back to article Microsoft Azure OpenAI lets enterprises feed corporate secrets to ChatGPT

Microsoft wants to make it easier for enterprises to feed their proprietary data, along with user queries, into OpenAI's GPT-4 or ChatGPT within Azure and see the results. This functionality, available as a public preview via the Azure OpenAI Service, eliminates the need for training or fine-tuning your own generative AI …

  1. Mark Allen

    Turn it off?

    But how do you turn this stuff off? Any geek tools out there yet that can do this for us?

    Why is there no off switch on this ChatGPT stuff? Surly this is breaking all kinds of data protection laws?

    I keep finding AI.exe running on client machines. Which comically is then flagged by AMD Gaming Tools as "Alien Isolation has been running for 8 hours...."

    I just want to turn it off as I will not use it. Seems a simple request.

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Turn it off?

      You have been identified as divergent and reported to the proper authorities. Please remain seated until the dispatched corrective crew arrives and treats your ailments.

      Thank you for using our products. We'd never want you to feel bad. Please stay with the program.

      1. Mark Allen
        Black Helicopters

        Re: Turn it off?

        Argh - the one time I forget to hit the "post anonymously" switch...

    2. Zippy´s Sausage Factory

      Re: Turn it off?

      By the sound of it you have to add the data to Azure Cognitive Search first (which bears a remarkable resemblance to Apache Lucene that I'm sure is entirely coincidental *cough*)

      So unless you're using ACS already I guess now might be a good time to stop?

    3. NoneSuch Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Turn it off?

      You have opted out of making Microsoft payments. There is, of course, a small monthly 'opt-out' fee to cover the costs of you not paying Microsoft anything that will be charged on the first of each month.

      1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
        Linux

        Re: You have opted out of making Microsoft payments

        Please... call it what it really is...

        A monthly TITHE to the Lords of the Manor (aka Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Apple etc)

        It can be paid in cash or in the huge amounts of data that they will willingly suck from our computers.

        Oh wait...

        They are not our computer even if we paid good money for them especially, if they run Windows. MS can f'k with them to their hearts contents and NOT get sued into oblivion for doing so.

        Linux used to be a safe haven but even parts of that are falling to the corporate megalords (SITH). SNAP packages anyone?

  2. cookieMonster Silver badge
    Trollface

    This is going to be so much fun

    When this is rolled out to the general population ( those who complain that the “internet is broke, again”) all kinds of hilarity will follow.

    The reg will be ideally placed to “profit” from AI

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: This is going to be so much fun

      What do you mean "when"? It is already running in Office apps today... and the "Bing search highlights" has been chugging away for a while now.

  3. thondwe

    Law of unintended consequences

    Do these systems respect internal corporate security boundaries?

    Pile in your in corporate data - ask interesting questions - get "interesting" answers that you're not supposed to be privy too? Or are even right?

    Anyone else looking at AI as a Nutrimatic Drinks Despenser - outputs almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.?

    1. MacroRodent

      Re: Law of unintended consequences

      Given that most large corporations already keep their crown jewels in Microsoft's cloud (Azure and O365 or whatever it is called today), it hardly matters.

    2. hoola Silver badge

      Re: Law of unintended consequences

      The answer will be a resounding NO!

      Everything to do with this sort of information gathering is for one purpose only, to make money for those who gather it.

      That so many people willingly just let it be gathered is part of the problem. It is now accepted that the "normal" is pretty much everything you don on any sort of device connected the internet it harvested.

      Most people will not turn off all the typing monitoring "to improve stuff".

      Even on corporate devices it is very hard to stop the data gathering entirely as everything has Internet access now because so many tools are "as a service".

    3. Howard Sway Silver badge

      Re: Law of unintended consequences

      Come on, security boundaries are just a hindrance to unleashing the miraculous power of AI and big data!

      Until someone types in "how much does my boss earn?" and all hell breaks loose.......

      1. GruntyMcPugh

        Re: Law of unintended consequences

        "how much does my boss earn?" Oh, as a computer operator I knew that, because we used to print the payslips. They were multipart and the outer later got inked, and the inner got carboned, then the outer was split off. I happened to stop the printer to check the alignment (it was tight, had to get all the text aligned in the boxes and we used to stop and check the run in case it needed correction) and I stopped it on the bosses slip. He was doing well, back in the early 90s.

  4. ecofeco Silver badge

    WTF?

    This can't be real.

    Oh wait.... Of course it is. Cuz these are stupid times.

  5. NoneSuch Silver badge

    Just Sat Through An Azure Open AI Presentation

    Their unimpressive demo had a limited data subset that you replicate in 45 min with any programming language of your choice.

    The most used phrase by Microsoft staff was "additional cost."

    They didn't spend 10 billion as a gift to users. This is a business investment they want to make a profit on. You'll eventually be paying for each submission and response. Very limited business application.

    https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/pricing/details/cognitive-services/openai-service/

  6. tiggity Silver badge

    Expensive

    That option of storing your (siloed) data for OpenAI use is also staggeringly expensive compared to their usual AI offerings.

    If you want to keep your data safer (who knows how secure the data silo approach is) but still use OpenAI could generate embeddings values for your text items (embedding and text values stored locally in some DB system, just use OpenAI* to generate embeddings) and then use embeddings best matches for scenarios such as "AI" driven help bot... Results wont be as good as the "chat" driven solution on your siloed data but will keep your data safe (text you request an embedding for is not saved / used in model training).

    *.Or go one step further and just use some other locally running software to calculate the embeddings

    OpenAI embeddings stuff here

    https://openai.com/blog/introducing-text-and-code-embeddings

  7. Plest Silver badge
    Mushroom

    This is not going to end well

    So we've just had one of biggest TITSIPs(tm) in yonk with the MoveIT fiasco releasing tons of into the wild, and now MS and their ilk are prepared to take on even more data all in the name of "offering freedom and choice" ( meanwhile making a bomb of their shareholders ).

    Yeah, I have a very bad feeling we're long overdue for some sort of apocalyptic event....3....2...

  8. Rich 2 Silver badge

    “…many enterprises are integrating ChatGPT into their operational flow

    Re title - why??? What the hell do they get out of it?

    All the examples seem to relate to finding stuff. If you can’t remember where you put something then maybe invest in a notepad? If it’s stuff generated by your colleagues then either ask them or invest in organising your company’s stuff better

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: “…many enterprises are integrating ChatGPT into their operational flow

      I've yet to be impressed by any demonstration of an LLM that I've seen, and I've seen quite a few (particularly in papers and articles; I haven't wasted my own time with the things). Sure, they can produce banal natural text, and pulp-style illustrations, and other not-especially-good output, but the only actual utility I've seen is LLMs doing mediocre work for people too lazy to do better.

      I've studied NLP as part of one of my degree programs and done some other ML work, and I've read quite a few of the LLM-related papers. I simply don't find unidirectional-transformer architectures or their results exciting. It's an inelegant, resource-intensive approach that's producing relatively little in the way of actually interesting new results, particularly given the massive hype and drooling excitement from the fans.

      I'm not a big fan of deep-learning approaches in general – again, awesomely resource-intensive for the result, and not producing enough in the way of surprising results or new insights – but at least models like EfficientZero were trying to do something more novel than "throw a fuckton of hardware and data at the thing, optimize for shiny, and who cares what precision or recall or other metrics look like".

  9. druck Silver badge
    Devil

    As the saying goes around here...

    Training data:
    • are NOT available to other customers.
    • are NOT available to OpenAI.
    • are NOT used to improve OpenAI models.
    • are NOT used to improve any Microsoft or 3rd party products or services.
    • are NOT used for automatically improving Azure OpenAI models for your use in your resource

    ...if you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you. This is hosted on Azure after all.

    And shouldn't are be is? Although data is a plural, that just looks so wrong.

    1. Nick Ryan Silver badge

      Re: As the saying goes around here...

      While I'm happy to bash Microsoft, and currently I'd like to bash a lot of their "developers" with big, blunt or even pointy things (gah... ) I do have to admit that the statement made above is, for once, very clear and concise.

      It doesn't address siloing of the data within an organisation, or even if that's possible, but it's a pretty strong statement. I'd rather that they were a little more explicit though, for example "none of the data is accessible in any way outside of the controlling organisation and the controlling organisation can delete and manage this data in any way they need to".

    2. uqrxur

      Re: As the saying goes around here...

      "And shouldn't are be is?"

      Yes, it should. But hey, we are long past the times during which we are supposed to speak/write correctly.

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