'Robot lawyer' DoNotPay not fit for purpose, alleges complaint

"Robot lawyer" DoNotPay is headed back to court – and not to prove its merits as a legally inclined chatbot. It's being sued for practicing law in California without a license. In a lawsuit filed earlier this month but only released publicly late last week, DoNotPay customer Jonathan Faridian claimed that his experience with …

[Ideasource]

All companies can do is produce documentation.

They can't force consumers to read.

Do not pay was pretty prominent describing how it functions. To any mind that is not destitute in reading comprehension skills, the context is clear that this is an experiment in healthy disruption of economics regarding lawyers.

They're always be foolhardy humans who use experimental projects for production.

Let those fools learn the hard way because they never learn any other way.

[Peter2]

To any mind that is not destitute in reading comprehension skills, the context is clear that this is an experiment in healthy disruption of economics regarding lawyers.

I hope then that the person who came up with the idea was not destitute in reading comprehension skills relating to the law, and the notion of services provided having to be "fit for purpose".

[Ideasource]

The purpose of an experiment is to see what happens so it is fit for purpose.

[Esoteric Eric]

You the owner?

Are are you a bot?

Hard to tell these days

But whatever you are, you just wrote a load of BS.

[Grunchy]

I love the idea because I hate all lawers

They shoulda paid extra for Watson (IBM) because he was mighty effective at beating up Ken Jennings.

I’m just waiting for the day that Watson humiliates all human lawyer parasites — IN COURT AND SETTING PERMANENT PRECEDENT.

(Open source only, of course. As far as I am concerned, IBM can go dry up & blow away.)

[Flocke Kroes]

Would you prefer to direct your hatred against a machine?

If by some magic an AI lawyer was vaguely competent you can be sure whatever lawyers have done to piss you off will be in the training data. An AI lawyer will parrot that same behaviour.

[cornetman]

> ...is not barred in any jurisdiction...

Isn't that a good thing?

[heyrick]

Yeah, lawyer speak...

Lawyers: getting barred means being admitted

Everybody else: getting barred means you'll never be admitted

[Peter2]

In old courtrooms, there was a large wooden bar between the public viewing areas and the working part of the court. The solicitors who used to argue things in court used to sit on a bench and leant against this bar. The solicitors so qualified in the UK are still called Barristers (which I believe is a corruption of bar resters). Then people started spoiling it moving the bench into the public area behind the bar and using the bar as a table for paperwork. (As 300 years ago tables weren't provided, which neatly discouraged the creation of large amounts of paperwork and long drawn out cases).

Legally qualified people still tend to call obtaining the qualification to enter court "being called to the bar", despite the fact that traditional courtrooms with the wooden bar were replaced centuries ago.

[Arthur the cat]

Barristers (which I believe is a corruption of bar resters)

From the OED entry for barrister:

Etymology: < bar n.1 (or French barre or medieval Latin barra): the rest of the word is obscure, being formerly written -ester, -aster, but now -ister, perhaps after words like chorister, sophister, but there is no trace of an earlier *barrist, like chorist, sophist; Spelman cities 16th cent. Latin barrasterius (probably formed from the English).

I think you've picked up a folk etymology, but it's as good as anything else.

[Al fazed]

Typical

lawyer double speak

ALF

[dom_f]

Eating your own dog food....

I wonder if DoNotPay will use DoNotPay to respond, or a real lawyer.....

[Michael Strorm]

"You unfortunately plumped for our 'DoNotPay' policy, which if you never use it is very worthwhile"

> Faridian's [class action] is asking for "restitution of all amounts … paid to [DoNotPay] for its services" and other financial recompense

How likely do you reckon it is that they DoNotPay their money back?

[Insert sadsack pun here]

It's interesting that DoNotPay tried to discredit the lawyer that filed suit against them by saying "this guy has personally received millions in class action lawsuits". So...you're saying he's been proven right a lot in the past and is very successful...?

[Michael Wojcik]

It's a great argument by any measure. "Hey, why didn't the plaintiff pick a lawyer that sucks? That would only be fair, right?"

I have no sympathy for DoNotPay. They saw this "AI" turd on the sidewalk and proudly set their foot in it.