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Analyst firm Forrester predicts that despite recent mass layoffs across the tech sector, the jobs market will continue to favor IT professionals in 2023. "In spite of the softening macroeconomic environment, you still see a lot of tension in the market for skills and talent," said Forrester vice president Frederic Giron …

  1. trevorde Silver badge

    This tweet hasn't aged well

    "I would like to apologize for firing these geniuses. Their immense talent will no doubt be of great use elsewhere"

    Elon Musk

  2. msknight

    If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

    ...then they should offer a decent wage. In my area infrastructure engineer positions are paying less than the NHS.

    1. dvd

      Re: If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

      Every place that I've ever worked has complained about the difficulty in recruiting engineers. They're being disingenuous. They have difficulty recruiting for the wages that they want to pay.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

      With more than 2,000 NHS managers on six figure salaries and most of the frontline workers electing to strike if they don't receive inflation busting pay rises, I would say there will be fewer and fewer private sector roles that can compete!

      1. msknight

        Re: If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

        Some would say that it's, "catch up," with the private sector; in fact, not even catching up even - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63400845

    3. spireite Silver badge

      Re: If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

      I had a look at the tech jobs in the NHS.

      While I expected them to be slightly below industry standard, nothing prepared me for how far below they actually were. Nobody normal would accept that, unless working for the NHS for 'philanthropy' reasons.

    4. Lil Endian Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

      I'm more than happy to not be first in with this, adding my voice. Apols, almost certainly going to be a rant.

      "We need hundreds of thousands of people," said Giron, who predicted... think [ed: lmfao]... how they can create pools of talent – drawing on freelancers, vocational schools, and automating processes.

      A. Stop shedding the contemporary talent, and pay them appropriately. [See G]

      B. Certainly your endeavours will not impact the skill base (AKA "pools of talent") other than negatively. [See A]

      C. You're aiming to leech cheap labour. [See A]

      "CISOs are also concerned about who is accessing their data, how they're accessing the company networks, and how the authentication gets done," said Ehsan.

      D. Erm, yarp! That's their fekkin jobs! Well spotted pal!

      "There's this whole class of AI algorithms called generative AI, which is kind of having its moment in the sun right now," said principal analyst Leslie Joseph.

      E. AI? Intelligence? Come up with a relevant definition of "intelligence". You're bandying acronyms around. I'm confident the "artificial" bit you know.

      F. "TuringBots" - Idly speaketh not the name of a genuine talent, genius and a founding father.

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      G. [Out-of-band] Pay NHS nurses and support staff their worth. (Beyond Forrester's scope.)

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      Conclusion: mealymouthed weasel words from talentless crotch pheasants.

      [Eg: "In spite of the softening macroeconomic environment, you still see a lot of tension in the market for skills and talent," Tension? Gross.]

      /end-rant ~ flame away

      1. captain veg Silver badge

        Re: If they want to solve the shortage of staff...

        You could have saved a lot of typing by writing just one word: Forrester.

        -A.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I feel like senior leadership have nothing to fear from AI taking over.

    Writing AI to be venal and illogical enough to effectively take over from the executive suite feels improbable.

  4. DS999 Silver badge

    Remote work

    I'll bet that a greater percentage of those being laid off by tech companies are the ones working remotely. That will automatically increase the percentage working from the office, so they can say "remote working is becoming less popular among our workforce" plus the remaining remote workers will see who got the ax and may be less resistant to calls to return to the office.

  5. ecofeco Silver badge

    Exactly

    The labor shortage is huge.

    I have never seen a better time to look for a better job in 40 years.

  6. Brad16800

    I've had a chat with HR recently along the lines of "i'm not planning on leaving but I can get 20-30% more with less responsibility" with 100's of jobs in my area looking.

    I don't like the unknown of changing to another company but there is only so long you can stay when costs are going up and you know you can make more elsewhere.

    What gets me is if I do leave they'll not be able to get someone for less than what I'd like so seems like a no brainer to keep me happy and with the company instead of needing to hire and train up a replacement.

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