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Border Force, Australia's law enforcement agency for immigration matters, has fined a pair of companies for exploiting techies who came to work under a temporary visa scheme aimed at addressing skills shortages. That Temporary Skill Shortage (TSS) scheme requires employers to sponsor visiting workers, and obliges them to …

  1. PhilipN Silver badge

    "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

    I would have enjoyed writing that line too :-)

    1. Sampler

      Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

      Come now Simon, it's not just the deadly creatures, but the deadly fauna too (gympie gympie I'm looking at you), the deadly sky and then when you want to cool off the deadly water (rips) and its contents (sharks, jellyfish, stonefish, rays etc..).

      They should advertise it to techies as "Want to level up? Come play on hard mode.."..

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

        but the deadly fauna too (gympie gympie I'm looking at you)

        You have plants that are so nasty they're classed as animals?! Fuck, now I'm scared...

        Feed me Seymour! Feed me!

        1. Ignazio

          Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

          That would have been the deadly flora, but the rabbits are worse.

          1. Korev Silver badge
            Coat

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            > That would have been the deadly flora

            I thought it was supposed to be healthier than butter...

          2. OhForF' Silver badge
            Devil

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            "the rabbits are worse"

            and still ABF take issue with travelers importing the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch for self defense.

          3. StuartMcL

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            But nobody mention the dropbears!

          4. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            My favourite is Carukia barnesii, a jellyfish, body the size of a fingernail, tentacles a bit like spider webs. You can't tell when they contact you, until the excruciating pain kicks in, usually about ten minutes after you get out of the water.

            People have been documented to

            - have died on the beach from the pain alone

            - be still crying through the ET tube after anaesthesia is induced

            - stop breathing from the opioids before pain relief was achieved

            Where on the Aussie coast might you find it? The top half.

      2. gryphon

        Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

        Did the great Terry Pratchett not make reference to certain non-dangerous creatures in the great continent of XXXX.

        To quote Wikipedia

        "XXXX is also called the Terror Incognita. Almost all animals and plants in XXXX are dangerous; when Death requested a book about the dangerous creatures of XXXX from his library, he was subsequently hit by a large pile of books consisting of the various volumes of "Dangerous Mammals, Reptiles, Amphibians, Birds, Fish, Jellyfish, Insects, Spiders, Crustaceans, Grasses, Trees, Mosses and Lichens of Terror Incognita", the total books going up to Volume 29C Part 3, while a request for information about the harmless creatures merely produced a note saying "Some of the sheep". The land is inhospitable because the flora and fauna all hate you"

        Even in suburban Sydney my sister finds dangerous spiders all the time.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

      While true from a recent (English) history point of view, it’s insensitive to 60,000 years of the indigenous people’s existence.

      The land is much older and more nuanced than many think.

      1. ArrZarr Silver badge
        Headmaster

        Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

        While I'll grant you the insensitivity point, the fact that Oz was a Prison Colony for a chunk of the last 200 years is a statement of fact.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

          And you don't need a criminal record to get in anymore!

          1. Ken Shabby Bronze badge

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            It is not recommended when asked by the ABF as you enter the country if you have a criminal record to reply

            “I didn’t think it was still compulsory”

          2. very angry man

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            No, but it helps

        2. Mike 137 Silver badge

          Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

          "the fact that Oz was a Prison Colony for a chunk of the last 200 years is a statement of fact

          A tiny part of Oz was used as prison colony. The rest, where inhabited at all, was occupied for the previous several millennia (and concurrently) by the indigenous people. It's all a question of perspective, and "Oz was a Prison Colony" seems a rather 'colonial' one. It reminds me of what Sellar and Yeatman said: "The Roman Conquest was, however, a Good Thing, since the Britons were only natives at that time." 1

          1: W.C. Sellar & R.J. Yeatman, 1066 and all that, Methuen, London, 1930.

          1. Insert sadsack pun here

            Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

            "It's all a question of perspective, and "Oz was a Prison Colony" seems a rather 'colonial' one."

            Yes, exactly, I'm glad someone made this point. The prison colonies were tiny and short-lived: most of them failed after a couple of years, and even the "successful" larger ones were only in existence for 50-60 years. Compare that to Australia's 120 year existence as a modern state, and the thousands of years of indigenous life beforehand, and it does like a particularly perverse perspective to emphasize one colonial aspect...

            ...and added to that, it's just hacky.

        3. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

          Re: "the plethora of deadly creatures found in the one-time prison colony"

          Australia > Sydney + Hobart + Norfolk Island.

          It's also technically accurate to describe Britannia as a former outpost of the Italian Empire, until they got sick of the food and couldn't be bothered defending it any more. No wonder Scotland and Wales are looking for the exits.

          Just keep giving out OBEs, as if the BE was still a thing.

  2. Potemkine! Silver badge

    ""Everybody working in Australia has the right to be paid properly, including workers who are holders of sponsored visas,", or else the exploiters will get a small slap on the wrist. Beware!

    1. Gene Cash Silver badge

      They didn't even dare to name the companies.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Because now they have been banned from using the scheme in future they have all been forced to change their names and relaunch as brand new innocent companies

  3. DaemonProcess

    Sport

    You forgot to mention a land of inferior cricket :-)))

    and rugby

    don't go near Aussie rules either, that's no-rules violence.

    1. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch Silver badge

      Re: Sport

      (giving away a free kick for high contact)

    2. ssharwood

      Re: Sport

      Bring on The Ashes. Which our men’s and women’s team both hold. And the women have thrashed all

      Comers for years. But yeah the Wallabies are woeful.

  4. The Central Scrutinizer

    Yeah Yeah everything here wants to kill you.... blah blah.

    I haven't been hit by a drop bear or hoop snake in years.... baha.

  5. TimMaher Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Nobody tell the medics.

    UK medics seem to really like Oz. Better pay, better hours, less stress, nice barbies, etc.

    1. Bebu
      Megaphone

      Re: Nobody tell the medics.

      Don't worry they already know.

      We cannot process the skilled migration visas fast enough.

      With the usually creapy-crawlies and some of the nastier plants no one mentioned the devastating bush fires or disastrous floods (even in one season.) The floods can bring the crocadiles and trying to escape the fires might feed the sharks :)

      This last week we learnt that "Dropbears" were a thing a few million years ago as were tree climbing crocadiles.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-20/drop-bears-crocs-eastern-australia-millions-of-years-ago-unsw/102360948

      If you can avoid being envenomed, bitten, burnt, drowned or eaten it is a great place. Wide choice of climate - tropical through cool temperate and mediterranean alhough you have move while its changing.

      A plentiful supply of a large variety of fresh food is available all year round - no one has to eat turnips (and not many do. :)

      While we have our fair share of nutters and outright raving loonies at least most of ours don't have guns and are not overrepresented in our parliaments.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Nobody tell the medics.

        >We cannot process the skilled migration visas fast enough.

        Funny how the successful economies are rushing to attract skilled workers from all over the world while the ones tettering on recession are desperately trying to reduce the number of legal immigrants.

        I wonder if there is any correlation ?

        >tree climbing crocadiles

        Probably trying to get away from all the dangerous animals on the land and in the water

        1. StuartMcL

          Re: Nobody tell the medics.

          What part of "skilled workers" don't you understand?

  6. sketharaman

    Going by USA, UK, Germany, etc., the foreign workers on visa know what they're signing up for and will happily work at the underpaid wages. The ones really being exploited are the local workers who are replaced by cheaper foreign workers basis an immigration policy that purports to prevent any pay disparity.

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