back to article If scammers use your AI code to rip off victims, the FTC may want a word

America's Federal Trade Commission has warned it may crack down on companies that not only use generative AI tools to scam folks, but also those making the software in the first place, even if those applications were not created with that fraud in mind.  Last month, the watchdog tut-tutted at developers and hucksters …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    What does this regulation prohibit that isn't already prohibitted?

    Answer: not a damn thing.

    1. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: What does this regulation prohibit that isn't already prohibitted?

      The FTC does this every so often, it reminds people that the New Shiny Thing is still subject to today's laws and regulations.

      In fact, there's no new regulation or rules here, it's just a reminder from the watchdog. Or a clarification. Depends how you look at it.

      C.

    2. Zippy´s Sausage Factory

      Re: What does this regulation prohibit that isn't already prohibitted?

      Wasn't that one of the FTC's key implications though?

      "We don't need new powers to come after this shiny new thing - we've already got them. Meaning if you've ever done this, we can come get you*. There's no magic date when this kicks in."

      * statute of limitations may apply. Your jurisdiction will vary. This is not legal advice. Etc etc etc.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: What does this regulation prohibit that isn't already prohibitted?

        "Your jurisdiction will vary"

        That's not necessarily the US's view.

  2. Catkin Silver badge

    If only they actually cared

    Making similar threats against VoIP providers (and following through) would pretty much put paid to the most lucrative scammers. If they also hit remote access providers then that would finish them off completely.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If only they actually cared

      Next up would then be anyone hosting a TOR node.

      Now I'm for protection anynomity, but in all the years that I have been running sites I have never seen a legitimate hit from a known TOR node. Breach attempt, plenty, but genuine traffic? Nada. I don't know how up to date Maxmind's list is of 'anonymous proxies' but it's in the list of locations that get automatically diverted to 0.0.0.0.

  3. TheMaskedMan Silver badge

    Going after scammers - great, go to it.

    Going after people who make tools specifically to aid scammers - likewise.

    Going after people who make otherwise legitimate tools that a scammer could / might / find useful - ridiculous.

    You might as well prohibit pens, after all, forging signatures is hardly uncommon. What about telephones? Think of all the hundreds of phone calls you've had that start something like "Allo, I am from Microsoft, your computer is polluting internet..." and end up with some poor bugger being talked into installing team viewer and shortly thereafter finding their bank account has sprung a leak. Best to ban all telephones just in case. And team viewer, too! Kali Linux? Kill it with fire.

    I'm very much in favour of giving the villains a good seeing to, preferably with a big stick, but a little common sense is required. Pretty much anything can be used as a tool for crime - if we prohibited any invention that could have nefarious uses (the wheel, for starters) we'd still be sat around in a cave debating the implications of going forward with fire as a possible source of heat Vs arson.

    1. Richard 12 Silver badge

      The primary or even sole purpose of some of these generative "AI" systems is to create fake stuff.

      Animating a still and generating their voice, for example.

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        generative "AI" systems

        I think you misspelled "cryptocurrencies"

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        The primary or even sole purpose of some of these computer generated image "CGI" systems is to create fake stuff.

        Ban Marvel movies now

        1. Richard 12 Silver badge

          Context is key

          Know your customers.

    2. Joe W Silver badge

      Oh, and they also should ban guns, as per the argument...

      (not that I am not of the opinion that the regulations in the USA are quite... lax, leading to quite obvious results

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/theres-a-new-global-ranking-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands )

    3. sketharaman

      Section 230 Safe Harbor

      Totally agree, just that regulators conveniently skip the various extant exemptions to the blustery threats they make in public. For example, telephone companies have always enjoyed indemnity from prosecution for the nefarious deeds conducted over their copper and fiber connections.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Section 230 Safe Harbor

        But they have tracked down that Metcalfe chap who is the mastermind enabling all these online scams

        1. Version 1.0 Silver badge

          Re: Section 230 Safe Harbor

          Here's some lyrics from an excellent culture, they describe what we need to do ...

          "Don't judge a man by the way he looks, Judge him by his ways." - Jacob Miller, The Truth Has Come Again

  4. Petalium

    Just put a mandatory H on the forehead of all generated characters

    1. xanadu42

      Now that would be a means of "AI" generated images/videos...

      But what about audio and Text?

      1. Petalium

        For audio, label it Justin Bieber.....

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