Ex-FBI employee jailed for taking classified material home In a case startlingly similar to charges recently unsealed against one-term US president Donald Trump, a former FBI analyst has been jailed for taking sensitive classified material home with her. As with Trump, Kendra Kingsbury was charged under the Espionage Act. In Kingsbury's case, it was two counts of unlawfully retaining …
Let's take a look at the stats...
25,000 well-trained Wagners mercenaries, fresh from proving chops in Bakhmut. Well-travelled veterans of civil wars including Syria, Libya and the Central African Republic. Equipped with Russian Army surplus on a good day, blood-soaked battlefield salvage on a bad day
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250 Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights (FOAK!), sporting awkward Proud Boys face tats. Equipped with Home Depot full-face respirators, hockey sticks, and rebel yell
@FF22
".. belongs in orange suit."
Why? Assume guilt because his opposition says so? There are some interesting stories coming out at the moment about the Bidens and the collaboration in the FBI/DOJ. Do we bother with a trial or shall we just throw them all in the same cell?
@Jim Mitchell
"Those President Biden stories all seem to lack substance or verifiable evidence behind them."
Eh? Guess you may want to check the latest news or even white house briefings where difficult questions about Joe and his son being more than a bit dishonest and whistle-blowers with evidence of FBI and DOJ corruption and interference. Joe lying about his business dealings as Hunter tells the Chinese his father is next to him by whatsapp text.
Sounds like whataboutism to me.
Joe and Hunter may or may not be dodgy - does that make Trump less so?
If itwas anyone else, they would be looking at 20years with Republicans being the first to denounce them. Because it's Trump, it's all OK, just a witch hunt and nothing to see here. Double standards maybe?
@genghis_uk
"Sounds like whataboutism to me."
Sure does but FF22 is the one who moved off the FBI agent and onto the 'orange man'.
"Joe and Hunter may or may not be dodgy - does that make Trump less so?"
Actually yes. This is the scary proposition that the hatred against Trump and continued unfounded attacks is the reason some people have such a hatred. Remember this kicked off with a fabricated dossier and illegal actions against him by the security services. Hunters troubles stem from having his taxes being investigated as an offshoot of another probe (Hunter was not targeted) and leaving a laptop containing evidence of crimes. This brought about denials of wrongdoing or even awareness from Joe of his sons activities which evidence seems to show otherwise (Hunter texting the Chinese and stating his father is in the room) and whistle-blowers coming forward concerning the interference protecting the Bidens, even accusing of lawbreaking! One particular claim I am keeping an eye on is the Bidens lawyers being told of in advance of agents coming to investigate evidence materials held by the Bidens.
"If itwas anyone else, they would be looking at 20years with Republicans being the first to denounce them"
So again it should be guilty without bothering with the law? Trump through various accusations has been denounced by Democrat and Republicans, you might remember he became president after taking on both parties battling against him.
"Double standards maybe?"
Absolute double standards that seem to be finally coming out.
Hunter texting the Chinese and stating his father is in the room
Is this the Whatsapp date-stamped when Biden Senior held no public office?
From January to December 2017, Joe Biden did not hold any political offices. During that period, Joe Biden was a private citizen after leaving the vice presidency on January 20, 2017, following the end of the Obama administration. He did not hold any elected or appointed political positions in 2017.
Boy, the schmucks really fell for this one. Ha ha ha.
@AC
"From January to December 2017, Joe Biden did not hold any political offices. During that period, Joe Biden was a private citizen after leaving the vice presidency on January 20, 2017, following the end of the Obama administration. He did not hold any elected or appointed political positions in 2017."
Hang on a minute... so are you now saying Joe Biden is a liar and did know about Hunters business dealings. Denials Joe made because people were questioning how connected to his sons 'activities' Joe was. And so I wonder how the investigation of the laptop is going and if this will lead to any further questions concerning the 'big guy'.
"Boy, the schmucks really fell for this one. Ha ha ha."
For some reason you seem to be looking at your comment as some kind of win when you appear to be scoring an own goal.
If he has done something wrong and a grand jury indicts him, or if the Republicans actually make a impeachment case against him that isn't absolute horseshit. Well, yeah I wont't be voting for him or lose my god-damn mind about it.
But the court of public opinion isn't really interesting to me, because I don't care about Biden himself nor am I interested in rumor-mill, school-age gossip. I am not emotionally attached to Biden or being right about Biden. Biden is human, I am human. I may have made a mistake about voting for him. But that doesn't nullify my position on Trump's indictment, my belief that Trump is a criminal, or my preference of political policies. Those are all separate issues.
@DrSunshine0104
"If he has done something wrong and a grand jury indicts him, or if the Republicans actually make a impeachment case against him that isn't absolute horseshit. Well, yeah I wont't be voting for him or lose my god-damn mind about it."... "But the court of public opinion isn't really interesting to me, because I don't care about Biden himself nor am I interested in rumor-mill, school-age gossip."..."But that doesn't nullify my position on Trump's indictment, my belief that Trump is a criminal, or my preference of political policies."
That last quote where you believe Trump is criminal because you just believe whatever vs the first 2 I quote (or even your comment before the last quote) is exactly the problem. Biden would need to be proven to be criminal to you. You assume Trump is criminal just because. I point out the two are treated differently in investigation which is clear to see but also Trump is just assumed criminal while Biden is not.
I am watching the latest revelations as this could turn very quickly on Biden
I feel like I will be talking to brick wall but...
As implied by the line of logic in my previous post. Trump's alleged crimes have had a grand jury, evidence and an indictment. If Biden has committed crimes and the same procedure is used, I won't really have a problem with it.
As far as my belief that Trump is a criminal... I mean Trump has no compulsion against admitting his crimes in writing or on tape, so it isn't a difficult stroll to arrive to that Trump committed crimes.
@DrSunshine0104
"I feel like I will be talking to brick wall but..."
Of course you do. You are repeating that you believe Trump is a criminal, because you believe so. And dont care at all about Biden so expect due process.
"Trump's alleged crimes have had a grand jury, evidence and an indictment"
At least you know its alleged. Remember all the alleged crimes people believed against him even with fabricated evidence?
"As far as my belief that Trump is a criminal... I mean Trump has no compulsion against admitting his crimes in writing or on tape, so it isn't a difficult stroll to arrive to that Trump committed crimes."
So again you are happy to take a snippet of limited information and assume crime. He is being accused so you assume he is criminal?
All conspiracies theories fall into this paradox. The people behind the curtain are simultaneously the ultimate masterminds but also complete dunces that are obviously corrupt. There is so much evidence of their corruption but only bring forward the silliest evidence like Hunter's laptop, or complete hearsay.
He is actually Slippery Joe DiBiden? While pretending to be a more-or-less harmless slightly senile old man, he is actually a super-smart con-man who is 10 steps ahead of everyone?
Big question: is it Kamela Harris or Jill Biden that is actually Angelina? Or are they still hating Hillary Clinton enough to cast her in that role?
@Robert 22
"It is curious how Republicans would have you believe that Biden is senile and clueless while, at the same time, being a criminal mastermind who has pulled off all kinds of crimes without leaving a trace of evidence."
From my limited knowledge of such opinions I dont think they see him as a criminal mastermind, just a criminal protected by the security services. They seem to see him as senile and clueless with a criminal son and protected from the law. Something not helped by the laptop cover-up and Hunters plea deal. Add the Twitter revelations and recent whistle blowers with evidence and that opinion starts to look a bit like another one of those conspiracy theories that turns out to be true. We will see.
Thee is the matter of evidence. Moreover, Trump has thoroughly incriminated himself with a series of nonsensical and often contradictory excuses and claims. Anybody else who took sensitive documents and refused to return them when requested would have quickly found themselves in jail.
Why?
Because he's on tape admitting to his and his Diet-Coke guy's crimes?
But hey, let's wait for the trial. Or more likely the deal. Maybe his lawyers will roll out a Chewbacca Defence ...
He won't serve any jail time, because it isn't practical to put a former president who is under 24x7 secret service protection in jail. He'd have to be segregated from the rest of the population to the extent that it would be cheaper to build a jail for just him.
I expect he would serve house arrest of some sort. Hopefully with a "no computers" so we don't have to listen to him whine like a crybaby over his fate on his lame Twitter clone. If they really want to punish him, he'd be at Maralago but not be allowed to play golf.
Imprisonment is done even when it costs society more money than the convicts make back working as slaves on the chain gang. "Isn't practical" is not an excuse for having a double standard justice system. Since general population would be to high a risk for the imprisoned individual, any President would have to be in solitary confinement, for his own good. The American prison-industrial complex is a tough bitch.
And getting past any security on the WiFi connection as well. Unless, of course, the government is hosting open WiFi networks, in which case it makes sense.
More likely the smart watches do nothing when simply turned on. The problem is the social engineered targets cannot resist attaching them to their devices, and then it is game over.
The problem I have is getting my 'smart watch' (running / fitness watch with GPS and pulse monitor) to connect to the GPS satellites and then my phone so I can download the latest depressing facts about my level of unfitness. OK, so it would probably be better if I actually kept the thing charged up. I guess that as I am nothing whatsoever to do with defence / defense, government or industry any more I am unlikely to receive a freebie, but just in case, could I have an orange one, please? (USB drives not welcome, though, even I am not completely stupid all the time.)
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