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US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has attempted to reset US/China relations, while also framing recent tech-related measures imposed by Beijing as inappropriate. Yellen's comments came during a four-day trip to Beijing, in which she met with Premier Li, Vice Premier He, Finance Minister Liu, People's Bank of China deputy …

  1. Peshman

    Any evidence that Huawei had any open backdoors?

    Is the US beginning to realise that what goes around comes around and potentially bites you in the arse?

    1. m4r35n357
    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Any evidence that Huawei had any open backdoors?

      No, but I would *love* to see US gear subjected to the same scrutiny - which it isn't. Strange, that..


  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Journalism and comments in China

    I wonder how generous the Chinese internal press is in relation to the issue. Are they also so liberal when giving titles to their articles or self-flagellating in the comment section.

    1. Scene it all

      Re: Journalism and comments in China

      Here is South China Morning Post article about the visit.

  3. martinusher Silver badge

    Swimmng against the tide

    Ms. Yellen is obviously in tune with the deleterious effects that anti-China fanaticism is having on the US economy and the likely long term damage but she's really a lone voice lost in a crowd of political opportunism. You can see what she's up against by simple stuff like the article referenced below where I'm typing this -- "Chinese balloon that US shot down was 'crammed' with American hardware / Blasted from the sty in February, devices never transmitted photos, videos or radar data say CSO". This is still grinding on, being referenced by journalists and politicians alike as the need for all sorts of anti-China measures even though everyone knows it was a weather balloon etc. (And, of course, we don't talk about that Illinois balloon club's balloon that was 'blasted' from the sky at the same time and especially the say that their attempts to tell 'authorities' about their toy fell on deaf ears.)

    Our government has declining credibility. The problem, like with many large organizations, mostly isn't the actual workers but a crust of ignorant management and bunch of kibitzers ("politicians") who have captured the organization for their personal enrichment. I doubt it can generate any kind of policy that's not reflexively adversarial so I don't hold out any hope for viable policies in the foreseeable future.

  4. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Tit for tat

    It is a well worn part of the geopolitical dance that when one country expels another's diplomats for spying, that the accused country will also expel spies embassy staff from the first.

    The USA therefore has no reason to act surprised when China reacts in kind to moves made against it. I am sure this was entirely expected and factored in to the pros-cons when the first anti-Chinese sanctions were proposed.

    Does anyone seriously believe that the real motivation (on both sides) is anything but protectionism?

  5. cantankerous swineherd

    the Americans wanting their own way over everything are just tiresome

  6. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "She called the conversations 'direct, substantive, and productive' "

    Somehow, I doubt that a discussion with any Chinese diplomat is going to be substantive, much less direct.

    However, I do believe that the Chinese diplomat will definitely try to give that impression, while privately smirking at the gwai loh's credulity.

  7. EricB123 Bronze badge

    Excellence in Journalism

    "When we sanction you, it's for national security. When you sanction us, that's just spiteful"

    Give Laura Dobberstein a raise please.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    There's "Us"..........and then there's "Them"...............................

    How much explanation does one need?

    - "White Hats" -- the "good guys" in Fort Meade are hacking "on our side".....

    - "Bad Guys" -- out there in China or Iran or North Korea....they are the "bad guys".......nothing they can do can possibly be OK.......

    So Stuxnet (the "good guys" hacking the "bad guys") -- yup......that's OK.............

    Now "good guys" hacking Angela Merkel's phone......maybe on the margin.......

    ....and what Edward Snowden told us.........................................surely not!!!! Must be lies!!! "Good guys" don't do any of that!!!!, in fact, EVERYONE in this charade is a BAD GUY............................

    Get over it!!!

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