back to article Zoho creates browser with 'Open Season Mode' for when you don't care about privacy

India's Zoho has decided the world needs a more secure and private browser, so has created one called Ulaa. Zoho offers a personal productivity suite, but is best known for its CRM and for offering over 50 business applications that can link in an ERP-like – or perhaps ERP-lite – manner. The prices are very attractive compared …

  1. Giles C Silver badge

    Simple question - why would anyone use the open season mode - unless you are developing the sort of software that needs this to run.....

    If so it is a strange market to aim for - virus and malware coders?

    1. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Probably because you comes across shitty web sites that actually depend on tracking stuff to simply work. And sadly they might be your bank, or even gov department, and so you don't have much choice but to bend over for those specific cases.

      1. b0llchit Silver badge

        Time to find a new bank or a new government then...

      2. brotherelf

        My bank's fraud detection mechanisms are a much more legitimate reason than, say, ElReg's Google Ads IMO, but YMMV.

    2. ThatOne Silver badge
      Devil

      > why would anyone use the open season mode

      Obviously because they don't know they're using it, or even what it is!

      Most people are no IT specialists, they barely even know their browser's brand, they just "click on stuff" to get to the 2-3 places they want to go. Put them once on Open Season, and they will gleefully keep using it till kingdom come...

      To put it differently, those privacy features are most likely just a marketing stunt. Probably locked in the proverbial lavatory.

      1. OhForF' Silver badge

        Probably locked in the proverbial lavatory.

        You obviously meant in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the leopard'

        1. ThatOne Silver badge
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          I did, but considered it useless to elaborate.

  2. Ken Hagan Gold badge

    So is it named after a D&D godess or a triumphant Martian scream?

    Sadly their FAQ was silent on the matter, even after I'd generously enabled scripting for it. (What kind of privacy-consciousness requires you to enable scripting to read its FAQ?)

    1. Frank Bitterlich

      Oh, I think you just found an actual use for Open Season mode... to read their FAQ.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Wrong order

    Following this website, the proper order is Chrome, Safari, Firefox. Edge comes after, somewhat bundled with Internet Explorer which doesn't deserve it, then you find Opera (which has .28% better share than IE).

    Of course, if you go to a different site, the figures will be entirely different, and the order can change as well.

    The one thing that doesn't change is that Chrome is always on top.

    1. captain veg Silver badge

      Re: Wrong order

      It really doesn't matter what the charts say today. For what seemed like forever IE6 ruled the roost with >90% share. Most web developers assumed that it would always be so and coded with Microsoft's deficient and/or non-standard quirks foremost, and hang the rest.

      That turned out to be a mistake.

      History repeats.

      -A.

    2. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      There is no order

      The list of browsers wasn't explicitly ordered, FWIW. This website lists in order of Chrome, Safari, Edge, Firefox, and Opera, contrary to yours. So it's kinda open ended.

      But generally Chrome leads, Safari's next, and then the rest. Kinda like AWS, then Azure, and then the rest fight over third place. I've tweaked the sentence as people seem to be taking it as an ordered list.

      C.

  4. gitignore

    Open Season

    I wonder if 'Open Season' mode will work with ancient out of band firmwares from the likes of Dell and Cisco that always trip the TLS and Java warnings? Accessing things on a private network with the security turned down would be really useful for those machines where the firmware is no longer upgradable but are otherwise perfectly good machines.

  5. MOH

    Why the headline?

    I may be completely misunderstanding this.

    But it sounds like this is a browser that's privacy-enabled by default, with an option to abandon all protection via explicit opt-in.

    Which if accurate is a good thing, or if not warrants more detailed investigative reporting.

    But if the most populous nation on the planet can be gradually weaned onto a native browser with Brave-like inbuilt protection - why is that not a good thing, and the headline?

  6. Marty McFly Silver badge
    Holmes

    A question about browser share statistics...

    How is a privacy-focused browser going to be reported in the statistics? We all know one of the tracking metrics is the browser being used. Privacy-focused browsers like to say they are something else. That would lump their metrics in with a non-privacy browser.

    I use Brave on all my endpoints (and being a techie that is a lot of them). I checked out https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ and tested my browser. Brave is reported as Chrome.

    That is great for my privacy. But it makes the statistics questionable. It is difficult to say how many privacy-focused browsers are in use when they all claim to be from the chocolate factory.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      UA reduction will make share statistics harder to gather

      This is a very valid point Marty, and it’s one which will become more pertinent over time.

      Google has been working on a new standard to force websites to explicitly request what information they actually need with the goal of dumping user agent header support entirely. The purpose of this is to minimise the amount of data which needs to be collected for functional/compatibility purposes with restrictions becoming stricter over time (e.g. only HTTPS sites can query this info). Once the transition has been completed, you can bet all Chromium-based browsers will report as Chrome, all WebKit-based ones will report as Safari and all Gecko-based ones will show up as being Firefox.

  7. Tron Silver badge

    Opera may be in for a boost.

    If it still has its built in VPN, then it may become a lot more popular when the government's new legislation passes. Better than allowing hotasianbunnies dot com* to scan your passport for access.

    *Before you bother, I made that one up.

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