back to article Ambulance patient records system hauled offline for cyber-attack probe

Several UK NHS ambulance organizations have been struggling to record patient data and pass it to other providers following a cyber-attack aimed at health software company Ortivus. In a statement, the Sweden-headquartered software vendor said it was subject to a cyber-attack on July 18 which hit UK customer systems within its …

  1. Valeyard


    meanwhile anyone with a radio can still just livestream unencrypted pager calls to and from ambulances

    1. Handlebars

      Re: pagers

      We managed for years with unencrypted two way radio and paper records. This attack is a pain but not a crisis.

      1. FlamingDeath Silver badge

        Re: pagers

        This is what happens when industrialists see dollar symbols, the aim is to make as much money as possible and be damned with the caveats.

        Lowest possible common denominator, every single time

    2. FlamingDeath Silver badge

      Re: pagers

      Yeah but are they?

      You do know what an attack surface is, right?

      1. Valeyard

        Re: pagers

        are they what sorry? unencrypted?

        Of course they are, I've viewed the text in my terminal hooked up to a budget yaesu*. The attack surface is hard to define when you quite literally pluck personal data out of thin air, I'm in eastern England and saw messages between ambulances and hospitals in Northern Ireland as it's centralised nationally. Another chap webcast them but got into trouble for distributing it. Fun fact; it shares the same system as what bird watchers use, so without any filter you get death then a rare bird spotted on a pub roof and back again. They have the same level of security as open public birdwatching comms.

        *would not recommend, it's fairly depressing seeing people in trouble with no followup on how they did, can't imagine how ambulance personnel deal with that

  2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

    Several UK NHS ambulance organizations

    Several? Only two were named in the article. Do we know who the others are or has that information not been released yet? The Beeb report listed the same two Ambulance Services but only said two were affected, no hint of which, if any, others might have been affected.

    1. easytoby

      Re: Several UK NHS ambulance organizations

      "South Central Ambulance Service Trust attends incidents in Oxfordshire, Berkshire, Hampshire and Buckinghamshire, along with non-emergency coverage for Sussex and Surrey.

      South Western Ambulance Service Foundation Trust covers Bristol, Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire and the Isles of Scilly."

      1. moonhaus

        Re: Several UK NHS ambulance organizations

        "Several" means more than two.

      2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Several UK NHS ambulance organizations

        Yeah, I agree. That's two named organisation, thanks for that.

  3. moonhaus

    "Before the system can be brought into operation it has to be approved and verified by an independent actor".

    Is Hugh Laurie available?

    1. FlamingDeath Silver badge

      That’ll be the Hopeless Office then

  4. FlamingDeath Silver badge

    Who cares about the hack

    Did the business make money?

    Thats all that matters

    Don’t believe me?

    Fucking look around…

    Good bye

  5. FlamingDeath Silver badge

    Look Ma!

    I made a software

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