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A tiny NASA cubesat, sent to hunt for signs of water ice on the Moon, will not reach lunar orbit after all four thrusters in a miniaturized propulsion system malfunctioned en route. The Lunar Flashlight satellite was launched on 11 December with a planned four-month journey to look for hidden ice around the lunar South Pole. …

  1. JassMan

    If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

    "The spacecraft was kitted out with a miniature propellant system never tested before running on a relatively new type of propellant dubbed Advanced Spacecraft Energetic Non-Toxic (ASCENT) by the US Air Force"

    The could take a tip from aircraft builders. When you are testing a new propulsion system, use a multi-engined vehicle that has flown reliably for years and just replace one engine with your new one.

    OK, it was a good idea to use 4 thrusters for redundancy, but if they are all identical, the chances are that if one fails they will all fail unless there is an external event such as a meteorite strike.

    1. Gene Cash Silver badge

      Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

      No, the 4 thrusters are not redundant. They're pointing in different directions.

      A big part of the job was testing the propulsion system. They got an unexpected answer, but they at least got an answer, and can try to figure out what happened based on the data and make a decision on what to do.

      This is a technology demonstrator and it's done its job. That's why it's a cheap little cubesat and not a large real satellite. Version 2.0 will probably be tested on another cubesat.

      I'm sure they're disappointed about the state of things, but they didn't spend a huge heap of money on it, and they still learned something.

      They're still going to get to test the Lunar Flashlight bit anyway.

      1. M.V. Lipvig Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

        Version 2.0 - same system, but with a remote control pipe cleaner to wiggle into the thruster ports. You know, to clear the debris.

      2. JassMan

        Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

        "No, the 4 thrusters are not redundant. They're pointing in different directions."

        If it has one thruster in each direction along with a tried and tested gyro system for altering the sats orientation (which it does), that makes for quadruple redundancy. The big problem is that gyros take a long time to change attitude and this results in the loss of manoeuvrability at the time when you need it most at the end of the journey.

        1. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

          Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

          "one thruster in each direction"

          I thought there were six directions in a cube.

          1. AVR

            Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

            Four on a tetrahedron will do the 3D job.

            1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
              Coat

              Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

              According to the article, it's not a tetrahedonsat, it's a cubesat,, so not helpful to remind the designers that they built it with too many sides and/or not enough thrusters :-)

          2. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

            Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

            With 5 upvotes and 1 downvote, it looks like one of the thrusters is pointing in the wrong direction.

    2. lglethal Silver badge
      Go

      Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

      Replacing one engine on an existing aircraft to test it costs effectively nothing, as the aircraft is not a single use item. Unfortunately, a satellite is. So you can go larger and significantly more expensive (majorly more) and have two propulsion systems and make sure it gets where it wants to be, or you can go "cheaper", whilst certainly not cheap, use only one propulsion system, and do a shit ton of pre-testing on Earth, and accept the risks.

      That's what they did in this case, and it failed. But it's highly likely they would not have the funding to build the satellite in the first place if they went with the dual propulsion system, so now they will get at least a little bit of data for their efforts, as opposed to none, due to a lack of funding. It's still a win, and they will definitely have learned some stuff about the new propulsion system, and not just the age old adage "Space is hard"...

    3. Christoph

      Re: If the job is important, neverruse untested technology

      I gather the point was to test smaller, lighter engines. Putting three bigger heavier engines in probably would not have fit in a cubesat?

  2. Sceptic Tank Silver badge

    You miniaturized that pipe a bit much

    NASA declined to say how this will aid them in the search for life on other planets.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: You miniaturized that pipe a bit much

      "NASA declined to say how this will aid them in the search for life on other planets."

      ...but this CubeSat was only looking for the signs of WATER and not LIFE - which would be a totally different mission - plus it would need a lot more fuel to go searching other planets.

      (PS: If it had been looking for life, then they could just stay in Earth orbit and look towards the planet surface and see if there's any life on Terra Firma ?).

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: You miniaturized that pipe a bit much

        Unless you are looking specifically for intelligent life. Don't see much of that around anymore.

      2. Muscleguy

        Re: You miniaturized that pipe a bit much

        The clangers got the soup dragon to fly up and breath soup down the thruster pipes.

  3. DS999 Silver badge

    If its a "cubesat" I assume it this was a pretty low budget project?

    Probably smart for NASA to try to some less important projects using cheap satellites to compare with the big budget stuff that has a mission life of 5 years but ends up lasting for the better part of 50. Might be that they need multiple cheapskate launches to insure success, but that's still probably much cheaper. Save the high budget stuff for the more public facing, or "one in a lifetime" projects like Voyager being able to gravity assist to reach all the planets.

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: If its a "cubesat" I assume it this was a pretty low budget project?

      Agreed. It was on a 4 month journey too, so a low fuel orbit, reducing fuel cost and overall mass, so yes, a cheap, relatively speaking, mission.

  4. Jan 0 Silver badge

    Re: The goal was to reach a near-rectilinear halo orbit (NRHO) around the Moon,

    Following that link through to the next link, still doesn't explain the term.

    The cubesat is being put into an elliptical (or near elliptical) orbit!

    AFAIK rectilinear still means "straight line" and the "nearness" is that one part of the orbit gets close to the Moon's South Pole!

    1. zuckzuckgo Silver badge

      Re: The goal was to reach a near-rectilinear halo orbit (NRHO) around the Moon,

      A halo orbit does not strictly speaking orbit the moon. It orbits one of the Lagrange points. In this case I assume the L1 point between the earth and the moon. From the earth the orbit looks like a halo around the moon. Its path is influenced by both the earth and the moon and is unstable so thrusters are needed to make occasional corrections. I take it that the near-rectilinear aspect is that when it passes closest to the moon it is travelling in a near straight line - at least straighter than a purely elliptical orbit.

  5. s. pam
    Angel

    looks like a case of...

    Premature Propulsionation....

    i'll get me coat

  6. Potemkine! Silver badge

    a miniature propellant system never tested before running

    Not even on Earth? If so, sounds risky.

  7. cuthbertgraak
    Coat

    Lunar Flashlight gone T.I.T.S.U.P.

    Totally Inhibited Thrusters Seized Under Pressure

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