back to article We just don't get enough time, contractor tasked with fact-checking Google Bard tells us

Workers tasked with improving the output of Google's Bard chatbot say they've been told to focus on working fast at the expense of quality. Bard sometimes generates inaccurate information simply because there isn't enough time for these fact checkers to verify the software's output, one of those workers told The Register. …

  1. xanadu42

    If they want a flawed product, that's on them

    Terminator...

    1. ThatOne Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: If they want a flawed product, that's on them

      They don't want a flawed product, they want a cheap one.

      Reminder: Profit = Money earned - Money spent...

      1. ecofeco Silver badge

        Re: If they want a flawed product, that's on them

        Dollar Store terminators?

        Yeah, I can see that.

  2. jmch Silver badge

    Subverted use case??

    Google's origin and raison d'etre as a search engine seems to have been turned upside down. It used to be that if I type "what are the side effects of drug X?", or "who is Mr Y?", I would get back multiple links to source material that I can easily find. If necessary I can quickly cross-check multiple sources. Inserting an LLM in between is of zero utility if I anyway have to crosscheck the output with a different source. Even worse if the LLM is unable to direct me to the source material (which it can't ever do because of how it works).

    Bard, Chat-GPT etc etc are also pre-trained, meaning they are immediately out of date (therefore useless on current or recent events), and require gigantic amounts of processing power to deliver a search result that can be generated much more easily by a search engine's indexed search. While LLMs could be useful for generating (bland, grammatically correct but possibly inaccurate) sections of text, they are pretty useless as a search engine replacement.

    1. bo111

      Re: Subverted use case??

      I find value in generated summaries before digging into specific URLs

      1. sabroni Silver badge

        Re: I find value in generated summaries before digging into specific URLs

        That's your call. To me those summaries are just word salad and I'd rather they weren't there pretending to summarise the article.

    2. FrogsAndChips Silver badge

      Re: Subverted use case??

      Bard, Chat-GPT etc etc are also pre-trained, meaning they are immediately out of date

      That's incorrect in the case of Bard, which can access the internet to search for information and isn't limited to its training data.

  3. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

    "While LLMs could be useful for generating (bland, grammatically correct but possibly inaccurate) sections of text, they are pretty useless as a search engine replacement."

    This! chatGPT is great for turning out outlines that you might then edit - much easier than writing it all from scratch, sometimes it comes up with angles I haven't thought of, even. In its own way it is very useful.

    But it isn't a search engine, and I can't see the point in trying to use it as one.

  4. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Unhappy

    It was great for a while

    But the Internet is being destroyed by the likes of Google, Facebook, et al.

    Just on search alone, I've noticed a steady decline in relevance of results to my queries.

    1. ThatOne Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: It was great for a while

      Unfortunately "relevance" has long stopped being relevant (yes, ironic, I know). "Profitability" is the one and only goal now.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It was great for a while

      One of the quality issues is due to PageRank itself. Early days people used to link to quality pages. Then SEO happened and shit hit the fan with scammers occupying the top results. Also search engines consider most links as likes, which is incorrect. For example some news sites link to disinformation sites just for reference, but this pushes them up in the search results. There should be a "dislike" link type (a href). But this would be too complicated.

      1. CommonBloke
        Unhappy

        Re: It was great for a while

        It really sucks that our best bets for making the internet not suck again is having curated lists of sites, not unlike what "the internet" looked like back in '97, with portals such as Yahoo.

        The problem, of course, is that such lists are bound to suffer enshitfication on the long term, because sooner or later, the place will be sold off or run by an a-hole who only cares about profits.

      2. katrinab Silver badge
        Windows

        Re: It was great for a while

        There is such a tag:

        a rel=“nofollow” href=“…”

    3. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: It was great for a while

      Same here. Search results are often so far off the mark as to be useless.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It was great for a while

      ^^This 100%^^

      I am sure many of us here rely on search engines to drill down to very specific information, preferably recent information and not deprecated crap.

      Using “advanced” search flags such as exclusion, and it fucking ignores it.

      Cunts

  5. Dom 3

    Plausible nonsense

    Or as someone I know put it: it's not "give me an answer to this question" it's "give me something that looks like an answer to this question".

    Fun can be had asking for recipes involving random ingredients.

  6. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

    Maybe they should just

    Employ and train reliable professional human researchers to BE "Google Bard", without the so-called "AI".

  7. doublelayer Silver badge

    More correct business saying

    Time, money, quality – if you admit which one you're giving up and work for it, you can have any two. If you don't take this active point, you can have any one. I have seen way too many businesses that could have had two except they weren't very good at prioritizing, so they only got one of them. For example, they could have opted for money and time, but they spent a lot of time talking about but not getting quality, so they ended up with only money. It didn't always end well.

  8. ecofeco Silver badge

    Contractors?

    I think I see the problem already.

    Contractors are often treated like crap. In this case I'm guessing no better than jobbers at mechanical turks.

    Remember that?

  9. Snowy Silver badge
    Coat

    Fast, accurate, cheap

    You can only pick two!

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That explains getting partly correct results, because that's what Bard was trained to do.

  11. find users who cut cat tail

    > Bard spewing incorrect information on politicians, for example, could sway people's opinions on elections and undermine democracy.

    And we can't have that. What would then [other] politicians be for?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      To be fair, slogans painted on the side of a bus has the same effect.

      People are thick as mud

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "They just try their best to emulate us humans from our own work."

    Nothing even near. 'AI' has no concept of intelligence and it's as useful as word salad spewing CEO: That's all it can do.

    1. very angry man

      "They just try their best to emulate us humans from our own work."

      Humans at work? What an interesting thing to try and copy. How do you work in coffee breaks , smoko brakes, staring out the window time, watercooler chates, windging about the boss, wife, traffic, time till knock off, week end,oh and toilet breaks, food brakes, and then there are the meetings, time spent in the bosses office, also Time when he's there, there's so much more that humans do that is non productive (but required for creativeity) AI seems to have creativity down pat, all we have to do is add errors and omissions, and a 10000% slowdown, oh and a union.

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