Oracle in Byzantine overpriced license shocker. Bears are still using the woods as necessary after their morning coffee.
Quickest way to save with Oracle? Get off Unlimited Licensing Agreements, says pundit
The quickest way to save money on Oracle licences is to get off its Unlimited Licensing Agreements, a well placed Big Red audit expert claims. According to Oracle, its ULA agreements are "generally considered an easy way for a large, global organization to support business agility and value creation." It claimed [PDF] one …
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Tuesday 17th January 2023 06:24 GMT Bebu
Re: Quickest way to save with Oracle?
I always wondered whether big red learnt some its tricks from big blue :)
I remember back in the early 90s we had 4 or 5 ibm aix workstation (rs6k) which only ran some sort of 3D modelling software (ibm license - one off payment) but required a rdbms backend (db2?) for which there was an annual maintenance license $4000-5000 (1990s dollars) per year. I was approached to see if postgres could replace the ibm rdbms which it appeared that it could as it only did simple sql queries and inserts (oracle would have done the job too - had site license then.)
Turned out that ibm held that not paying the rdbms license maintenance would revoke the application's license - so pretty much shafted. I don't know the ultimate outcome as I departed for different, but not greener, fields.
I suppose the workstations were eventually e-wasted and problem solved.
I guess when you sup with large american corporations you do need a very long spoon. Actually Lucifer might be preferable to Larry.
Did Larry get some of twitter or was the cheque postdated? ;)
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Tuesday 17th January 2023 16:07 GMT Mike 137
I'm amazed, simply amazed!!!!
"whatever you spend with Oracle on-prem, say a million dollars a year, Oracle wants you to give up all those licences and move to the cloud and spend three to four million"
Three to four million right now, but next year ... IT is for the vendor, not the user. Once the have you by the balls, they don't give a shit about your hearts and minds.
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Tuesday 17th January 2023 18:30 GMT Lost Neutrino
Re: I'm amazed, simply amazed!!!!
"Once the have you by the balls, they don't give a shit about your hearts and minds."
Oh, how cynical! Oracle's cloud pricing advertising states clearly:
* better price-performance
* makes it simple to save money
* greater cost effectiveness
They wouldn't try to fib about that, would they?
Incidentally, I thought what Hacker actually said was: "Once you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow" (or wallets, in cloud customers' case)
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Wednesday 18th January 2023 03:40 GMT oldCynic();
I kind of get the Postgress slingers point, but it's hiding a few truths. In a ULA, you get all you can eat for a limited period of time, say three years, upon the end of such period there is a tally up. Regardless of if you have deployed 1 core or 10,000 cores, you keep paying the same dollar figure to keep using that quantity. If you want to keep growing, you sign up another ULA for another period of time and so on ad infinitum. Most customers are savvy enough to deploy quite a lot more than they actually need prior to tally up time. ULA's are one of the few ways you can beat O at the licensing game. I'm surprised they're still offered.
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Tuesday 24th January 2023 02:25 GMT Dideyesneeze
The quickest way to save on Oracle?
The value of a (P)ULA is maximized the moment you sign it. So terminate and certify.
The value of support is $0 if you standardize on 12.2 with an archive of upgrades and patches. So cancel.
This article was relevant 20+ years ago when Oracle was innovating its database. Not so much anymore.