EU legislates disclosure of copyright data used to train AI

European lawmakers recently added a clause to the AI Act – legislation proposed to regulate machine learning systems – requiring AI developers to disclose copyrighted data used to train their models. The inspection of copyrighted data used to train generative AI models was reportedly added to the bill just two weeks ago. " …

[Anonymous Coward]

Presumably, the Republicans are resorting to artificial intelligence because they lack the genuine article themselves.

[Eecahmap]

Perhaps the Democrats would rework the "Daisy" ad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_(advertisement)) to use against today's Republicans.

[teebie]

I thought that was going to be a link to the ad with some dimwits in a sunny fields chanting "daisy daisy, daisy daisy, daisy, daisy. Daisy", and wondered how that would help.

[heyrick]

"Against conservative wishes for more surveillance and leftist fantasies of over-regulation"

Interesting that it is "conservative wishes" and "leftist fantasies". And to be honest, neither have much relevance here.

It's not surveillance, nor is it over regulation. It's simply "is big corp stealing your stuff to create their data sets?".

In a world where a three second fuzzy clip of a song playing in the background can get a video slapped with a copyright violation and downloading the odd movie or programme can carry heavy fines (and I mean "the odd", not habitual sharers), it is a bloody relevent concern as to why big corps are "hands off our stuff" while at the same time "all your stuff is useful to us thanks". It seems nobody cares about respecting actual copyright, it's simply who has the better lawyers, and guess what, it ain't us. As usual.

[JimC]

it's simply who has the better lawyers,

Which is why rights societies like ASCAP and the RIAA are so essential for the ordinary folk like us, and why the likes of Google have been so keen to fund the useful idiots who seek to undermine them.

[TheMaskedMan]

"Interesting that it is "conservative wishes" and "leftist fantasies". And to be honest, neither have much relevance here."

I assumed it meant wishes of the lamp-dwelling genie, close your eyes and wish variety, which are traditionally pretty close to fantasy.

Despite my dislike of both surveillance and regulation, I think this could actually be a good thing. I say could, because politicians are not known for getting things right, but it's a good idea, at least.

If it goes to plan, all the arty types who don't want their work included in training data will be able to say so, and presumably be able to have it removed. Then they can stop complaining and go back to their easels, typewriters etc while the rest of the world moves on. Win win.

[Doctor Syntax]

"Operating robotaxis in SF has become a litmus test for business viability. If it can work here, there's little doubt it can work just about everywhere,"

Try rural Cornwall and Devon.

Or test your pothole avoidance on some of the roads round here.. ("Here" being almost anywhere in the UK.)

[John Brown (no body)]

For that matter, what about that steep windy hill place in SF on a busy day, with Amazon type deliveries to the residents just to make it even more congested? Or the daily police chases down the hills past the trams, bouncing over the cross roads and leaving hub caps flying everywhere (Blame Hollywood for my view of SF!)

[Michael Wojcik]

Yes, the pretense that San Francisco is somehow the most difficult place in the world for an AV to operate is prima facie absurd. It's certainly not the hardest place in California – there are plenty of rural areas where online maps will be inaccurate and signage negligible, for example, and where there will be hazards like fallen rock and washouts. It's probably not the most difficult urban area in California; I don't know of a worse one offhand, but there are a lot of them, so that seems statistically likely.

Try running a robo-taxi service in the region around the Mountain Fastness (hey, we have a commercial airport, so theoretically there's demand) and you'd find out that SF is a doddle.

In the UK, as you wrote, rural areas could definitely be a challenge. How are these AVs at negotiating fords? How do they do with blind intersections? Can I take one over Hardknott Pass? (When I were a lad, I spent a few days in Cumbria with my folks. We had a hire car, and my father and I were looking at a map and spotted the pass, so of course we had to drive it. Really very pleasant and not at all difficult, but not being able to see the road past the bonnet of the car was an interesting experience, and the only way you knew of oncoming traffic was the wave of sheep that preceded it. Possibly not accounted for in the AV's model.)

And while I've never driven elsewhere in Europe, my understanding from TV is that the UK is relatively easy.

Hell, even New England is a lot harder to navigate than San Francisco. SF is not that far from Phoenix (beloved of AV firms) in terms of difficulty.

[Michael Wojcik]

Truly insidious

That RNC advertisement should not be dismissed. It poses a real danger. People will see it and think, well, if this half-assed feeble bullshit is the worst we'll get from generative AI, there's nothing to worry about.