back to article Happy Valentine's Day: Here's the final nail in Internet Explorer's coffin

This Valentine's day, Microsoft is quietly giving users the final gift of no more Internet Explorer by rolling out an Edge patch to most versions of Windows 10, finally killing the browser in all but IE mode. Yes, you may be thinking, we knew IE was dead in June 2022, when Microsoft announced its official end of life in favor …

  1. TeeCee Gold badge
    Black Helicopters

    Still available in:

    ...Windows 10 China Government Edition.

    I wonder how much work the CIA had to put in to make that happen?

    1. An_Old_Dog Silver badge

      Windows 10 CGE

      Microsoft and the U.S. TLAs likely have a "comfortable" relationship, so not much work at all.

      ♪ I'll be your back-door baby / and I ain't talkin' "maybe" ... ♫

    2. Evil Auditor Silver badge

      Re: Still available in:

      I'd assume it's rather work put into it to please the CCP, a "sacrifice" for doing business in China. I do not have the slightest clue though as it's for the first time that I've heard of the Win10 China Government Edition.

  2. Mayday Silver badge

    Viva/Yammer and co

    Every time I use a Windows PC and see all this rubbish and I don’t even know what it’s for. Presumably it sits there chewing up storage and other resources on the box.

    Wtf is Sway anyway? (Please don’t answer).

  3. captain veg Silver badge

    Internet Explorer began life in 1995

    Not really.

    Microsoft licenced the code off Spyglass.

    I almost wrote "bought the code", but of course they stiffed Spyglass shortly after.


  4. Michael Strorm Silver badge

    Would otherwise be happy to see the death of IE but...

    ...there are still things I have to support that don't quite work properly under Edge's IE mode. Regardless...

    > If your business still has IE11 dependencies, it's too late to take steps to smooth the transition, unfortunately: The patch is out, and "business disruption at scale" could follow for those that didn't bother to take action earlier.

    Let's remember that it was MS that, in an earlier era, abused its market dominance to make the nonstandard IE the dominant browser and the "standard" everyone coded to regardless.

    Let's remember that it was MS that used "embrace, extend and extinguish" to lock people into IE's peculiarities and whose virtual monopoly on browsers from the late 90s to mid 2000s held back development enough to ensure that this sort of crap got locked in for years to come.

    Let's remember that it very much suited them to do this back then, and if any businesses "still have IE11 dependencies", it's as a result of MS's self-serving behaviour at that time.

    So, to the person from MS who whined a few years back that they still had to support all those crappy old, obsolete nonstandard features because people were still using them... do us all a favour and shut up. This was MS's own fault, damn right it deserves no sympathy for the mess it created.

    1. cookieMonster Silver badge

      Re: Would otherwise be happy to see the death of IE but...

      While I agree with everything you wrote. Let’s also remember that it was lazy f€&@ web developers that also contributed to this, the same shower of cu?€& are now actively doing the same only on chrome.

      1. captain veg Silver badge

        Re: Would otherwise be happy to see the death of IE but...

        Yes, this is all true.

        Personally, I don't get it. It's always been clear to me that publishing on the web means adhering to web standards.

        Some years ago I asked a colleague why he had coded a web site that *only* worked on IE. He replied that this was the brief that he had been given. Not necessarily that it only worked on IE, but that it did work there, and no one cared about other browsers.

        That's the problem.

        One day Chrome won't any longer be "the web". On that day sites which are coded to web standards will continue working.


  5. Claptrap314 Silver badge

    So now, it's Chrome

    for all your "embrace, extend, extinguish" needs. Include, especially, privacy.

    1. 42656e4d203239 Silver badge

      Re: So now, it's Chrome

      Microsoft played the long game with IE... they knew someone like Google would come along, with fewer scruples/corporate encumberances than themselves, and write/help to write a better browser (Chromium) which could be easily modified to slurp up just the same, if not more, data than IE ever could, leading by example (Chrome).

      Edge is just a Microsof~1 Chrome - just as intrusive and grasping as Chrome but for the boys in blue rather than Alphabet soup.

  6. cmiles74

    Enterprise Healthcare Apps

    I have it on good authority that Epic is still using IE11 for all "integrated" (i.e. SMART in FHIR) apps.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I’ve been desperate

    But I’ve never been driven to the Edge.

  8. Mockup1974 Bronze badge

    It's such a shame they didn't open source EdgeHTML + Chakra when they switched to Chromium. It could have been a viable contender as an open source project.

    1. captain veg Silver badge

      Agree. This should have been a condition of the various consent decrees that MS has been forced to sign from time to time.

      I would also make Opera SA release the source code for their v12 Browser, i.e. the last one before they palmed us off with a Blink remix.

      We need diversity in the browser market. Lot's of Chrome forks along with Mozilla limping along doesn't cut it. It amuses me that KHTML has ended up the winner, but it's not healthy.


  9. fpx

    Microsoft's own free viewer for Visio only runs in Internet Explorer. There's a long how-to to get this plugin running in Edge using its "IE mode", requiring a full page of registry edits.

    1. EarthDog

      Job security for those of us who know windows registry

  10. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge

    Kill it with


    only way to be sure?

    1. Dave559 Silver badge

      Re: Kill it with

      Godzilla… I mean, Mozilla, at your service!

      (If the old lizard isn't actually naturally fire-breathing, I'm sure there will be an add-on for that, of course…)

      1. captain veg Silver badge

        Re: Kill it with

        Mozilla is the only alternative right now.

        This worries me.


    2. Michael Strorm Silver badge

      Re: Kill it with

      > only way to be sure?

      Fire isn't enough for that, you have to nuke the site from orbit.

  11. EarthDog

    The Browser wars

    I got caught up in the browser wars of the 90's. I was doing web development at the time. We tried to support IE and other browsers but constant breakage in our applications due to IE constantly introducing incompatibilities caused me to quit browser application development. Never again, chrome seems like a replay of it.

    It took a while but I finally got the twitching under control.

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