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Spacecraft orbiting the Earth, Moon, and Mars have all detected the same giant coronal mass ejection from the Sun – the first time vehicles in all three locations - plus one on the surface of Mars - have all observed the same event of this sort. The solar outburst, tagged GLE73, took place on October 28, 2021, and sent a huge …

  1. heyrick Silver badge
    Happy

    What an amusing coincidence that they measure radiation using units that have the same name as supposed alien visitors.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
      Alien

      Coincidence? Did they invent the unit scale before or after the grays crashed at Roswell? :-)

  2. bronskimac

    observed from Earth, Moon, and Mars simultaneously, really?

    As light takes approximately 4 and a half minutes longer to reach Mars than it does to reach the Earth, "simultaneously" might be a bit of a stretch.

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Re: observed from Earth, Moon, and Mars simultaneously, really?

      Indeed. Always reminds me of James Burke on his eponymous TV programme "Connections" explaining why "Live" TV broadcasts showing the relayed scene as it was, a few moments ago...

    2. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: observed from Earth, Moon, and Mars simultaneously, really?

      Ah come on, you know what we mean. They picked up the same event.

      C.

      1. Martin-73 Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: observed from Earth, Moon, and Mars simultaneously, really?

        Indeed but pedantry is a long honoured tradition, yknow... :) Have one for the weekend>>

  3. Winkypop Silver badge
    Alien

    How do you like your astronaut?

    ===> Well done

    1. Lil Endian
      Coat

      Re: How do you like your astronaut?

      It could be depressing, but sometimes it's good to toast the idea of being blue...

      1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

        Re: How do you like your astronaut?

        "Luckily, it occurred between the Apollo 16 and 17 missions when nobody was on the moon."

        Well ,indeed, but even were astronauts on the moon, there is always the Command Module Pilot orbiting the moon. One the moon's surface they might be able to hid behind a rock, but the orbiting craft could only change attitude to shield the Command Module with the booster, if not shielded by the Moon itself. Not a a happy thought.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

    Only 73 such [GLE] events have been detected since the 1940s -- So, on average, a little under once a year. For a typical ISS stay of six months, about a 50/50 change of exposure to a GLE.

    Lunar explorers could have been hit by up to 10 gray worth of radiation if they were unlucky enough to be subjected to a coronal mass ejection event in August 1972. -- If this is true, and assuming this single instance is for an 80 year period of measurement, sending humans into space is incredibly risky.

    1. Lil Endian

      ...sending humans into space is incredibly risky.

      I get the risks are compounded, but a lack of oxygen seems fairly risky to me on its own - just a little speck of debris travelling at v to the wrong place at the wrong time...

      Anyhoo, when Zapp Brannigan's in charge, every mission is a suicide mission.

    2. Paul Cooper

      Re: Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

      And the Carrington Event in 1852 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event) would have probably destroyed most satellites in orbit by frying the electronics. NASA simply state that it would be impractical to shield satellites against an event of that magnitude.

      1. sitta_europea Silver badge

        Re: Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

        "...the Carrington Event in 1852 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event) would have probably destroyed most satellites in orbit by frying the electronics..."

        It would fry quite a lot of stuff on the ground too.

        See the article for reports of telegraph operators getting shocks from their equipment, and one of operators working a link for two hours without the batteries connected.

        I suspect that something similar to the Carrington Event happening now would send society back to the 1930s.

        Looking on the bright side, most modern weaponry would probably be destroyed.

        But you could forget about the Internet for at least a few years.

        1. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
          Unhappy

          Re: Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

          Quote

          "But you could forget about the Internet for at least a few years."

          You could forget about everything connected to the electrical grid.

          We just dont have the capacity to build the number of transformers/switchgear that would be fried by a carrington.

          So essential isolated power only until fuel for the gennies runs out. after that.....

          And to consider that upto 150 yrs ago, we would have looked at the lights in the sky, muttered something about divine something or other and gone back to sleep

          1. Lil Endian

            Re: Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

            I'm sure I wouldn't like to be airborne in a fly-by-wire plane at the time of such an incident!

            I found this an interesting read, from EarthSky: How likely is another Carrington Event? Following "proper" scientific form, there's no unsupported declaration of any certainty of knowledge :)

        2. Fred Daggy Silver badge
          Pint

          Re: Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

          So ... um, what's the downside?

    3. Paul Kinsler

      Re: Nobody could have predicted the Tsunami

      Predicting space weather - or trying to - is quite the popular topic these days; e.g. the UK's SWIMMR project -

      https://www.ralspace.stfc.ac.uk/Pages/SWIMMR.aspx

  5. Lurko

    Insert your own "50 shades of gray" joke below

    <the floor is your's>

  6. aregross

    ZAP

    Reminds me of the book 'Space' by James Michner where the astronauts were belted with a CME. I wish I knew where my original hard copy is now.

    1. DJV Silver badge

      Re: ZAP

      I remember reading something similar about 4 astronauts getting zapped. One of them got a bit stretchy, another had a hot flush, the third got his rocks on and the final one, well she just felt a bit faint.

      1. Ashto5

        Re: ZAP

        4 of them wow that’s fantastic.

  7. Hurn

    Stick to a singe unit of measure

    Roentgens to REM (Roentgens Equivalent, Man) to Sieverts to Grays to <What's_next?>

    Could someone pick a unit of measure, and stick with it, fer Christ's sake?

    Legal limits for workers: 5 REM per calendar year, not to exceed 3 REM per calendar quarter - 10 CFR 20

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Stick to a singe unit of measure

      Are you sure that those units all measure the same thing?

      https://news.mit.edu/2011/explained-radioactivity-0328

  8. PeterM42
    WTF?

    In my day.....

    ionising radiation was measured in Rontgens, recently it seems to be Sieverts. So what with these "Grays"?????

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