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Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency's director Jen Easterly has been outspoken in her drive to bring more women into the security industry, and this year for International Women's Day her agency formalized that pledge by announcing a partnership with nonprofit Women in CyberSecurity (WiCyS). The US department of …

  1. Plest Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Too late!

    The first problem you have is that you're already too late! You need to get to the young girls when they start school, ideally before at kindergarten age, teach them as early as possible that tech and STEM in general doesn't care if you're a girl or a boy.

    The problem is that even by kindergarten age the "damage" is already done, boys and girls have already been brainwashed into gender roles. Now don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with gender roles but as my wife was told way too many times growing up, "What the hell do you want to learn about computers for?! They're for boys to play with!", so she grew up like most young girls and ended up in a teaching role in a nursery school. I met my wife when she was 16 and I've encouraged her these last 30 years to enjoy tech, use it and do whatever you want to do and I'll support you, since then she now handles all our extended family IT support matters!

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge
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      Re: Too late!

      "since then she now handles all our extended family IT support matters!"

      A smart move on your part.

  2. IGotOut Silver badge

    Good luck.

    ...I work in an Engineering environment and it's pretty much the same. The women get letched at, have had wolf whistles, get patronised and if you go by the rumours,are either lesbians or have slept with at least 10 different guys in the first week.

    The amount of times I've had to call people out us just staggering.

    1. Korev Silver badge
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      Re: Good luck.

      That's not the case at my work (or my previous employer for that matter); what on all earth are HR and/or management doing?

      1. big_D Silver badge

        Re: Good luck.

        It has been the same in my experience. In the UK, I worked at a big consultancy and, back then, it was about 30% women and many of them in more senior positions, there was never any talk, wolf-whistling or anything the like. On the projects & teams they were treated equally. I had one contractor who looked down on women, his contract wasn't renewed after 3 months, when I looked for his replacement, I included the senior female programmer in the decision process.

        In Germany, the females have always had an equal standing (if not equal pay, if the statistics are true, but nobody ever talks about salaries here, so I don't know for sure one way or the other, although most were senior to me, so I assume they were earning more) and were never treated with anything other than respect, even behind their backs, or if there were attempts, they were quickly reprimanded and received written warnings from HR.

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "To my knowledge, we do not currently purchase commercial database information" etc

    Need to know becomes need not to know?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      No it just means that they didn't pay the bill

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        It would be easier to get the true answer if you just killed him and had his deputy come in next time. Otherwise all you're going to get is bullshit.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          An Organization is a Hierarchy of Wastebaskets

          You'd have to kill a lot of people before you got low enough on the organizational pyramid to learn the truth.

    2. An_Old_Dog Silver badge
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      Definitions

      "To my knowledge": ("My subordinates know what not to tell me.").

      "I understand that we previously — as in the past": I've not seen any definition or synonym of "previously" which means, "non-past". Does he believe that sometimes words mean their opposites?

      (Icon for "The Devil's Dictionary")

    3. Lil Endian Silver badge

      ...we do not currently purchase commercial database information...

      Temporally correct. But the moment I get out of this annoying Senate hearing, I'm buying as much dirt on you lot as I can. Which is a lot.

  4. Anonymous Coward
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    side notes

    "Open to all WiCyS members, the nine-month program " Seriously...........................

    wtf: "women and other under-represented groups" Everyone in IT is weird. Under-represented groups IS what IT is made of. Problem is (also) that these diversity groups only look skin deep/appearances.

    As another poster said - If you want more diverse genders - encourage all children with opportunities for careers, (in place of gender manipulation.)

    It pisses me off that 2022 woman if the year is a man. There is only one thing men haven't taken from women yet, and I'm sure some idiot is out there trying to make men carrie babies. Then we will all be Moclan (The Orvil)

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: side notes

      And illustrate it with stock photos of people that a 3-letter agency would never hire

    2. Anrtryg

      Re: side notes

      "Problem is (also) that these diversity groups only look skin deep/appearances." - right

      "Everyone in IT is weird. Under-represented groups IS what IT is made of." - right

      "It pisses me off that 2022 woman if the year is a man." - riiiiiight

      Thank you for an excellent example of why the IT industry has so very, very far to go.

      1. Anonymous Coward
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        Re: side notes

        nah

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: side notes

        not really

  5. t245t Silver badge
    Holmes

    Underrepresented from what?

    As the comments on "techie wiped a server," show, IT is a thankless task. The only kind of underrepresentation you're going to experience is lack of budget and expected to work overtime for free. Besides most male kids are into things while most female kids are into relationships. It's a law of nature that no amount of social engineering will change.

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