Manager's don't want to look at that, and Google's business relies on that fact. After all, a lot of advertising is useless but people do it because they can't be bothered to analyze whether it helped or to run some experiments to see how much. Why should they check the numbers when they can just announce the new idea, which might be beneficial or harmful but they have the freedom not to check which.

  9. JavaJester
    Stop

    Demotivating Employees with RTO Diktat Is Not a Good Use of Real Estate

    Your top performers will flee. What's left will be demotivated. Your output and morale will suffer. What a terrible use of the company's real estate assets. The employees have spoken. You should listen to them. You lack metrics showing that in office performance is better. If you had such metrics, you would shout them from the housetops not hide them under a bushel. My prediction is: years from now business schools will be using the RTO push as a cautionary tale of how more adaptive companies prosper by finding profitable uses of their unoccupied real estate while ones stuck in a more 20th century mindset are left behind.

  10. Wanting more

    I've been to the office 3 times this year. We now share 18 hot desks between a department of 100, so we couldn't all come back at the same time if we wanted to. The organisation is considering closing it's current campus and rebuilding a smaller office elsewhere.

    So looks like I'll likely be at home for the rest of my career,

    That's quite a change in just 3 years.

    1. Cynical Pie

      And I'd wager the work still gets done and possibly more quickly and effectively than pre-pandemic

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Teamwork

    If it's just for sleeping perhaps join with a friend(s) to at least half the price per night. For people in their 20's that might be tolerable. Any older and then snoring and bad fart air start to become a problem.

  12. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
    Windows

    grab a delicious breakfast or get a workout

    "grab a delicious breakfast or get a workout in before work starts."

    Are they mutually exclusive? Is that why it's "only" $99 per night?

    And this IS a bunch of IT nerds, so is breakfast whatever cold pizza is left from the night before?

    I think he'd prefer the breakfast over the workout ------->

    1. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

      Re: grab a delicious breakfast or get a workout

      I wouldn't mind coming in once a month is Google pays for my airline ticket from Nebraska and sets me up in a hotel across the street.

  13. MachDiamond Silver badge

    Zoom is phasing out Wfh too

    I was reading an article earlier about how Zoom is trying to make people come back to the office. Of all the companies out there, Google and Zoom are two that likely have the highest percentage of 'workers' that don't really need to be in the office.

    1. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Zoom is phasing out Wfh too

      Would that other article be the last 4 paragraphs of this one?

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: Zoom is phasing out Wfh too

        "Would that other article be the last 4 paragraphs of this one?"

        No, it was an article put out by Reuters.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Zoom is phasing out Wfh too

      I know a few people who used to work for a company we'll call "Big Blue" or "Multistate Commerce Contraptions". In the not too distant past that particular company were also very strict on WFH and barely ever permitted it.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    $99 per night in the Google hotel

    Or for only $49 per night we'll let you bunk under your desk (includes free early morning wake up call, otherwise known as a hoover to the back of the head).

    Google: why would you ever want to leave?(tm)

  15. Portent

    No thanks

    No thanks. I will continue to work from home where I can crawl out of bed to my desk in the morning.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This was always going to happen

    It became clear a good while ago that none of the 'big' employers were ever going to allow 100% remote forevermore, but people seemed happy to live in denial. If you were one of those people who literally bet your house on that and moved 300 miles away from your employer's nearest premises on the promise of "remote work forever" that is now being rolled back, then you have a problem coupled with some big personal decisions.

    There was a delusion that "remote work" meant employees would now hold all the cards and dictate their terms with employers being overjoyed to give it to them. "Remote work" meant you can live on the banks of Loch Cranachan and get Canary Wharf pay and benefits without ever being able to point out London on a map.

    That was never sustainable and ultimately very unrealistic. I also suspect this "digital nomad" trope will go the same way in 2-3 years, the only reason it's a thing at all is because countries are reeling from the lack of tourism. That will eventually stabilise.

    1. Will Godfrey Silver badge
      Meh

      Re: This was always going to happen

      The original dinosaurs were big and these ones will go the same way - it will just take a bit longer. It's 'everyone in the office' that is ultimately unsustainable not work from home.

    2. ArrZarr Silver badge

      Re: This was always going to happen

      Considering how awful London is, I'd argue that Loch Cranachan is insufficiently far from that self-aggrandising monument to an empire it can't accept it doesn't have any more for anybody whose had the bad luck of needing to spend any length of time there.

      - Signed, A Northern Lass.

    3. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

      Re: This was always going to happen

      Oh I don't know. There's such a thing as competition. If the competition is willing to let employees work from home then Google is gonna lose out on some big talent.

      Unless all the companies by way of synchronicity decide to ban WFH this trend won't die. Employees will fight it tooth and nail.

    4. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: This was always going to happen

      Agree, lockdown was too short!

      It would have probably only required a few more months before leaders would have been forced to adopt WFH etc. as the new way of working.

      However, it was sufficient for some to see the true scale of overhead costs, specifically of head office admin functions being performed in expensive locations.

      I suspect the two big factors in the “Return to the Office” are:

      1. Too many Peter Principle people in management.

      2. Existing office leases.

      Not saying there aren’t benefits in same time-same place working, just that these aren’t the main drivers (back in the 80s some rapid growth IT companies seem to have managed to balance office and home working, also BT had a mature WFH organisation, so blended working is not really new..)

      Expect firstly, as growth continues to elude companies, there to be a downward pressure on staff costs. However, the wise will be looking to not extend those now expensive leases, so secondly,as they finish expect offices to be vacated. Also media releases will extoll the virtue of WFH et al; With C-suite individuals being remotely interviewed from their Caribbean island “hovell” (/sarcasm).

      I would also expect activist investors will be pushing boards to get rid of offices - consuming monies that could be lining investors pockets…

  17. s. pam
    Angel

    Welcome to the slaves

    Appears it is just another Hotel California

  18. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Joke

    UK Home Secretary

    Would probably be interested if Google could offer those rates in the UK. She's looking to house tens and thousands of asylum seekers whilst their applications are processed

  19. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

    Won't work

    Google will either have to accommodate its workers or risk losing talent to companies who have a more lenient policy on WFH (work from home).

    WFH can be extremely profitable for most Bay Area workers since housing prices are literally in the millions for a 4 bedroom run-of-the-mill home near one of the tech-giants. If you can work from, say, Nebraska, you could save yourself a bundle.

  20. Danny 5

    I owe my soul

    to the company store.

    All these company bigwigs worrying about their corporate real estate losing value (because we all know it really isn't about anything else, right?), you'd almost feel sorry for them.

    Almost.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Tax breaks?

    I wonder if there’s a financial incentive to the company to have employees come into the office. It can’t be simply expense reduction because regardless of whether the office space is leased or is owned by the employer, it is already sunk cost. So, why the hard sell on RTO? If there was data to prove better productivity, that would have been blared out incessantly.

    Is it because real estate expense gets favorable tax treatment in the company’s books if employees are on-site? Are there any accountants reading El Reg (why? ;)) that can chime in on this theory?

  22. Efer Brick

    There's no place like home

    Said Dorothy

  23. Azamino
    Devil

    No chance

    Post IR35 the only way to make any serious coin in the UK is by working multiple gigs (>3) simultaneously at home. You can't maintain that illusion working from someone else's office!

  24. AndrueC Silver badge
    Meh

    Bye-bye!

    After praising management for seeing sense last year and not asking us to return to the office they've changed their minds and now want us in two days a week. So I've handed in my resignation and will be starting my retirement a few months early. Viva la resistance!

  25. Ben 56

    Hiring the best comes back to bite

    As they are proud of always hiring the best, the best can easily walk.

    I suspect they will have a massive uphill struggle that will result in the $99 being waived and a pay increase for many behind the scenes in hush hush pay deals.

    If it was me, I'd refuse point blank because this is dictat caused by the same thinking that made bricks and mortar stores close by not adapting to online quick enough.

    Who'd want to work for a has-been company like that now, if you can just as easily walk into a better higher paid remote job?

  26. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    "coming together in person"

    Get a room! Oh, good.

    On a slightly more serious note, the Google HQ campus is about 15 miles long, which is at least 30x farther than the comfortable range of a Gbike. Meetings always needed video conferencing.

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