Good going Joe. Way to teach those Chinese for stealing our jobs.
US ban on China chip exports rebounds, causes 2,700 job losses
The Biden administration's policy of restricting Chinese chip makers from accessing vital manufacturing equipment has caused damage at home, with California-based wafer fabrication equipment supplier Lam Research announcing it would layoff 1,300 employees, or about seven percent of its global workforce, as the company prepares …
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Saturday 28th January 2023 08:39 GMT tooltalk
Re: I'm trying to look surprised
>> Then again, we don't have politicians launching rockets.
What nonsense is this? We don't have keyboard warriots lauchning rockets either.
There is no volume Chinese DRAM maker in China. Lam's Chinese customers are mostly foreign companies such as Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron where up to 30%-40% of their DRAM and NAND are produced. Those South Korean companies also received one-year reprieve from the Biden administration -- there is no export restriction.
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Friday 27th January 2023 18:56 GMT Anonymous Coward
Politics shouldn’t enter science and technology
Unless there is an actual threat of imminent war, politics should stay out. It just looks petty.
How can you take the high ground when you’re messing around with which company can sell to who where when?
What’s next? American scientists not allowed to read Chinese research papers?
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Friday 27th January 2023 20:15 GMT Roland6
Re: Politics shouldn’t enter science and technology
> What’s next? American scientists not allowed to read Chinese research papers?
Once you rule out those of Chinese descent - I suspect very few Americans can read Chinese to the required level…
It does seem history is repeating itself: back in the early 80s Thatcher deemed only those sympathetic to the USSR would want to study Russian at University, so effectively caused these courses to become unattractive… fast forward to 1989, and the UK discovered it had a critical shortage of people skilled in Russian to take advantage of the new opportunities following the fall the Berlin Wall…
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Friday 27th January 2023 23:28 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Politics shouldn’t enter science and technology
The USA had a similar problem in the cold war, anyone who learnt Russian was obviously a commie and yet they had to decode a lot of Russian texts.
Their solution was to pay Israel, who had lots of Russian emigres, and since you obviously couldn't be Jewish and a Marxist - could be trusted.
Presumably there was no 'spin' put on any of the subsequent intelligence, either officially or because your translator was a recently escaped exile of the evil empire
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Saturday 28th January 2023 08:49 GMT tooltalk
Re: Politics shouldn’t enter science and technology
>>Politics shouldn’t enter science and technology
Would you say the same about the CCP? China's tech industry is in part orchestrated by the CCP's initiatives -- eg, "MADE-IN-CHINA 2025." Look at China's EV industry for instance -- the gov't was actively engaged in protectionism against foreign competitors and giving out subsidies.
>>Unless there is an actual threat of imminent war,
While I am a critic of neocon's "American liberal democracy everywhere," I'd much prefer this to the CCP's global hegemony. China has already shown what they willl do once they become economically dominant in something -- ie, rare earth metal export control against Japan in 2010 to settle a political dispute.
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Saturday 28th January 2023 16:36 GMT Yet Another Anonymous coward
Re: Politics shouldn’t enter science and technology
>the gov't was actively engaged in protectionism against foreign competitors and giving out subsidies.
And so capitalism says they will lose. This will give them a failed industrial base, like postwar British car makers or US aircraft makers now.
Surely it would be worse if China freely competed buying the best and cheapest components from around the world and assembling them into the most efficient systems. We should fully support China embracing the USSR industrial model.
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