back to article That was fast: MetaGuard emerges as an 'incognito mode' for the metaverse

Imagine for a moment that you wanted to spend time in what Meta solipsistically calls the metaverse, a keiretsu of interactive cartoon panoramas powered by commercial surveillance and payment persuasion. That's no small ask, particularly for those who recoil at the cynical rent-seeking foundation supporting virtual reality or …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Stop

    "Coincidentally, VRChat has its own premium subscription ..."

    You really think that that's a coincidence ?

    1. Joe W Silver badge

      Re: "Coincidentally, VRChat has its own premium subscription ..."

      I'm pretty sure they don't (from the wording of the rest of the article)...

    2. Greybearded old scrote
      Devil

      Re: "Coincidentally, VRChat has its own premium subscription ..."

      Well it co-incides. Whether that is by accident or design is an exercise left to the reader.

      (We need a nasty-minded old cynic icon (or would that get over used?).)

    3. The Man Who Fell To Earth Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: "Coincidentally, VRChat has its own premium subscription ..."

      It's always only about money. Customers are just grist for the mill. Privacy is just something they give lip service to.

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge

        Re: "Coincidentally, VRChat has its own premium subscription ..."

        Lip service - As in kiss goodbye

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I don't get the metaverse thing

    But I did learn a new word today - keiretsu. Nice!

    1. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: I don't get the metaverse thing

      It's gone in my vocab book too ...

  3. iron

    > if more platforms follow VRChat's lead, it could make it more difficult for those who simply must partake to assert their preference for privacy.

    I have a much simpler solution. Much like the original Facebook, I will never use VRChat or any other product from or connected with Meta.

    You can not track that which you can not see.

    As a bonus I won't have to put up with motion sickness, wearing heavy goggles or being molested by teen pervs. Result!

    1. IceC0ld

      " As a bonus I won't have to put up with motion sickness, wearing heavy goggles or being molested by teen pervs. "

      Wait, what ! .....

      err, exactly HOW heavy are these goggles, and how bad is the motion sickness likely to be ?

      asking for a friend obs :o)

    2. sabroni Silver badge

      re: You can not track that which you can not see.

      And with facebook trackers integrated with millions of websites that's millions of website YOU can't see.

      Or are you simply saying you don't have a personal facebook account? That doesn't mean facebook aren't tracking you.

      1. fidodogbreath

        Re: re: You can not track that which you can not see.

        And with facebook trackers integrated with millions of websites that's millions of website YOU can't see.

        Any decent ad blocker has filter lists for social media cookies and widgets.

    3. steviebuk Silver badge

      They're not heavy but yes, the motion sickness. Having not tried VR forever, I finally gave in last Christmas when my nephew bought his kit to my parents. The Star Wars none moving bit was good, even the lobby was quite relaxing. Then I made the stupid mistake, despite disliking them in real life, of trying the roller coaster.

      Jesus, it was weird because your head says your sitting still but your eyes and brain sees you're moving so it proper screws with your head. So much so I stopped because I felt sick, went home and went to bed having had to take some motion sickness tablets :)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Apparently sea-sickness is more likely below deck - as your brain can't see the horizon moving to match the inner ear's motion sensor. Any motion can make me nauseous - even walking if sunlight is being dappled through railings or trees.

        There was a theory that motion sickness is an evolutionary response to guard against eating alkaloid poison plants. The latter give distorted vision at odds with the inner ear's sensors - and vomiting then ejects the poisonous matter.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Our lives are being corralled and shackled by the IT constraints imposed for necessary services.

      UK Barclays Bank have announced changes to their retail customer current account T&Cs. In future you can only have a current account if you supply a mobile number. No mobile number - no account.

      Doesn't yet mandate a smart phone - even though they are now always pushing their app for access. It would appear likely that the imminent closure*** of UK 2G and 3G means even "dumb" phones will just be smart phones running apps. I can probably forget my economical £5 a year spend on SMS texts.

      ***HM government says closure by 2033 - but the major network suppliers are talking about 2023/4.

  4. Il'Geller

    As I said earlier, the Internet is over: from now on there will be some number of databases. For example, Microsoft is creating its own database right now. For such an AI database profiles on what were previously called websites are needed; annotated images, personal lexical clones of users and AI technology are requered.

    Zuckerberg is trying to compete with Microsoft by stealing my patents for the second time. But I won't let him! I can stop whoever: I got an incredible power.

    I have my Quantitative Theory — a continuation of Einstein's Theory of Relativism, proven by double-slit and light pressure Lebedev’s experiments. Plus I rewrote Maxwell's equations, first time ever proved by an experiment String Theory, brought Set Theory in Physics, and much more.

    You can't steal patents! The payback will be terrible. I’ll stop Zuck, Brin and Page.

    1. IceC0ld

      Blimey, when they offered you the RED or BLUE pill, did you go all XKCD on their ass ? :o)

      https://xkcd.com/566/

      1. David 132 Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Don't mock. We are singularly blessed to have the presence of such an immense intellect grace our humble forums. Why, he/she has apparently rewritten Maxwell's equations, invented half the technologies that power the modern world, proved that P=NP, got through to Directory Enquiries after less than forty rings, had lunch with Rowan Atkinson when he paid and wasn't late, and probably even met a nice South African!

        Alternatively it's just a knockoff of AMFM1's stream of consciousness babble, and should be ignored and derided.

    2. Steve K

      East Ham or Woodgrange Park

      Let me guess - you live in East Ham or Woodgrange Park (or maybe Upney)?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    appearances can be deceiving

    Scoff if you will, but remember that it was porn that made video tape take off at the beginning. That VR of Mark got me so excited. Brrrrrr. Come here you sexy man. Oh wait - I'm a dog. On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog. Whew thank goodness. Rufff.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: appearances can be deceiving

      However, no torso-or-below in the metaverse so no leg humping for you. Soz.

  6. Timo

    But

    But won't a person have to log in to be able to use their avatar in the metaworld? That's not going to be anonymous, is it?

    I may not be well versed in the dork arts, how is the metaverse going to work without the avatars? Or will there be the Second Life of flying griefer packs?

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Is that meant to look like Mark Zuckerberg?

    It looks far too much like a human.

    1. Version 1.0 Silver badge

      Re: Is that meant to look like Mark Zuckerberg?

      My first girlfriend taught me that "meta" means "dead" (but we're still chatting after 50 years now, via email not facebook).

  8. Zippy´s Sausage Factory
    Devil

    Given that FB are notorious for wanting people to "use their real name", I doubt they'll be very happy with this. But then the metaverse is something I never intend to use. If I want Second Life, I know where to find it.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    ''Defense against the dork arts'

    Well done, sir, well done

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