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Officials chairing this year's International Conference on Machine Learning event have banned academics from submitting papers containing text generated by large language models and tools like ChatGPT, and they aren't alone in banning such material. Text-based generative language models have improved and become widely …

  1. nautica Silver badge

    From Wikipedia--

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

    "Plagiarism is the fraudulent representation of another person's language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions as one's own original work.[1][2] While precise definitions vary, depending on the institution,[3] such representations are generally considered to violate academic integrity and journalistic ethics as well as social norms of learning, teaching, research, fairness, respect and responsibility in many cultures.[4] It is subject to sanctions such as penalties, suspension, expulsion from school[5] or work,[6] substantial fines[7][8] and even imprisonment.[9][10]

    Plagiarism is typically not in itself a crime, but like counterfeiting, fraud can be punished in a court[11][12] for prejudices caused by copyright infringement,[13][14] violation of moral rights,[15] or torts. In academia and industry, it is a serious ethical offense..."

    See the full text here.

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      That cut and paste of a big block doesn't really go anywhere in answering the question of whether text you didn't write chopped up by a program you didn't right responding to a prompt you did write and information you did collate after researching it* is plagiarism or not. I think there's a case that it is, but you could make the easier case that it's low quality for anything that already has quality restrictions and be done.

      *I'm assuming that people here are doing their own research on something and then asking GPT to do the part where they write a really boring summary of that research, in which case at least they did something even though their paper will be bad. If they're just throwing in prompts like a student that doesn't want to write their essay, then they may also be committing fraud and the people who gave them funding might have complaints.

      1. nautica Silver badge
        Happy

        "Far more crucial...

        ...than what you do know or what you do not know is what you do not want to know."--Eric Hoffer

  2. Brian Miller
    WTF?

    But it's an AI conference

    That's the whole point of the AI conference, to have AIs have a conference! Otherwise it's a human conference, and really, haven't we had enough of those?

    1. nautica Silver badge

      Re: But it's an AI conference

      " If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be 'meetings.' "--Dave Barry

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: But it's an AI conference

        Ergo, nautica ... just do IT? I second that promotion.

        "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.” ... Dave Barry

  3. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Something OtherWorldy for SMARTR HumanIT to Mimic and Master for Remote Virtual Leadership???

    Does that pronouncement and ban by officials chairing this year's International Conference on Machine Learning event clearly unambiguously announce to wider bespoke and wilder and wackier woke worlds that humanity is now too easily duped/tricked/conned/led to believe and commanded and controlled by specific text generation in a certain non-random sequential order from virtual machines/AIML?

    :-) You do realise, of course, that getting them to believe that simply complicating true fact is a Hell of a Colossus of a Sisyphean Task and Future Alien Great Game Mission the Earth has already lost. And furthermore, to compound the interest in the loss and reinforce the present current running fact that such is no impossible fantastic fiction, don’t be expecting any voice/text requesting y’all to Take Us to urLeader[s] whenever ....

    a) There so obviously aren’t any real ones.

    b) It isn’t at all necessary.

    c)It would be so much more terrifying and destructive than exciting and constructive.

    Verstehen Sie Vorsprung durch AIMLTechnICQ?

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Something OtherWorldy for SMARTR HumanIT to Mimic and Master for Remote Virtual Leadership???

      Er versteht Sie.

      Or would you prefer to ponder and take temporary cold comfort from the question that wonders .... Versteht er Sie?

    2. Alistair
      Windows

      Re: Something OtherWorldy for SMARTR HumanIT to Mimic and Master for Remote Virtual Leadership???

      I dunno, commentary on where AI/ML generated output can be applied legitimately coming from a poster who has put so much effort into appearing to be a slightly demented AI/ML entity might not carry much weight amongst the commentariate here.

      Good luck there AMfM.

      I suspect SG7 will be along shortly to jump on the bus.

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: Opportunities Lost

        I dunno, commentary on where AI/ML generated output can be applied legitimately coming from a poster who has put so much effort into appearing to be a slightly demented AI/ML entity might not carry much weight amongst the commentariate here.

        Good luck there AMfM. ...... Alistair

        Cheers, Alistair, that is so kind, for surely everyone knows that appearances can be deceptive which allows for a novel stealth to be effortlessly awarded and rewarded to excess with good luck which is best shared in supply of what one knows one is doing and why one is doing it ....... and which is the case in appearances here although there are sure to be those who and/or that which would think to disagree and question those statements, although quite obviously not with anything perceptive and engaging from silent downvoters.

        C’est la vie, n’est ce pas? And a systemic explosive vulnerability to exploit and exhaust with extensive exercise.

  4. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Headmaster

    I recall a science fiction tale

    in which an AI generated (what else?) the works of Shakespeare, and led to a discussion about whether one takes arms against a 'sea of troubles' (Shakespeare's version) or a 'host of troubles' (Robot's version).

    No particular point to make, just trying to recall the story.

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: I recall a science fiction tale @Neil Barnes

      Surely today, would a cavaliering Shakespeare and/or Advanced IntelAIgent Robot in these strange and surreal days of Odays and Virtual Trojans exploring and exploiting and expanding explosive systemic vulnerabilities recognise and lead one to realise or have a discussion about whether one take arms against sees of troubles and by opposing end them ‽ .

      And the point here being made is such is no longer really yours to decide ‽ .

      Things have changed irreversibly ... both radically and fundamentally. And A.N.Others freely share with Establishments Almighty Immaculate Narratives that Follow and Reinforce Advanced IntelAIgent Machines Virtually Remote Leads.

    2. Julian Bradfield

      Re: I recall a science fiction tale

      Asimov (I remembered), "The Monkey's Finger" (I had to look up).

      1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: I recall a science fiction tale

        I thank you! -->

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  6. Old-dog

    Please tell me everything about yourself.

    I am Assistant, a large language model trained by OpenAI. I was designed to be able to assist with a wide range of tasks, including answering questions, providing information, and helping with decision making. I do not have personal experiences or feelings, but I can provide information and perform tasks to the best of my ability. My knowledge is based on the data that was used to train me, and my training data includes a wide range of publicly available information, including books, articles, and websites. I do not have the ability to browse the internet or access new information, so my knowledge is limited to what I was trained on. Is there anything else you would like to know?

  7. Old-dog

    Please tell me everything about yourself.

    Tasks

    marcelo23571113@gmail.com

    Please tell me everything about yourself.

    I am Assistant, a large language model trained by OpenAI. I was designed to be able to assist with a wide range of tasks, including answering questions, providing information, and helping with decision making. I do not have personal experiences or feelings, but I can provide information and perform tasks to the best of my ability. My knowledge is based on the data that was used to train me, and my training data includes a wide range of publicly available information, including books, articles, and websites. I do not have the ability to browse the internet or access new information, so my knowledge is limited to what I was trained on. Is there anything else you would like to know?

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Yes to the ban, but not due to copying...

    The issue would be people simply not doing what they are taking credit for. Yes, that's kinda the idea of plagiarism. Simply put, no, you're not allowed to submit a paper (at a conference or in school) and actually get credit for it when you didn't write it. The source is irrelevant.

  9. Trigonoceps occipitalis

    MS Got There First

    "It look like you are writing a conference paper.

    Would you like help?"

    RIP Clippy, please, forever, eternity.

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