Flirting hard with India doesn't mean US is breaking up with China

The US's moves to secure closer trade ties with India do not indicate a desire to decouple with China's tech industry, US secretary of commerce Gina Raimondo said last week. The US and India have signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) focused on semiconductors and supply chain resiliency. Raimondo led a ten-CEO delegation …

[Esoteric Eric]

I see Tim Cook has pressured the Indian states into throwing out workers rights so they can achieve parity with the slave labour in China.

Meanwhile back in the West, he preaches about rainbows and unicorns, and so do all the other full of shit woke companies

And the lefty liberals swallow it up like the dickheads they are

[Paul Crawford]

You were just about making a useful point and then said 'woke'. No breakfast involved? Downvote.

[fatkoth]

People wouldn't choose to work in Apple factories if they had better alternatives. Apple moving its factories to India is a _good_ thing, despite what you might want to think. If you forced Apple to give laborers substantially better compensation, Apple would have no incentive to set up factories in India over setting them up in more developed countries.

[CliffB]

CliffB

Apple contracts out all its production and assembly activities. These referenced factories -- these located in China, are owned and managed by Foxconn, a Taiwanese company. That's the same company that is arranging to set up factories in India that will assemble Apple products in that country. Many of the management staff, even in Foxconn's factories, even in China, are Taiwanese.

[TheInstigator]

It'll certainly be interesting to see the quality of the first few devices that come out of the Indian factories once they start mass producing them

[Danny 5]

You're joking, right? I'm trying to find the /sarcasm indicator, but can't find it.

[Casca]

Right wing muppets dont know what sarcasm is...

[Danny 5]

Immoral

In its current state, globalisation is downright immoral. It leans on the explotiation of people for cheap labor, it's the absolute worst exponent of capitalism. Globalism can only work in a level playing field, where workers have the same rights, regardsless of the country they work in. I'm not anti-globalism persé, but I am firmly against what's happening now. It just boils down to modern day slavery in too many cases.

[Anonymous Coward]

@Danny 5 - Re: Immoral

Yeah, but look at the insane amount of money we're making.

Greed is eternal. - #10 Ferengi rule of acquisition.

[DS999]

Re: Immoral

Workers don't even have the same rights from state to state in the US, and you want to see worldwide labor laws? Good luck with that.

Exploitation is relative. The worst conditions people in China, India, Vietnam etc. work under today are better than conditions for many workers in the US or UK 100 years ago. Even workers you think are well treated by the standards of 2023 may be seen as "modern day slavery" in 2123. The very idea of physical labor could be seen as exploitative by our descendants, as physical labor might be something only robots do that a human being should never be forced to lower himself to.

[VoiceOfTruth]

The USA is not India's friend

In the India-Pakistan war of 1971, the USA backed Pakistan. Meanwhile Russia backed India. That has not been forgotten in India. And its memory won't be wiped away with a few comments on The Reg or from "friendly" overtures from the USA today.

This gives some insight into why India will not just "get with the program" and stop buying Russian fuel. Russia did not back not India's enemy, while the USA did.

[TheInstigator]

Re: The USA is not India's friend

This point is exactly right.

I've previously made the point that the West generally doesn't get along/trust any country that it hasn't previously dominated before - normally as a result of waging war against that country.

India may not have been beaten directly by the US in a war, but it certainly has been by the UK and was a colony.

Human beings have memories - and Indians know enough about how the West works to play the card on both sides for as long as it needs to to get ahead on its own (as well it should do)

[Snowy]

Break up with China

It is for the best in the long terms.

[TheInstigator]

Re: Break up with China

How far should it be taken @Snowy?

Will you take arms to ensure the break up?

[Anonymous Coward]

(ChatGPT translates) We anticipate the day when the threat of China will have worn off, and the public will just think of it as another place they don't want to live run by mullahs or something, and no one is ever going to believe Russia threatens us again, so we better start cultivating India to be tomorrow's next big threat now.

[TheInstigator]

Pull the other one!

"We see India as a trusted technology partner and we want to continue to deepen our technological relationship," she said, adding: "I want to be clear the United States does not seek to decouple from China nor does it seek a technological decoupling from China."

That's like telling someone you really care and love them in their face, and when they turn around you're stabbing them in the back and flame throwing them.

An absolutely ludicrous statement - I can't believe that person managed to say all that without smirking!

"Raimondo clarified that technologies used for military technologies were the targets of export controls – not "the vast majority of trade with China." Most Sino-American trade, she explained, involves "benign products.""

I would say chips used in EVs are benign - why are they subject to controls?

[Ideasource]

Re: Pull the other one!

Long-term if you want to enslave and cuck another nation, attack their independence by cultivating economic dependence and then leverage passive threat destabilization if cut off to compromise their political/economical/social systems.

That's how we poison other countries and rot them from the inside out.