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Never mind the headlines. 2022 was Tesla's best year ever, Elon Musk claimed in the automaker's Q4 2022 earnings call this week. According to Tesla [PDF], the electric car maker brought in $24.32 billion in revenue in the final three months of 2022 – a 37 percent year-over-year increase. Earnings per share were also up 40 …

  1. nautica Silver badge
    Meh

    Stupid is as stupid does...

    To paraphrase Will Rogers:

    "There are some people on the loose who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches."

  2. Mayday Silver badge
    Stop

    "Follower counts"

    Indeed, I "follow" more people which I dont "like" (despite what the button says) than what I do actually "like" because I want too see what bollocks they post, not because I actually "like" them.

    1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

      Re: "Follower counts"

      For some people, it does not matter if you follow them. You are still going to find out what they say - from other sources - whether you want to or not.

      1. MrDamage Silver badge

        Re: "Follower counts"

        True. Everything I know about the Kardashians was learnt against my will.

        1. captain veg Silver badge

          Kardashians

          I know almost nothing about them other than they have big bums. That might not be true; I haven't met one.

          -A.

    2. Timto

      Re: "Follower counts"

      It's also kinda hard no to follow him.

      When you create a new twitter account it forces you to choose one person to follow and the top of that list is Elon Musk.

      I had to scroll a long way down to find someone I wouldn't mind following before it would let me proceed.

      I chose stevenage football club

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Follower counts"

      According to some inside information (not confirmed) 120 million fake accounts have been created at the request of EM by Twitter employee and added as follower of EM's account.

  3. martinusher Silver badge

    That decrease in gross profit margin....

    ....was probably due to significant price cuts.

    It may be a function of where I live but there are more and more of these things about. Its one of the more common makes of new cars in our area. I don't know why except that everyone I know who owns one seems to really like it.

    1. Joe W Silver badge

      Re: That decrease in gross profit margin....

      I used to live in an EV-centric place (or one that was moving heavily towards EV). Teslas were reasonably common, but there were enough people pretty happy with Nissan, VW, BMW. The SUVs were not that common yet. The perceived value of Teslas was not that high, and the cabbies I talked to (mostly driving Teslas) were positively underwhelmed.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: That decrease in gross profit margin....

      Basically a late 90s Vauxhall Vectra with an iPad attached.

    3. iron Silver badge

      Re: That decrease in gross profit margin....

      I've only ever seen one Tesla in the wild - a big, ugly thing that looked out of place on UK streets - and that was about 4 years ago.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: That decrease in gross profit margin....

        I see them on the motorways daily and any time I pull into a motorway services, the number charging on the "special" Tesla charges is significant. Just a couple of years ago it was rare to a tesla charger in use. There's definitely a lot more of them on the roads now. The upside is that the motorway service usually have more Tesla chargers than they do generic ones. I've seen people waiting for generic ones to become available, but never seen so many Teslas there that there isn't at least a few spares ones. No idea how that maps to the rest of the country, but Tesla seem to have the right idea when it comes to motorway chargers. 8-10 or more compared to 2-4 generic ones,

    4. sabroni Silver badge

      Re: everyone I know who owns one seems to really like it.

      They like the fact you asked about it.

  4. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

    Hyper Truck

    With what has materialised for the Hyperloop in Vegas a far cry from what was originally proposed, I wonder if the Cyber Truck will be anything like what was demonstrated

    1. Kapsalon

      Re: Hyper Truck

      Let's wait and see

      1. MrDamage Silver badge

        Re: Hyper Truck

        Something like this;

        https://i.redd.it/29tue3burek51.jpg

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Hyper Truck

      Yeah, saw that reported on the Beeb the other. It surprised me that it even existed and I was a bit disappointed. Then I considered where SpaceX is now with Falcon9, Heavy and soon-to-be Starship compared with where they started with Grasshopper. The economics and demand are very different though. We shall see.

    3. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: Hyper Truck

      You mean, will it come with a broken window?

  5. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    'Skull-', 'cluster-', 'total-', 'dumb-', and now 'cyber-'

    The Cybertruck has become a symbol of failure - excessive excess from a failing billionaire with a Duke Nukem Forever production schedule. This truck is only for a handful of collectors and YouTube personalities.

    1. Lis Bronze badge

      Re: 'Skull-', 'cluster-', 'total-', 'dumb-', and now 'cyber-'

      "You Tube Personalities". Please stop flattering them. The majority of them are "influencers" which is a shorter way of writing "advertising shill twat, that will put their name to any old shit".

      Just saying"

      1. MrDamage Silver badge

        Re: 'Skull-', 'cluster-', 'total-', 'dumb-', and now 'cyber-'

        Influencers? Bollocks. Call them what they are. 2bob shop spriukers.

      2. steviebuk Silver badge

        Re: 'Skull-', 'cluster-', 'total-', 'dumb-', and now 'cyber-'

        Glad someone else sees it. Saw a British couple a while ago doing their vlog (hate that term) who were going to go camping "We have this amazing solar panel that can be used for camping. Its great and does blah blah blah. Oh and thats to CampingCompanyNameHere for the panel. We haven't actually tried it yet". So how can you say its fucking great? Is it because you got it free and want more free stuff from people so will just so something is great before you've even fucking tried it?

        They annoy the shit out of me. Granted, I'd love the money and free items but just can't bring myself to sell out. Really liked Britec's videos but then he started to "review" more and more IT stuff clearly sent to him for free buy Chinese sellers. Never declared this and the "reviews" were never reviewed just unboxings.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    How is this man in charge of anything?

    I wouldn’t put him in charge of a lemonade stand.

    1. veti Silver badge

      Re: How is this man in charge of anything?

      I would. I'd like to see how he handles the duck.

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
        Coffee/keyboard

        Now you've got me interested.

      2. Bebu

        Re: How is this man in charge of anything?

        "I would. I'd like to see how he handles the duck."

        Pray do elaborate...

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    While I'm a non-fan of Tesla, the truth is there is no bad news in this for Tesla:

    - Lower prices are straight out good for electric car uptake, and thus demand.

    - We have to make more electric cars in the next decade or so, than all the current production capacity from all the manufacturers put together.

    - There is no shortage of customers - you just have to be able to make them for the price those customers can pay.

    - While Tesla cars have various issues, the fact is that they are more than good enough, and will continue to be until the market starts to saturate - probably in the mid 2030's

    - Lower margins might make Tesla drop some of the expensive, negative-value techno-junk from the base models, which would actually make them better cars, more reliable, and more attractive to many buyers.

    - When margins fall enough, and Tesla have excess capacity in the supply chain for motors, batteries etc, they will simply partner with other companies to build the cars with Tesla components. This is what every other car company does.

    Heaps of Teslas where I live in second half of 2022, because they've been the cheapest e-car which is actually available when you want to buy one.

    1. Lis Bronze badge

      "While Tesla cars have various issues"

      Really? So driving into things and in some cases killing people are just "various issues"?

      I don't think so...

      1. Ken G Silver badge

        I assume you can steer it yourself, after all having a self driving feature which doesn't work is much the same as not having a self driving feature.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          It is said that Teslas have a strong inclination to target policemen, and that you can't prevent it...

    2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      the fact is that they are more than good enough

      But geting less so - given that, due to Musk's inability to be professional with his suppliers, they are stripping off a lot of the sensors that you would expect from a car that proclaims to be 'self-driving'. If you think the situation with driving into freeway splitters is bad now, just wait until the radar and lidar systems are removed and it's just cameras.

      Even my C-HR will have more sensors than the supposedly premium e-car!

      (Seeing a lot more Hyundai/VW e-cars around than Teslas. As well as other marques e-cars. They are very much a minority here in the UK - mostly bought a year or two ago by people who *must* have the latest techie-toy!)

    3. captain veg Silver badge

      Naming your cars S,E,X and Y is slightly amusing, but hardly evidence of a business genius.

      Rounding up your totally unnecessary bid for Twitter to <something>4.20, because it's (apparently) some kind of stoner meme is just hubris.

      Nemesis is here.

      -A.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    > I've got 127 million followers. It continues to grow very rapidly. That suggests that I'm reasonably popular,"

    Bollocks. While I'm sure there are plenty of stans slavishly following Elom's every little tidbit of twaddle, it's a fair bet all 127M aren't that. Assuming you even believe his number in the first place, and that it's composed mostly of human eyeballs rather than bots or other API-like content scrapers and similar shenanigans.

    More like he's a big unstable spectacle and a lot of people want to see what crazy unhinged thing he's done this time, not because they actually like the guy. Train crash, etc. Plus hate-watchers, pundits and media writer types looking for a headline, and so on.

    If he'd have instead claimed "I'm good at making a ruckus and attracting attention", then fair enough. But, any loud smelly fart can too....

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    EV Smugmobiles

    I bought a a "dirty, horrible" diesel 5 years ago. Before you EV smuggos start on at me, you know why? I bought that car which was second hand demo model only at 6 months old, just for towing, towing a caravan as I utterly hate flying and I needed a cheap way to have holidays. So before you EV types start on at me I can tell you that I've not been on a plane since 1998, so you keep your peace with the environment your way and I'll keep it in mine.

    I'm not the one driving my Tesla Smugmobile(tm) to the airport to fly and forth to Val d'Isere to go skiing twice a year for a few days!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: EV Smugmobiles

      "I'm not the one driving my Tesla Smugmobile(tm) to the airport to fly and forth to Val d'Isere to go skiing twice a year for a few days!"

      Somehow I suspect that very few Tesla owners are, either.

      " just for towing, towing a caravan as I utterly hate flying and I needed a cheap way to have holidays"

      One characteristic of electric cars is monstrous amounts of torque, with 100% availability all through the rev range (they don't have a torque curve they have a torque line), making electric cars ideal for towing. Of course there are many other characteristics including build and price, everyone is entitled to get themselves a diesel if that's what works for them. Personally I would go for an electric car but I don't have anywhere to charge it, so it's a 5-year old diesel for me too.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: EV Smugmobiles

        Ideal for towing… other than it will slay your range.

        Unlike electric trains - which are also ideal for towing - there is no overhead power line.

        1. BackToTheFuture

          Re: EV Smugmobiles

          No - not ideal. Tesla 3. Tesla rates their Standard Range Plus and Long Range Dual Motor models for a rather feeble 1000kg max towing range with a 55kg noseweight limit - only suitable for towing smaller loaded camping trailers or v small caravans. Add the "dark art" issue of guessing how much the real-life mileage range will be reduced on the journey ahead - 50% is a good start - but hills, unpredictably stuck in traffic jams etc etc = range anxiety with the whole family on board.

          I'd stick with the diesel for now thanks.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: EV Smugmobiles

            "I'd stick with the diesel for now thanks."

            Good for you! I'd bet most EV owners, other than maybe the most ardent greenies, would agree with you. I single long haul flight probably outweighs your annual emissions :-)

            Just Googled it. A fully occupied 747 emits less pollution , but in the comparison that was a diesel car with a single occupant. So for your holiday trip will all the family, probably much less pollution than flying the same distance. I can't be arsed to work the numbers, but a flight is generally far, far further than a 200-300 mile caravan trip. And not all flights are filled. many are empty or near empty return flights at night just to get the plane at the right airport for start of day.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: EV Smugmobiles

              Yeah but apples to apples. What's the efficiency of a 747 when it's towing Jeremy Clarkson's caravan?

      2. Tom 38 Silver badge

        Re: EV Smugmobiles

        electric cars ideal for towing

        So your range is cut to 100 miles, you're towing a 6 metre long home on wheels, and you're queuing for a single parking bay fast charger at Reading services with 40 other cars. This does not sound ideal.

      3. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Re: EV Smugmobiles

        so it's a 5-year old diesel for me too

        Why not a 5-year old petrol or hybrid? Both are cleaner than a diesel.. (and yes, there are plenty of 5 year old hybrids on the second hand market)

      4. Bebu

        Re: EV Smugmobiles

        "One characteristic of electric cars is monstrous amounts of torque, with 100% availability all through the rev range (they don't have a torque curve they have a torque line), making electric cars ideal for towing."

        I assume a hybrid would be not too far behind an EV?

        I am guessing a hybrid is a conventional motor, a generator/alternator and battery powering an electric motor.

        The picture of a 747 (now 53 years old) towing Clarkson caravan over the Atlantic is priceless and I imagine that more than few would pay double to have Clarkson inside it.

    2. bigphil9009

      Re: EV Smugmobiles

      I’m no EV evangelist but even I think you might have pages…

    3. Joe W Silver badge

      Re: EV Smugmobiles

      Well, whoever does not see that there are applications where EVs (and quite often small EVs - and smaller cars in general) make sense and there are (at the same time) applications where they don't make sense (yet? hopefully at some point in time, I guess) is just not a person you want to (or even can) have a meaningful discussion about this. So, the "holier than thou" loons that (as you wrote) "fly to val d'Isere twice a year" (and additionally in Northern Hemisphere summer to New Zealand or Australia) faction can please shut up (as can the "EVs suckerz ballz" people).

      Short(er) commute? Chance to charge at home? Get an EV, a smaller one (Nissan Leaf, or the small VW, I think it's called eUp, or even the small Twizzy, with added doors and windows). Long distance, hauling a caravan? Nope, I don't think an EV is for you. And then there is a whole spectrum in between. What about maintaining your old car, which you don't use too often, but has an ICE vs. buying a completely new EV, for the few 1000 km you drive each year?

    4. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      Re: EV Smugmobiles

      I can tell you that I've not been on a plane since 1998

      Neither have I. But I also don't have a dirty old diesel smogging up the place..

      (Of all the ICE engined vehicles, diesel produces the most pollution. Even newer ones.. especially ones that haven't had the cheat-to-pass-emissions-tests settings removed)

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    EV shopping carts, great!

    They fail at serious road trips and especially at towing.

    They fail at heavy transport.

    They fail at being affordable for the common folk.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: EV shopping carts, great!

      Electric HGVs are appearing for shuttling goods even though they have roughly 100 mile range

      https://www.electrive.com/2022/01/04/tesco-and-fsew-put-37-tonne-daf-evs-into-operation/

      It's a start..

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: They fail...

      Yeah yeah, and that new fangled "internal" combustion engine isn't going to get you as far as a horse.

  11. ComputerSays_noAbsolutelyNo Silver badge

    As owner of Twatter

    no stats on his popularity on said Twatter are to be trusted.

    I mean, which pub owner would trash talk the beer they serve?

  12. Big_Boomer Silver badge

    Car crash

    Of course he has lots of followers. Everyone LOVES to ogle a car crash. Next thing he'll be changing his name to tW@ and having his face striped to prove that he is ambivalent. The countdown continues. <LOL>

  13. Michael Strorm Silver badge

    Weirdly angular aesthetic of Cybertruck makes me nostalgic for...

    ...the vehicles in "Mercenary III" on the Amiga- like this car or this bus.

    (Looks worse emulated too crisply on a modern hi-res display than it did on a regular CRT at the time. Great game, regardless).

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Weirdly angular aesthetic of Cybertruck makes me nostalgic for...

      Ooooooh, of course. I'm glad you posted that! Here on the right side of the pond, a truck is something used for heavy haulage. The "Cybertruck" is that over-sized car thing. I had completely the wrong image in my head. I thought that was about the big heavy haulage truck he's also developing.

      1. Michael Strorm Silver badge

        Re: Weirdly angular aesthetic of Cybertruck makes me nostalgic for...

        I'm in Scotland, and- assuming that's what you're referring to- I'd have called such a thing a "lorry". I always thought that "truck" in that sense was more of an Americanism.

        I'd assumed that everyone had seen the image of the Cybertruck because it was in the middle of the article, but checking now I realise it was actually in the middle of one of the linked articles. Here's a direct link to the Tweet from Elmer Fud himself.

        I can't work out whether that thing is brilliant or awful, but I sure as **** can't imagine a builder tossing sacks of cement mix into the back of it.

  14. Captain Scarlet Silver badge
    Coat

    I do wonder

    How many followers are bots

  15. drand

    Temper your Cybertruck expectations better than its windows

    Bravo, a pun worthy of the old Reg.

    (Yes that is a back-handed compliment)

  16. tiggity Silver badge

    Followers

    "Let me check my Twitter account. OK, so I've got 127 million followers. It continues to grow very rapidly. That suggests that I'm reasonably popular," Musk said

    Do we know what's going on with his Twitter changes? *

    * Not a social media user so no idea what's going on, I have read people moaning that his tweets seem to show in their app even though they don't follow him - so wondered if he has had devs do something to make his visibility artificially prominent on peoples apps (which may help him to potentially get new followers)

    1. Mage
      FAIL

      Re: Followers, what's going on?

      Erratic and lots of U-turns.

      If it was car driving you'd be arrested

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Alert

      Re: Followers

      "Let me check my Twitter account. OK, so I've got 127 million followers. It continues to grow very rapidly."

      Hey Elon, let me check my Twitter account. OK, so I've got no Twitter account. Happy days, life goes on

  17. Mage
    Coat

    Tweets and Telsa

    Perhaps Ford will outlast Tesla because Henry never tweeted?

    1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Re: Tweets and Telsa

      Perhaps Ford will outlast Tesla because Henry never tweeted?

      Henry used the Tweet technology of the day, and bought the Dearborn Independent. Much as with Musk, or maybe some other newspaper owners, his thoughts were just a tad controversial, and would result in it swiftly being cancelled today. And Ford probably, and probably rightly, arrested. In many respects he may have been a good businessman, but he wasn't a very nice guy.

  18. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Alert

    Embarrassed Tesla Driver!

    'Elon Musk has made me embarrassed to drive my Tesla now'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64376727

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