back to article Evernote's fall from grace is complete, with sale to Italian app maker

Note-taking app Evernote, once a darling of busy tech aficionados, announced the end of its 14-year run as an independent company today with its sale to Italian mobile app company Bending Spoons. It's an ignoble end for once-great Evernote, which as recently as 2018 – its tenth anniversary – boasted some 225 million registered …

  1. Gordon 10

    Funnily enough

    My Dad who’s never met a click box he can say no to just phoned me to ask what Evernote is as the latest browser hijacker he has inadvertently installed keeps trying to prompt him to install it.

    How the mighty have fallen.

  2. Fonant
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    As title. Works well for me.

    1. Archivist

      Re: Joplin

      Seconded, and I can use whatever cloud service I want for sync.

      It's so good that I worry that it can't stay free for ever - I did give a small donation.

      1. UrbaneSpaceman

        Re: Joplin

        Yeah, me too.

        It was the train-crash that was Evernote V10 that pushed me over to Joplin.

        It has a few oddities, but it's free and it does the job.

        1. Tascam Holiday

          Re: Joplin

          I did the same, though I haven't completed my migration to Joplin. I was a paying EN user since 2007 but stopped when V10 came out.

      2. Bitbeisser

        Re: Joplin

        Well, I was looking into using Joplin as well, however having to deal with setting up an additional cloud service is a bit of a PITA. The nice thing about Evernote is/was that you just installed one app and you're done.

    2. elDog

      Re: Joplin

      And it's open source with a very active community. You can run local-only or sync to any number of devices via most cloud services.

      I do miss many of the UI features that I had gotten used to in Evernote. Since Joplin is Electron based it seems heavier and doesn't have as many features. Still you can't beat the price (0) and the support.

  3. ThatOne Silver badge


    > Frustrate enough users and your product will fall.

    Yes, but you're forgetting the prime requirement is to be "disruptive" and to break things (while moving too fast in random directions)...

    1. Little Mouse

      Re: Irrelevant

      Looks like some "disruption" may be just around the corner...

      "another reason Evernote may have lost its luster over the past few years: A lack of new features."

      New Features. Because that's what we're all crying out for from a Notepad app, right?

      1. Ozan

        Re: Irrelevant

        It's a note-taking app. What else it will bring? E-mail?

        1. John Riddoch

          Zawinki's Law...

          “Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.”

          1. Gerhard den Hollander

            Re: Zawinki's Law...

            They tried to make evernote read your email , as well as read all your other data ...

            did not go well

        2. chivo243 Silver badge

          Re: Irrelevant

          Calendar? Todos? messaging?

        3. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge

          Re: Irrelevant

          Word-processing abilities, based on MS Word technology

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: Irrelevant

            Joke-Alert icon insufficient to protect against Poe's Law, apparently.

        4. that one in the corner Silver badge

          Re: Irrelevant

          How about adding rendering of diagrams written in pic, chem, eqn and the like?

          Bring back the classics, easier to than dragging shapes with fat fingers.

  4. Greybearded old scrote Silver badge

    Found an interesting explanation recently

    It's been dubbed the trust thermocline.

    1. DJV Silver badge

      Re: Found an interesting explanation recently

      Very interesting - thanks for bringing that term to our attention. A combination of this and "biting the hand that feeds you" is probably behind a good number of failures.

      Of course, when "biting the hand that feeds you" is what your users love and have come to expect... and then you stop doing that very thing, might also be a reason why other things (well, one in particular - not mentioning any names) feel like they are slowly failing and fading away.

    2. Michael Strorm Silver badge

      *Why* the "thermocline" is so sudden... the network effect breaking

      I suspect that the red line of unacceptability wouldn't be as sharp if users were operating in isolation, though.

      The thing that link doesn't address which I think *does* apply in many cases- something likely to significantly exacerbate the "thermocline"-style sudden cutoff- is our old friend the network effect. Many people will stick with a service and be less likely to move because it's what everyone else is using.

      The more people move away and voice their dissatisfaction, the more that alternative services not only become more visible, but also more *viable* due to their increased userbase. And the more that problems with the original service become prominent.

      The network effect counteracts this... but only up to a point. Once you cross that point- and it isn't necessarily going to be obvious beforehand- it'll exceed the ability of the network effect to counteract and dampen it, and you'll get a runaway chain reaction of more and more people leaving because more and more people are leaving.

      In other words, things will happen *fast*.

      Of course, you can help force that point by doing something that forces dissatisfaction and brings it and discussion of alternatives to the surface. (Perhaps we can think of a recent example where this was the case, hmm...?)

      And, of course, once the network effect is no longer working *for* you, it works *against* you. Strongly.

      1. jonathan keith

        Re: *Why* the "thermocline" is so sudden... the network effect breaking

        ... see also 'tipping point' and 'cascade effect'.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: *Why* the "thermocline" is so sudden... the network effect breaking

          Little more of the second than the first, as the cascade part actually matches the effect of crossing to the "other side" of graph from where the dampening effects are keeping the system stable. Once you hit the other side the system goes from looking stable and linear to unstable and hyperbolic(in the quadrant and direction you don't want to find in graphs of your financials)

          This is a management brain killer, because they just can't seem to grasp the idea of that cliff before they are on the other side of it. The just think that doing .25x of a thing people hate worked and upped profits by 10%, so doing 5x will be fine right?

          These mechanics are barely complex enough to count as complex systems, but have killed how many companies, nations, jobs, and even people? You may have finally stumbled across a good candidate for the "Great Filter"

      2. Filippo Silver badge

        Re: *Why* the "thermocline" is so sudden... the network effect breaking

        > And, of course, once the network effect is no longer working *for* you, it works *against* you. Strongly.

        Bingo. Exponentials work both ways. When things go bad in a social network, they go bad hard and fast. The user base is also the user value. Once users start leaving, the value of the network for other users goes down. So they leave. So the value goes further down. So more users leave. And soon you're left with a wind-blasted wasteland.

    3. Juan Inamillion

      Re: Found an interesting explanation recently

      That's really interesting. Yes you could use 'tipping point' but that lacks the the catastrophic imperative of 'trust thermocline'. Or I may be talking bollox.

  5. mdubash

    Obviously, it can't have been worth it, for me, paying for when Evernote decided to limit the free tier to two devices as I switched to (eek!) OneNote in 2016. Veery happy with the experience, good UI, cross-platform, no device limit....

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      That's the thing, isn't it? After the obligatory three or four versions, MS finally knocked together a good enough copy and made it available for free which is enough to paper over the rest of the deficiencies.

      So it went with IE, so they did with OneNote, and so they're doing with Teams.

      You're either bought out by Apple, Microsoft, or Google or you just get trodden underfoot. Perhaps Evernote's management were lucky.

    2. Terry 6 Silver badge

      And so did I . I'm not fond of Onenote (Microsoft) and the Store version is just shitty.

      But it means that I can access or create a note on which ever device I'm using, phone,PC,Laptop,tablet/cloud

      Compared to Evernote's (then) ease of use it's poor and it's often very annoying in other ways too. But it does what I need.

      1. withQuietEyes

        I've been using Simplenote recently and I've found it very useful, although I don't have much to compare to (I have my phone with me everywhere and don't take a lot of notes, so I was just using Google Keep before). It doesn't have much in terms of features, but it does what it says and it does it very well

  6. wolfetone Silver badge

    It was a great application for just jotting stuff down in. It was lovely to use. But it became far too interested in trying to extract more money from me, constant emails demanding money, the tightening of the screws of how many devices could use it.

    In the end I just migrated it to Simple Note and haven't looked back.

    1. YetAnotherXyzzy

      You beat me to my recommendation of Simplenote, so have a beer. It doesn't have the many many bells and whistles of Evernote, which to me is a plus but might not be what others are looking for.

      1. wolfetone Silver badge

        Indeed, people like the idea of linking documents to it. That's fine. But I just want something to jot shit down on to.

        Have a beer yourself for being so lovely!

    2. Mayday Silver badge

      I totally forgot that I even had Evernote until I saw this article and remembered why I stopped using it.

      I'm going have a look at Simplenote now.

      1. Bitbeisser
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        I just did look at SimpleNote and installed it on 3 different devices. At least the install is easier than Joplin (no separate cloud service) and it works so far without a hitch (did only a couple test notes) on Windows and Android.

  7. Rich 2 Silver badge

    It’s a familiar story

    1 Make an application

    2 Improve it steadily and garner a loyal user base

    3 Wait a few years with nobody complaining

    4 Start to mess with the app. Nothing too bad at first

    5 Decide to “improve” the app by completely reworking it

    6 New “improved” app is now a dog’s dinner

    7 Throw in some privacy-invading features for no discernible legitimate reason

    8 Completely hack-off your users who leave en-mass

    9 Sell app at a knock-down price to some big corporation “to move the product forward”

    10 After a couple of years, kill the app and write it off as a tax loss

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sounds like MS Office for Android that came pre-installed. No connectivity? Now unusable.

      Sounds like Microsoft Office for Android that came pre-installed on my phone.

      Used if fine for several years, saving files locally, without the need for a Microsoft Account, with no mobile network / Wifi.

      Now I'm constantly prompted to create a Microsoft Account to even access the existing files I created and as read only. I don't want to use it with a Microsoft Account because I don't always have a mobile signal with my phone when I'm out and about, plus this software came pre-installed and features that were in the original preinstalled product have now been removed.

      The UK is still absolutely shite for Mobile even 5 miles from the centre of most towns, if the terrain is hilly.

      Microsoft employees, you live in a bubble that doesn't match any reality I know.

      Why aren't regulators bringing Microsoft to task for this, forcing Microsoft accounts, forcing lock out unless users provide a phone number, on the pretence of some fake security issue, something as basic as clearing cookies. Not fit for purpose, none of them.

    2. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: It’s a familiar story

      Nailed it perfectly.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      7. Throw in some privacy-invading features for no discernible legitimate reason

      In EN's case they announced #7 as a feature (and expected what!?). I wonder if some among the thriving competitors include #7 with nary an announcement about it?

    4. Richard Pennington 1

      Re: It’s a familiar story

      You missed one.

      4a. Remove or cripple the "free" / cheapest tier.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I know I'm supposed to be technically literate but I can't get my tiny mind around what the advantages are of collaborative editing. It appears to my limited intellect as nothing more than a dogs dinner producing dogs dinners. There's no overall point if document ownership or responsibility for a polished final product.

    I've seen the results of collaborative editing and they've been dire, with a mishmash of writing style, fonts, paragraph styles, justification, bulleting, numbering - the works.

    I couldn't let stuff like that go to customers and in the end the tool that became the one of choice was serial input to a document with teach changes enabled and the release via one defined person.

    It's probably something like how collaborative editing should work but that's not how it happens out of the box.

    1. Robert Grant

      I hate to fly the flag for Confluence, but it actually does this pretty well. I think because formatting is relatively constrained, you don't have to worry about some sort of Geocities abomination being produced, the way you do with Word.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Confluence - or pretty much an Wiki-style environment - is good for collaborating on a Page or set of Pages that are going to mostly be read online, but trying to get a proper "document" out of it is (was?) a pain in the backside. A document with the correct Corporate coversheet, dictionary of terminology, contents, appendices, index etc, that you can send off as a PDF to the auditor.

        I've got a pile of programs and scripts that can (well, could - 99% chance the format has changed again) collate Pages and add the missing bits to spit out a usable PDF. But only from a Confluence dump - trying to get it to work "live" within Confluence wasn't working (then I left the job - if there was still a free self-hosted tier I'd be tempted to keep this code going, but the Cloud kills).

        1. Robert Grant

          I work in the software as a medical device industry, and in a previous role, PDFing up a tree of Confluence pages formed a major part of our technical file. There were some more old school documents, but the content the important thing. You can add boilerplate to documents if you need to, as well.

    2. Timo

      its a cloud notebook for multiplatform/multiscreen

      Evernote is meant to be a cloud notebook, so that you could work on it from a mobile device to load notes and pictures and drawings, and then later could access from a tablet or desktop/laptop. One person I know took pictures of expense receipts with phone as they were collected, dropped them into a note, and then the receipts were all ready to load into the expense platform when convenient at desktop/office.

      Evernote picked a really bad time to try to charge for the platform, as Microsoft OneNote and Google Keep were knocked together pretty quickly and worked just fine, for the low low price of free.

      You can share notebooks from those, but its not usually the primary use case that you'd think of when you use it. My kids use it share their Christmas lists with the rest of the family.

    3. fidodogbreath

      Zero-sum competitive editing

      As a technical writer, I find that collaborative editing is somewhat useful for getting SMEs to contribute their real thoughts.

      To wit: Many software engineers that I have worked with grudgingly provide the bare minimum when asked for technical content; but when they open a collaborative edit and see that someone is wrong, they respond in much more detail. This produces an actual conversation of sorts -- mostly driven by endorphin hits from showing others just how smart they are, but whatever.

      Obviously I have to edit the doc extensively to make it usable, but at least I have the necessary content to work with.

      1. keithpeter Silver badge

        Re: Zero-sum competitive editing

        "[...] and see that someone is wrong, they respond in much more detail"

        Works with teenagers as well IRL and online. Never fails.

        Icon: Mostly retired teacher

        PS: For actual notes I use nano and rsync myself but there we are.

      2. nintendoeats Silver badge

        Re: Zero-sum competitive editing

        I used to be a techwriter, I can so deeply relate. Sometimes you have to nail the engineer to the floor and force them to give you real feedback. They start with "I read it, it's fine", but you start probing them on the accuracy of one sentence and by the end they have given you enough corrections to re-write half the content.

        Having jumped to writing software instead of documenting it, I've reached the conclusion that the engineers (at least where I work) don't have a culture of feedback anywhere as strong as what I've seen in what I'd call "commerical" liberal arts fields. Writing, visual art, music, theater...when I've studied these things, providing and receiving feedback was constantly hammered into us. From what I've seen, some software development cultures could really benefit from learning this ethos.

    4. withQuietEyes

      In every setting where I've used collaborative editing, it's just a matter of getting multiple people to contribute to one document. There's always a final owner who handles the last layer of polish before it goes out, but having collaborative tools (especially in school, where our quality standards were a bit lower) does make it a lot easier to get a report together. Formatting is obviously an issue, but it's the kind of issue that can be fixed reasonably quickly relative to the research/analysis that goes into the body of the paper.

      (And again in a school environment: it helps a lot to be able to see whether you're working with the kind of classmate who pastes shit in from Wikipedia. Learned that lesson pretty quick.)

    5. that one in the corner Silver badge

      Collaborative document:

      Markdown (or force a minimal subset of (La)TeX) with the file maintained in the VCS of your choice (I still like svn 'cos TortoiseSVN is simple enough for the non-techies: update and commit, simple words).

      Build machine (or cron or a never-ending Windows dot-bat) gets latest copy, tops and tails with cover sheet, contents, headers & footers, bibliography etc then formats it into PDF and HTML on the shared drive (whether that is LAN fileserver, DropBox or whatever) and website.

      For big docs, one input text file per chapter/section.

      For people editing on their phones & tablets, the tricky bit is the VCS - can probably bodge that with the Build job and per-person shared folders. Merge conflicts still painful.

  9. PhilipN Silver badge

    14 years? [shakes head in disbelief]

    One of those many millions of registered users for most of those 14 years. Have not used it for, I dunno, 10 years? Roughly from the second time they did something to p**s me off.

    1. HelpfulJohn

      Re: 14 years? [shakes head in disbelief]

      Can I do a "me too"?


      Me, too.

      Indeed, until I read this article, I'd forgotten I had Evernote bookmarked. Now, I'm wondering what I have saved there. :)

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    > wondering what became of the once-dominant platform

    The people in charge thought, "Ooh! Shiny!" and pursued shiny.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I was quite happy to pay for it back in the day. I really didn't mind paying for a service I used every day. It took notes. It formatted things well. It could preserve (or not!) formatting from other sources. It did checklists and other basic but useful things. It could encrypt sensitive data in-place. It had a neat interface for taking pictures and resizing them to be useful. It had passable OCR. It was very reasonably priced.

    And then the UI change. Good lord. I have a "Personal" notebook or three and I have a "Customer" notebook for each of my customers. Is there any way for me to see that on the landing page of the mobile app? Is there shite. It's going to show me my 2 (two!!!!) most recent notes used, give me another for "Suggested" (apparently a pure random number generator). To get to my notes as organised I have to click some breadcrumbs, "go to my notes", "Filter Notes..", "Located in..".

    Now you can (almost) fix this. Of course you can. You can customise the landing page with any combination of widgets you like. You can reorder them and so on... If you pay. The ability to access your notes in less than ten actions on a mobile is a fucking premium feature. Currently something like six of your local currency _every single month_.

    The whole app and user experience is just a giant pile of fuck you, and all you get for paying is slightly less fuck you.

  12. J. Cook Silver badge

    That reminds me, I need to remove what very little I put into my evernote and let it wither away.

    1. HelpfulJohn

      I have done that over the years with any number of file and image sharing applications.

      So far, I haven't missed them.

  13. Filippo Silver badge

    FWIW, the Covid app by Bending Spoons was surprisingly well done. It had a straightforward GUI, it didn't drain my battery, it didn't pester me with pointless notifications, it was open source and it didn't shift any of my personal data outside the phone. I think it even did a decent job of tracking who was near me, from looking at the files it accumulated, although I can't be sure because (see above) it took privacy seriously. It still failed, of course, but that was for... other reasons; from a technical standpoint, it was quite a bit better than I expected.

    1. HelpfulJohn

      Hmm, it alerted you to nearby plague-carrier but it also took privacy seriously.

      I see a little contradiction in there. :)

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Evernote was fine. Wish I could find something like OneNote desktop that wasn't OneNote desktop.

    Everything I try just seem to make a tree of directories full of MD files. I can do that myself.

  15. MachDiamond Silver badge

    I usually have my phone with me so keeping notes on it is obvious. I also have an iPod in the car for music and another for audiobooks. If I could back up my notes via BT or WF between the devices, I'd be all set. I'm far too down to Earth to have my head in the Clouds.

    I still like written notes. When I had a "real job", I'd keep my todo list on paper and update each day before I clocked out. I found pleasure in being able to pick up a pencil and line something out or to be able to add to an item some hints, doodles or whatever. No wimpy underlining for me, if I was going to underline something, it was going to be thick and bold. That pencil thing is very versatile and the battery never goes flat.

  16. Henry Wertz 1 Gold badge

    I used it for a while

    I used it for a while. I didn't stop because of the restrictions of basic (I was not attaching photos and docs other than once, just actually placing notes in it, and only had 1 mobile device so I was not restricted by the quite low sync limit.) I just found I quit using it after a while; I didn't need the notes I'd left in it any longer, and for my usual use case of wanting to type* in a quick note for later I can send a text to myself (Message+) or send to myself in Telegram. This is of course not very organized, but my random set of notes in Evernote wasn't either.

    *Every android phone I've had has had a keyboard as well as a few pre-Android models like LG VX9800...currently a Blackberry KeyOne, so I am actually typing notes and not tapping them in on an on screen keyboard.

    1. nintendoeats Silver badge

      Re: I used it for a while

      Currently using a Titan Pocket. Give me a keyboard or give me death.

      1. that one in the corner Silver badge

        Re: I used it for a while

        Titan Pocket? From the KS?

  17. 10111101101

    I hated it when they screwed over the users with one of their version upgrades in the app store

  18. Friendly Neighbourhood Coder Dan
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    Only one person can save Evernote

    Nothing personal against the Italians - me being one myself -, but the only human being that can bring Evernote back to its own splendor is Elon Musk.

  19. Andrew Barr

    I have recently swapped to Obsidian, it uses markdown language for notes and stores them locally so you don't need a Internet connect to access. But I sync mine through one drive to be available on all my devices. Also the files are all stored in pure text so can still be accessed if obsidian disappears in the future. Awesome product.

  20. WilfForrow

    As usual people who find Evernote pretty brilliant, like me, won't have time to post here. On the desktop it's brilliant anyway - the iOS version not so much and buggy, but I mostly use that just to refer to existing notes.

    The big disruption at v10 was to move to a single-source that behaved the same way across platforms. Every platform was different and incompatible. It couldn't go on. They bit the bullet, and playing with bullets means collateral damage.

    They just need to keep moving forward, fixing bugs, adding features, accepting that you can't please all of the people all of the time.

    Why does everyone expect everything for free? You know there's no such thing as a free lunch - right? When Google, Microsoft or any others say "Free", they really mean cross-subsidised from another income stream, abusing their market dominance to drive everyone else out of the market. Anti-Trust legislation says that's illegal, but everyone turns a blind eye to it because there would be uproar.

    1. dr john

      Well, it works for me!

      I have used the free version for 8 - 10 years. It does what I want. It takes notes, lets me copy and paste useful info I need for whatever small project I am working on, copy and paste from almost any source, searches through my notes, syncs with my tablet. When doing small jobs where the invoice is too small to bother sending and will be combined with the next one, I can add time taken per day until it is worth invoicing. It's not perfect, but it works for me as a one-man band. So I don't need the extras in the paid version, I don't need it on a dozen devices, just two (I'd prefer three, but I can live with two), I don't need ten people to access my notes, just me. I don't need huge data requirements each month. I can see how a small business might run into the data limit and need the paid version of course. And if the paid version is getting trickier to use, they might decide to switch apps.

      Yes, I've looked at alternatives but there's the learning curve and transfer of data from one system to another. And the possibility that something I do need is not available in an alternative. Because some alternatives are just too simple. I had planned to write my own web-based note-taker many years ago, as it is such a simple thing to do for a single user. And I have even seen simpler versions than I had planned becoming a business and getting sold for nice sums of money. But as Evernote works offline as well as online, I decided to drop my own online-only plans as I sometimes stay at a location with very poor wifi and phone connectivity.

      I have no plans at the present moment to close my free account, because it works. It's a shame that they overexpanded their nice paid app and lost customers. I hope the new owners don't scrap the things I like - free being the main one, and advert free of course - and that any updates are well-received by users. However I suspect that the new owners will eventually integrate it into one of their own apps and stop taking new Evernote paid subscriptions after that. Just paid versions of their own systems. Followed by no more free versions. I still recommend Evernote to friends who might move on to the paid version.

      And as I use LibreOffice, I'd need to switch back to MS Office to get an unlimited OneNote. Not sure I want to do that - I had a paid MS Office and the company I was working with forgot to update my licence, so I switched to LibreOffice to get work done while waiting, and stayed with it.

    2. Bullet Brown

      Gotta say I didn't realise Evernote was such yesterday's news. I have a paid account and use it all the time.

      It's annoying sometimes but no more than most software and it's very powerful where it's strong.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Came here to say the same thing - I've been a paying customer for a long time (maybe a decade?). Find it works perfectly for what I need. I use OneNote and Outline for other use cases but for saving recipes from web pages or taking a pic of something in a shop and filing it, Evernote is the best I have used

  21. steamdesk_ross

    Well, at least it wasn't Adobe

    I hope I don't have to migrate to something else... but as a desktop user I was let down acouple of years ago when they re-architectured for their Version 10, switching from C++ to an Elektron framework I believe, and I'm probably going to be let down even more going forward.

    Are there any good alternatives out there? Better still, good alternatives that can import an Evernote DB dump?

  22. Charles Smith

    Revenge of the Lotus Eaters

    Aww, I quite like it. Hopefully it does not go the way of Lotus Agenda. Sorry for the history lesson folks. ;-)

  23. Velv

    “Do not try and bend the spoon - that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.”

  24. fraunthall

    Evernote's Demise

    I re-considered Evernote recently because I haven't used it for so long. If I remember correctly it offered some useful means of sending full notes to other people, but I can't recall if it emulated FTP in some way.

    Nevertheless, I found a freeware Windows App called NotesMan. I like it a lot. See the following 2 search results:

    Download NotesMan - MajorGeeks

    NotesMan is a simple, open-source, note-taking manager for Windows. NotesMan is a portable app, so you can always take it with you or easily back up the app. NotesMan can take multiple notes. You begin by clicking Add and naming your note. From there, it's as straightforward as editing any text document. › 2020 › 09 › 04 › notesman-is-a-simple-and-open-source-note-taking-program-that-supports-autosave

    NotesMan is a simple and open source note taking program that supports ...

    NotesMan is a portable application. It is an open source tool written in Pascal. Aside from the lack of a warning about unsaved content, NotesMan is pretty good. The clutter-free GUI is nice, though it does come at the cost of the program being too simple.

    Once I found NotesMan I gave up looking further. The portable app option is a good one for me. It is pretty simple to back up your notes.

    Cheers to all and have a good Christmas in Europe (if that is possible).

    Fraunt Hall in the frozen wilds of Western Canada

  25. udance4ever

    took them 8 years

    I think it's hilarious, in 2022, they have finally gotten around to implementing collaborative editing.

    when a clan of Evernote Consultants realized they had no klout in the direction of Evernote (ie. how painful editing conflicts were & having to set up "rules" on who edits to use Evernote Business effectively - it was so backass backwards), a large majority of us jumped ship shortly after being certified in 2014!

  26. Kurgan

    Bundled ware is bad ware

    I have seen Evernote bundled on too many PCs and phones. And usually bundled software is very poor software, so I always avoided it.

  27. TryingSomethingNew


    Shame, I've been using Evernote since it was as standalone client - v1 point something (I still have the client and it still works). In those days their mantra was 'free for ever'. Unfortunately, when they introduced their paid tiers the lowest level was more than I could justify for my modest use and when they started restricting use I switched to OneNote - which I've never thought as good. Now I'm a heavy user but not about to go back.

    I noticed recently that they have further restricted use - it used to be two (three?) devices plus any device for the web version. Now its two devices full stop. Looks like I'd better find a way to export my old notes in case they disappear!

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