And how many trojans, backdoors, keyloggers and viruses is this thing loaded with? Not going to happen!!!!
China's openKylin 1.0 arrives. Our verdict? Not a bad-looking, er, Ubuntu remix
Version 1.0 of the openKylin Linux distro for the domestic Chinese market is here – and it works pretty well in English, too. As The Reg reported last year, openKylin has been in development for some years. The FOSS desk took openKylin 0.7 for a spin soon afterwards. It reached version 0.9.5 at the start of 2023, and now the …
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Saturday 8th July 2023 10:19 GMT Roland6
Playing fast and loose with the GOL?
>” we think it's the latest UKUI 4, but it reports itself as version 1.0 in the system's Settings app.”
Does this mean the originating project(s) are not being correctly and fully recognised?
One of the benefits of accreditation is that it gives some idea of what might be compatible .
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Monday 10th July 2023 00:56 GMT doublelayer
Re: Playing fast and loose with the GOL?
Almost certainly not. All they have to do to comply with the original license is to include the license terms including the copyright statement somewhere in the system. I'm sure there's a file in /usr/share that does that. It doesn't even have to be unusual to do that, because that is what forks are likely to do; they no longer use the original name because they might make breaking changes and don't guarantee compatibility, so if this is going to be made into a new version by the Kylin team, they might have done the new version numbers to make that clearer. That doesn't guarantee that they have done what they need to, but their obligations are pretty easy to do and don't require them to produce useful compatibility statements.
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Monday 10th July 2023 14:40 GMT doublelayer
The copyright line is required and is present even when the GPL applies. The "All rights reserved" isn't required and was probably put there on autopilot by someone who has seen it after nearly every copyright line. It has relatively little meaning anyway, but when the GPL explicitly applies, it cannot counteract any of that license's provisions. Unless they've also changed the GPL, it has no effect on what the user can do. If they have replaced it, things get more complicated but we'd have to look at the specific changes.
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Monday 10th July 2023 17:02 GMT Anonymous Coward
No swapfile? No problem...
... when you have enough RAM. Which most PCs do these days.
I've not checked it, but if I were writing that installer script, it would check how much RAM you actually have and make a sensible decision as to whether or not a swap file is likely to be required.
Unless of course you want to be able to suspend to disk (not just suspend to RAM) when suspending a laptop. But that takes time, so who wants to do that these days?
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Monday 10th July 2023 17:25 GMT Liam Proven
Re: No swapfile? No problem...
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> No swapfile? No problem...
You know what? Actually, that's a fair point. On the other hand, I ran it initially in a 4 GB VM, and it did not run well at all. When I doubled that to 8 gig things got much better.
Sadly, the suspend the disk functionality seems to be broken on a lot of modern hardware, which is why Ubuntu disables it by default.
It's interesting to note that somehow, between Windows 2000 and Windows XP, Microsoft did something in windows – I don't know what — that made not only boot up and shut down much quicker, but also dramatically sped up suspend to disc and resume.
It is the nature of computer software design that once somebody has done something, usually, others can come along and recreate that with very much less work. I wish that somebody from the Linux world could recreate that acceleration in suspend and resume… but sadly I think that it is largely unused functionality these days, so it's not gonna happen.
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