back to article German political parties accused of microtargeting voters on Facebook

Remember the Who Targets Me browser extension from privacy activists at Noyb? The group yesterday filed explosive complaints based on log records from the extension that claim six of Germany's political parties broke European data law when they targeted voters on Facebook's adtech platform. The group is claiming the allegedly …

  1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Meta

    Not sure why people feel pressure to enter their real information into the billionaire's data sink.

    Probably the only thing true about me they have is my name and age. Everything else is mostly made up, even friends, photos.

    I used to like to photoshop myself in the places I've never been and post that I've been on holiday there etc. or looking at someone else's updates and posting similar things.

    Some real friends know this and they do the same.

    I think more people should follow this way of poisoning the chalice.

    Faceblock is only as good as their data.

    Then once the fools at advertising realise their targeting is pointless, they may stop feeding the beast with their money.

    1. Freezus
      Big Brother

      Re: Meta

      Unfortunately you're in a tiny minority. Resistance is futile, citizen

    2. KittenHuffer Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Meta

      I created an account several months ago when I joined a leisure club that only has an FB presence. After 2 weeks it was 'suspended' for breaking their usage policies, when my only activity was posting to the clubs group page. Strangely, it would only be reactivated if I provided them with enough information for them to positively identify me, which was not going to happen.

      So I now interact with the club via SWMBO's FB account. As I refuse to give MZ any of my PII ...... ever!

      --------------> Grew up learning that we didn't want him watching, only for most of the World to voluntarily hand everything over to the various social networks of the last 20 years!

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge
        Flame

        Re: Meta

        It's an annoying trend.

        I had a similar experience trying to use Airbnb, they wanted an official ID to go with a simple deposit payment for a booking next year, previously bookings over the last several years have gone through with no issues - I found the location contact details elsewhere & booked direct - so it's adios Airbnb i won't miss the 'Lifestyle' BS.

        In an unrelated event, recently I had to use my phone to confirm a card transaction. I had the option of speaking my card account number or using the keypad, after 4 failed attempts at pressing sixteen digits*, voice worked at the first attempt (wow! /sarc). Can someone give me any plausible reason as to why this wasn't a deliberate act to record my voice (having declined to use voice recognition at every previous interaction with the automated system), this is the same phone that they've sent their 2FA codes to since the process started.

        They're not even trying to be subtle with PII collection these days.

        *that I could see on screen was correct every time.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          "I had to use my phone to confirm a card transaction."

          Every bit of your next sentence is utterly horrifying. There is NO LEGITIMATE REASON to verify the ENTIRE CC number after the fact, any which way, full stop. Keep a close eye on your CC statements for the next couple of years.

          NO legitimate payment processor will do this.

          If there's some degree of anti-fraud protection, the CC provider may *call* you - by voice - asking "Are you really trying to spend $12k at [name-of-inflatable-toys-company]". They WILL NOT verify any card details other than maybe confirming the last 4 digits - they already know who you are and which card you're using!

    3. jmch Silver badge

      Re: Meta

      "Probably the only thing true about me they have is my name and age. Everything else is mostly made up, even friends, photos."

      If your facebook 'friends' are not your real friends, what's the point of having a facebook account at all???

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: Meta

        > If your facebook 'friends' are not your real friends...

        He is building up a fake identity, a "legend" if you will, so that When The Revolution Comes he can disappear, like the Oozlum bird.

      2. Stork

        Re: Meta

        Selling stuff on Facebook marketplace?

        That’s what I have been using FB for the last few years.

  2. Missing Semicolon Silver badge

    2 possibilities

    1) They're lying. Of course they specified the target political tendency

    2) The ads were placed with generic requirements, and Facebook was being "helpful"

  3. Omnipresent Silver badge

    Figured out facebook in like 2004.

    I haven't been on facebook since the mid 2000's. It was obvious someone was beginning to use the data to manipulate. The problem with face, is it's American, but it's owned by a guy that gives two turds about what it's used for, and sells anything you put on there (including addys, phone numbers, experiences, photographs, and any connections) to the highest bidder. It doesn't matter WHO, or WHAT, the buyer is. That opens it completely up to be used for exploitation.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Another example of how Anti-social

    social media is.

    It always has been open to abuse and following Musk's totally fscking up Twatter, the other platforms are ripe for abuse.

    Fecalbook is a swamp of bovine excrement. If you are signed up, and don't delete your account then god help you in the future when the barstewards decide to target you.

  5. sebacoustic

    "An SPD spokesman .. party does not use microtargeting..tailoring of our campaigns is based on .. gender, language and age preferences..."

    age preferences? really? Is one's self-assigned age the new frontier in the Culture Wars(TM)?

    1. sgp

      It's no different than giving a speech in a youth community center promising this and that for young people and on the same day promising so and so for pensioners in whatever place they gather. It's a trick as old as politics itself.

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge

        Tailoring lies to fit the target.

  6. Snowy Silver badge
    Flame

    Fine all of them

    yes that does onclude Facebook.

  7. JulieM Silver badge

    Targeted advertising needs to end

    Targeted advertising simply needs to be outlawed, full stop. It is not at all comparable with advertising fishing tackle in a fishing magazine or wedding dresses in a bridal magazine, where there is some expectation of a theme. It's literally messing with people's heads; subverting the entire concept of "universality of experience" in a way, and to an extent, which is tantamount to psychological warfare.

    It's no coincidence that the UK has become more openly racist since the Brexit referendum, because the cheating Leave campaign worked by emboldening racists. They carefully targeted a series of advertisements only at people they already suspected of harbouring some racist sentiment, in order to create a false impression that the racism in the adverts was socially acceptable. And their legacy is a whole bunch of people wandering around, believing there is nothing wrong with being openly, boldly racist to people.

    Racists do not exist in a vacuum. Racist Uncle Joe knows not everybody shares (indeed, has met people who do not share) his racist views; and he knows, on some level, people find them reprehensible. If Racist Uncle Joe were to see an openly racist advertisement in a newspaper, on TV or on a hoarding in a public place, somebody he knows -- most probably even his own niece Fiona, whom he sees in real life from time to time -- would be sure at least to complain about it. And that's how he knows it's racist: because other people who have seen the same advertisement are saying it's racist.

    And when Racist Uncle Joe knows Fiona is visiting the same pages as he is, but she never says anything about the terrible racism in the advertisements on the pages, then he reasons the advertisements cannot be racist enough for her to speak up.

    It never occurs to him that on the Internet, it's possible for everybody to be shown different advertisements alongside the same content. Why would it? If two people look at a billboard, they see the same advertisement. If two people are watching the same TV programme from the same transmitter, they see the same advertisements in the breaks. If two people are reading the same newspaper, they see the same advertisements. It's how advertisements have always worked, since time immemorial; and it's almost unreasonable to expect .

    The only way to ensure this will never happen again is to outlaw even the possibility for individual targeting of advertisements; which means stopping the collection of data which allows the targeting, requiring advertisers to deliver the same content to all clients without discrimination, and requiring it to be made easier for Internet users to block advertisements altogether. Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth commence.

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