'Multiple security breaches' shut down trucker protest An anti-government protest by truckers in Canada has been called off following "multiple security breaches," according to organizers, who also cited "personal character attacks," as a reason for the withdrawal. Canada Unity, one of the groups that organized last year's so-called Freedom Convoy - during which truckers and …
It's Canada. The native population show up for almost everything. Great reason for a drum circle.
Now, I don't agree with the crap the truckers put out, but I do support their right to free speech. The ability to intimidate people to silence is what Snowden warned us about. Silencing critics is a slippery slope and not just for governments.
The only thing they are "unified" by here in Canada is their hatred of Trudeau; 99% of the protestors are Conservative voters who still can't accept that they lost the last election. Anger and hatred may "unify" people, but it isn't a unity I want to see in my nation of Canada.
Wow, I have to say I'm really disappointed in how many anti-vax twats are reading The Register. The site is great, and I thought the readership in general were better than this. Of course there's a lot of commenters making the sane points, but there's more crazy MAGA/Brexiters than I expected. I guess tech does attract more than its fair share of Dunning–Krugers.
The entire point of the 'Freedom' Convoy was that vaccines are more dangerous than COVID-19. That's a direct attack on science, because science says that unvaccinated people died more than 10 to 1 from COVID compared to vaccinated people. Everyone getting vaccinated is a 100% societal good and personal good - everyone wins, and might actually stop COVID, like Polio. We'll never know, because the anti-vaxxers mean we can never reach enough immunity.
Unfortunately, Canada imported America's MAGA dumbf#$@ery, like they're a US colony, and couched this as 'mah freedumbs'. The majority of Canadians who believe this twaddle are old uneducated white people who also are very scared of the brown people overtaking them and think they need to be dealt with. You could easily see this in the Freedumb Convoy videos. You had a few token First Nations who like protesting things, but it's mostly just old uneducated white people screeing about Bill Gates microchips in the vaccines.
It was old uneducated white people mounting a show of solidarity against educated people and brown people who threaten their livelihoods.
Ah, the 'everyone else is wrong cos they are thickos' argument.
The polio vaccine actually works at stopping people getting polio and doesn't need to be boosted every 6 months. All the actual evidence about the covid vaccine is you can still get it, can still spread it and it might help you not get as sick.
The entire point of the 'Freedom' Convoy was that vaccines are more dangerous than COVID-19. That's a direct attack on science, because science says that unvaccinated people died more than 10 to 1 from COVID compared to vaccinated people. Everyone getting vaccinated is a 100% societal good and personal good - everyone wins, and might actually stop COVID, like Polio. We'll never know, because the anti-vaxxers mean we can never reach enough immunity.
Where is the evidence that “ people died more than 10 to 1 from COVID compared to vaccinated people.”
That is misinformation unless backed up by some citation.
Science works by challenging a hypothesis. You have a claim, try your hardest to disprove it, if you can’t then it’s likely true.
Build credibility in your work by detailing what you did and have others repeat your work and check they have the same outcomes and conclusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Your interpretation is not science, it’s more religious devotion to what some stranger said without ever looking to see if it’s true or accurate.
The various agencies NIH/UKHSA etc are meant to be looking into these things in our behalf but have resisted doing so. By not investigating they have reduced trust in their impartial recommendations.
"as we enter year three of the COVID-19 pandemic, the convoy may well also be about bringing people together for yet another superspreader event."
Seriously, Jessica? Some random folks are coordinating to drive their semi's around in Winnipeg in a symbolic (mostly useless) protest and you feel the need to bring out one of the fear-porn tropes from 2020 to attempt to justify your dislike of anyone questioning the government? (President Xi is nodding in approval for you, by the way.) Where were your tirades about superspreader events going into Christmas or gatherings for the World Cup? I must have missed the torrential wave of COVID hospitalizations overwhelming the NHS in the weeks following the Queen's burial or England's loss in the Cup. I'd wager more called in hung over than ever did with COVID.
The only thing that spreads faster than the COVID virus or conspiracy theories is your kind of mob group-think. Science is fundamentally about questioning assumptions. Bullies shut that down.
So what of it? It's their decision to not get a jab and to commingle. Freedom of expression and choice is a hallmark of liberal western democracies. Although I've had three jabs, I'm not one force others to do the same. I'll choose when/whether to mask and with whom to socialize. The totalitarians are those who take away that choice.
>. Freedom of expression and choice is a hallmark of liberal western democracies.
Exactly, these treasonous colonials are forced by a totalitarian government to drive in the wrong side of the road. As a free born Englishman I choose to drive on the left.
"Liberty consists in being able to do anything that does not harm others". If refusing to be vaccinated leads to deprive other people from the basic liberty to live, is this really freedom?
Freedom is not the right to do whatever you want without any restriction.
comments of anti-vaxxers, or those who only reject _mandatory_ jabs, usually get downvoted to hell... not sure why people cannot try to believe that vax is more of protecting people against serious symptoms and less of against transmission (at least this is said by some of the medical doctors here in hong kong).
so, yes, anyone can jab how many times they want to be, well, protected and since it's more of protecting yourself, it's seems a bit far-fetched to force other people to get the jab to... protect themself?
it's seems like in a cold day you wear warm clothes to protecting you against catching flu or whatever, and then you make illegal for people to wear their short sleeve clothes to get outside.
this sort of logic applies equally to the vaccine pass... if you have got enough jabs and you believe the jab works as advertised, you should be less worrisome of getting covid and how come the government need the vax pass to protect... the vaxxed?
anyway, hopefully covid is almost over and both the vaxxed and un-vaxxed can enjoy life together, under the same sky.
But now we have overloaded hospitals and people very ill or dead due to the lockdowns stopping pretty much all routine medical care. And lets not forget the unexplained excess deaths for unknown reasons.
We will never know if the reduction in hospitalisations was due to the vaxx or simply due to covid mutating into a less serious version combined with natural immunity. Numbers were very skewed in the USA where there were financial incentives to put people into ICU.
>We will never know if the reduction in hospitalisations was due to the vaxx or simply due to covid mutating into a less serious version combined with natural immunity.
Bullshit. Stop lying. And learn about freaking temporal causality while we're at it. We know with absolute certainty that vaccines and appropriate policies were what reduced hospitalizations. Denying this fact is like denying gravity or evolution.
That I seriously wonder about my neighbors out west. Sigh, like we needed more of this crap to deal with.
For the record, many people around these parts have termed these folks as “freedumies”. Mostly because they are protesting for nothing. There are no mandates or restrictions anymore, they have nothing to protest about.
But if you must make a nuisance of yourselves, could you please keep it civil?
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I guess to the surprise of no one, it seems the comment section has been taken over by the karen convoy so they can drown out actual conversations.
Drowning discourse with lies and misinformation is the only way for these people to approximate legitimacy. They are driven by conspiracy theories, and their end goal is to embrace the worst that the fascist alt-right has to offer.
The hilarious/sad part is that these people have so little introspection (or knowledge of history) that they will never realize that they are the modern day equivalent of pre-nazi germany SS soldiers.
They disrupted a major city and tortured (yes you assholes, you TORTURED them, despite your pathetic spin attempts) for almost a month. They used their own children as god damned human shields. These people are genuinely psychotic. A lot of these bastards either aren't even Canadian, or are at the bottom of the idiot curve because they keep citing US regulations.
The real reason they aren't going to Ottawa is that the citizens now know that Ottawa gov and Ontario gov will _not_ protect them, which means a whole lot of people are going to take the law into their own hands if they try to pull a stunt like this again.
Hmm... most of the lies and misinformation has been coming from the 'political left' along with the Karen/SS style behaviour. Those having the meltdowns were most likely the masked. The residents of cities such as Portland have been tortured for best part of 5-6 years now by the pantifa types having their meltdown about not getting their way in the elections.
But the political right have 1 protest, nothing gets destroyed, people have a good time and it is the WORST THING EVARRRR, like, oh my god how dare they not be like totally miserable like I am...
Hmmmm, I wonder what playbook you've been reading.
"accuse the other side of that which you are guilty"
So, Anonymous Coward, what I'd really like to know is are you just a Useful Idiot, or do you actually work for the FBI or CIA? As we now know they had around 80 full time agents working on Social Media, would they dedicate a few minutes time to scour The Reg forums and dis anything which doesn't fit the story they are trying to push?
Because it was Trudeau and the Canadian press (and plenty of others) who were spreading misinformation. Calling the truckers misogynist and racist and all these other horrible baseless accusations.
Or am I being REALLY paranoid now?
Remember the supposed arson attack on an apartment building? Where one of the residents walks past the person trying to start a fire in the lobby and then tweets the police the next morning. I know those crazy hosers are laid back but seriously that is taking it to a whole new level.
Did I mention the part about conspiracy theories and the lack of knowledge of history? Oh right, I did. Thank you for proving my point.
The reality of the situation is that the truckers were nowhere near as nice as you want them to believe. They did everything they could to make sure focus remained on the epicentre where they made it one big party, but the surrounding areas were not having nearly as good a time.
> "accuse the other side of that which you are guilty"
Yeah speak for yourself bud. To quote the judge to Alex Jones: "Just because you believe something to be true, doesn't make it true."
Trudeau is lying? Canadian Press is lying? Lemme guess... All the other news agencies are probably lying too right?
Funny how anyone that doesn't tell you what you want to hear is lying. But please, do go on about how _I'm_ the useful idiot.
You're not being paranoid. You're being willfully ignorant because everyone needs to be the hero in their own story and you can't handle the fact that you are actually the bad guy here.
Be good little slaves and do as you are commanded, or your quality of life will be reduced even more than being forced to take secret drugs and cover your face. We will put you in a box where nobody can see you and make you suffer. Now get off the computer, get in the truck and drive. If I have to tell you again, I will lock up everyone you know and tell them it's your fault. And cover your face! only politicians are good enough looking to go without mask.. stupid commoners.
You know, you could have quite a lot of fun setting up websites for these nutjobs, and then having "technical issues" just as their plans were about to come to fruition. Of course, letting the PTB and the PIC listen in on a side channel is a temptation to which you should not succumb.
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