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AMD is investigating reports of "unexpected" variations in performance across the company's new Ryzen 7000 processors for certain games. In a recently published advisory, the Ryzen designer said it will work with game developers and other component vendors to iron out the issues, which revolve around some games running slower …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    AMD has become ...

    ... the very thing it opposed. They're a new Intel. With Intel pricing and Intel arrogance. Definitely not the flagship-killer "CPU of the people" of the Ryzen 1000/2000/3000 days.

    What a pity.

    1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

      Re: AMD has become ...

      The "CPU for the people" are 4, 6 and 8 cores. Which don't expose the issue by design. The six core 7600x seems to be the sweet spot for gaming. Everything above 8 cores is enthusiast region, or people who can actually use more than 8 cores since they encode 4k, 8k or higher videos like me.

  2. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

    Looke more like a WIntel issue AGAIN

    The problem is moving around threads from one core to another with no regard whether they belong together or not. So if a game with four threads is split among those 2 CCDs it feels like an Intel-sponored neglet of Microsoft to deliberately make AMD CPU look bad. The OS actually knows which cores form one group. We had similar problems with Ryzen 3xxx and Ryzen 5xxx until Microsoft fixed it, but only when pressure was applied.

    Thank you Intel, using dirty tricks again.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Looke more like a WIntel issue AGAIN

      So if a game with four threads is split among those 2 CCDs ...

      ... it feels like an Intel-sponored neglet of Microsoft to deliberately make AMD CPU look bad.

      How does (2) follow from (1)? i.e. how did you jump to said conclusion?

      1. Jou (Mxyzptlk) Silver badge

        Re: Looke more like a WIntel issue AGAIN

        It is a pattern since we had the same problem with Ryzen 3900x and Ryzen 5950x. And look how fast Microsoft moved when intel startet to mix performance and efficiency cores compared how fast they crawled to do the same for 3900x and 5950x.

        You have to choose ignorance to not see this. Or be paid by Intel.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Looke more like a WIntel issue AGAIN

          Possibly, but correlation doesn't indicate causation on its own. And without someone "in the know" at Microsoft explaining what delayed the response to AMD's issues compared to Intel, we may never know: there could have been a genuine technical cause behind the delay.

          As much as I abhor Intel and want to see it crash in a fiery heap for its sleaziness (I'm the author of the comment about AMD becoming Intel BTW), one got to be fair.

    2. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Looke more like a WIntel issue AGAIN

      Sooo how is an AMD FIRMWARE issue fixed with an AMD BIOS update

      a) A windows issue

      B) anything to do with Intel.

      The reason it probably took so long us when you startbfucking around wuth firmware updates, you better get things right.

      But you woukd know that with your armchair experience of the chip design world.

  3. Fenton

    Pricing

    Yes it looks like a bit of a bug in the OS, the real issue for AMD is pricing of the lower end parts.

    At the high end, i.e. 7950X they still beat the 13900K in a lot of gaming and productivity benchmarks (a big fix will hopefully help them get over the CCD issue).

    It's the 7700x and 7600x that need at least a $50 price drop.

    However the price is worth it from a long term investment point of view. With AM5 we have at least two more CPUs we can drop into the motherboard. With 13th Gen intel a new motherboard will be required to go to 14th/15th gen.

    From what I can gather from various rumors and Roadmaps 8th Gen Ryzen will have new Power cores and 4th gen Cores will be used as efficiency cores (albeit with less cache, i.e. Zen 4C).

  4. Kev18999

    Somehow these gaming performance doesn't exist on AMD consoles like PS5 and XboxX.

    1. Fenton

      Consoles

      You don't have multiple CCDs on consoles

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