Just buy a second hand Brother laser printer and be done with this inkjet racket.
Epson has clarified the dread "end of service life" inkjet printer warning with an updated support page directing users to its Maintenance Reset Utility after critics complained about repairability. At issue are ink sponges within the printer that soak up ink that gets squirted out during processes such as cleaning cycles. …
If you want quality photo prints, you're best off ordering them from somewhere that'll guarantee a good print every time, without having to maintain an inkjet.
I use bonusprint, but others are no doubt available. The price is so reasonable that there's no point doing it yourself, getting hit or miss results, potentially having to cut the paper, etc.
For everything else, a laser is a trusty beast that'll let you print the odd thing off now and then.
Unless you use pro-level labs - which can be quite expensive:
* They might not print from RAW processed images, or at lest TIFFs but require JPEGs that reduce quality
* They might not print on the paper you like
* You might not control the output sharpening process and output colour (or B/W) profiles
* If you don't like the result, you can't tweak some parameters and make a new print immediately
"Hit or miss" happens if you don't have a proper printing workflow - including calibrated hardware and profiles. Depending on the image size and aspect required, you might still need to cut the final image - unless you only need most standard formats.
That said, newer photo printers like the Canon ImagePROGRAF have maintenance cartridges that are replaceable by the user as well.
Photo services have their merit but are no replacement for self printing. Both have their advantages and disadvantages and both have their place. There are valid reasons to use an inkjet, photo printing is one, and then a laser is no substitute. A laser also is no substitute if you frequently need high-quality printouts, regardless of contents, larger than letter/A4, and have no wish to break the bank and build an extension.
Real pro-photo print services will always print with a better quality, range of papers, substrate and sizes that anything that you can do with a personal printer. The only problem is finding the pro-photo print service with the right professionals and equipment to deserve the pro prefix and the price you will pay for final copy.
One might splurge and print photographs onto photography paper rather than plain paper.
Also, about needs.
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If you can still get it, the HP Instant Ink programme is genuinely very good value; as long as the printer doesn't give up. I'm still on a grandfathered 'free 15 pages a month' plan, which is all I'm likely to ever need. On the very rare occasions I need a couple of pages more it usually costs me not more than €1, and if I need a lot more (like 1000 pages) I'll go to a copy shop.
The downvotes may be from people who know that HP stopped giving free Instant Ink with new printers in 2020.
They had announced they were ending free Instant Ink completely but eventually agreed to honour previous commitments and continue it for the existing printers of customers already on the program. https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/17/hp_reinstates_free_tier_printing_plan/
The downvotes are because the punters here know that HP will remote-brick the printer if you ever stop paying for the Instant Ink, including the cart that's in the printer already. And remote updating firmware that bricks the device if it finds 3rd party or non-OEM carts in the printer. And other stupid stunts.
I have an Epson ET-3760 Ecotank and it's brilliant. Saved $100 by not getting the top of the range model with touch screen and fax (!) capability. Still working off the ink bottles it came with. Scanner with ADF, seems to work as well as expected. Previously had a Canon multifunction unit which worked OK but gobbled ink cartridges like a gobbling thing. And of course would refuse to print in B&W if any of the color cartridges were empty.
I also have a Brother HL-5250DN laser which is going strong after a handful of toner cartridge replacements with no hint of print quality loss.
And even though the Epson is not marketed as a photo printer, it does a very nice job printing photos on semi-gloss photo paper. Good to know that the ink sponges are user-replaceable and there's a utility to reset the maintenance counter.
The same here. I live in a dry desert climate, and inkjet cartridges dry out in a month or two. At one point I went to buy two cartridges (black and color), and they wanted about $70 for the two.
At that point I bought a new Dell color laser printer (back when Dell made/rebranded printers). I paid $210 for the printer including shipping. That was about 7 years ago, and 3 of the 4 toners are the originals. I can buy replacement toners for $11 now. Photo quality isn't too bad.
If I want high quality, I send the pictures to Costco (they use an optical/photographic process). They will print them for about 1/10 the cost of the paper and ink to print them at home, and the quality is better. One local place has a very high-end inkjet photo printer, but I think the prints are terrible.
"Just buy a second hand Brother laser printer and be done with this inkjet racket."
Buy a new Brother printer and get some warranty as well !!!
P.S. If you watch the local 'PC Shops' or internet they are periodically available for 'cheap' prices.
Brother is still one of the Brands that does not play these sorts of games re: Toner etc
Just buy a second hand Brother laser printer and be done with this inkjet racket.
If you buy a new Brother laser make sure to google how to reset the low toner warning on that too. :D
For occasional use though, can't agree more, bought a colour laser about 8 years ago, still on the original toner set, was a complete overkill purchase, but I expect it to last me many many more years yet.
Mind you, parents did the same, then had a desire for decent photo printers. The A3 Epson they got is annoyingly lovely print wise.
If you buy a new Brother laser make sure to google how to reset the low toner warning on that too.
Yeah, mine complained a lot when I put in a 3rd party toner cartridge.
A quick visit to YouTube yielded the trick of moving the DRM chip from the starter cart to the new one, along with the magic menu incantations to reset the page counter. It has been printing happily on $18 3rd-party toner ever since.
PS to any printer manufacturer employees who might read this: f-ck your DRM, and your 500-1000% markup on supplies, and your page counters that disable supply cartridges which are not empty. If you underprice the hardware, that's your problem. Not mine.
Lets not just bash Epson for this. It is also an HP trick. Their cheaper printers do this ink cleaning in such a way it is almost impossible to repair without industrial cleaning product. So much gunky ink is just dropped in the side of these.
I bet this heat has also killed many printers by drying up all the ink tubes.
I second the laser printer comment. And if I need a photo printed, I send that out to a professional shop...
Oh gods yes.
I remember when I was still doing the field repair tech getting a ticket to bring an OfficeJet into the shop for service. I was very glad I put the thing on a sheet of cardboard in the bed of my truck, because the cleaning area had overflowed with ink and had gotten pretty much everywhere inside the damned thing, and was leaking out around the bottom seams.
Dear Mr printer designer, I suggest a procedure called "Change the sponge": remove one screw, drop a plastic tray containing saturated sponge, place tray in self-seal plastic bag and bin it. Place new tray containing new sponge in the obvious location, replace screw.
Perhaps they consider arduous work of this nature to be a very difficult procedure that the average user would probably need specialist Epson training to perform?
This has been going on for at least 14 years from my reckoning. As I have an Epson CX3600 which I think was released in 2008 and this went into 'service mode' last year and I had to use the maintenance utility to reset the replace sponge error as it would refuse to do anything. And it was especially annoying as due to the age of the printer the utility wouldn't detect the printer when install on Windows 10 so i had to connect it to a spare PC and install of XP just to run the utility and reset the counter.
It's doing what it was designed to do. For those that want more words, the "non-replaceable" pads are a fig leaf for triggering planned obsolescence that avoids the fact that by other means this would be illegal. It was designed this way so they would have a leg to stand on in court when they got sued yet again. The make millions per year during every day they can tie this up in court, and there are no penalties to them for doing so. And paralysis and gridlock in the courts means it will take from three years to a decade to work through the system. And the worst they risk is a fine that is less then the money they made on the scam.
Why would they stop?
Epson do, or did, printers with replaceable tanks; I replaced the one in my WP-4535 a couple of months ago.
It took all of 5 minutes, unlike a MUCH younger HP printer where the "Removable" covers hiding the tank, disintegrated - and since these covers were actually the main plastic parts of the shell - rendered the entire printer NFU.
This has been going on for at least 4 years. I had an Epson printer as my last inkjet before this happened to me, and I bought a Brother laser printer. The reset utility didn't work for me.
I love the snide comment from Epson about a "local certified technician" - my nearest one is 422.56 miles away according to their locator.
So? The same is true of HP LaserJets, which were built in a different age. Supplies of decent old pre-DRM computer kit is drying up.
Heck, I still have an Epson MX-80, and it doesn't mind 3rd party ink.
Doesn't help the guy now that's trying to avoid getting screwed when buying a printer.
Because I was familiar with HP's old but still trusty laser printers, I bought a new one, and thought I was protecting myself by getting a business grade rather than a consumer grade model. It's as poorly built as the cheapest junk you can find at the discount stores, and is only marginally more reliable. I'm almost looking forward to the day it dies so I can replace it with something not-HP.
HP has not built a low-end printer in many years. Those are all just disposable plastic crap cobbled together from various third-party (mostly Chinese) manufacturers -- scanner from one company, print engine from another, etc. -- with an HP sticker slapped on the front. Add the model number to the download page for the 8GB printer driver and job done.
LJ5 here. Got it for free, as it had a bad fuser assy and stripped gears. Both easily replaced, new toner cart and $15 network interface card and it's printing like new. I'll never use another inkjet. I don't print often enough to keep the ink from gumming up.
Old Laserjets are available refurb. HP tried to bork them by changing their generic PCL5 driver to throw errors, but the old one is available here and works just fine.
> I generally "need" to print once every 2-3 months. At that rate, the ink has dried up Every Single Time.
This is such a headache. I recommended an expensive Epson business ink jet to two clients. Both of these died a few months after warranty for these exact reason. Throwing out printers with such low mileage on them is a horrendous waste of resources.
Laser all the way now. Never has the dried up ink problem.
Literally the best argument for a laser. BTW they are a little chonky but the Xerox Phaser color lasers give adequate color photo capability, and the toner is shelf stable for long periods of time. 3rd party supplies also avail.
If you still / need pristine photo grade prints once in a blue moon, just go to a walk in photo center. Or back it up with a dye sublimation printer if that makes sense for your shop. It's supplies cost more but are more shelf stable for longer stretches between print runs.
Epson's original support post advised getting the printer serviced at an Authorized Customer Care Center, but warned: "It may be more economical to purchase a new Epson product."
Why would I do that after being forced into scrapping a otherwise functional machine
It's a frickin' *sponge*!
I cannot for the life of me figure out why it requires an Authorised Customer Care Center to pull it out and put a new one in. Nor can I understand why a new one should cost more than a few pennies.
But, then, again, that's not the point, is it? $$$$
I've had two Epson inkjet printers where the sponges became saturated, causing smearing of ink on prints. I would periodically take paper towels and soak up ink from the sponge, which resolved the problem for a while. Like others here, I have given up on inkjets and bought a Brother color laser printer, with which I am delighted. When I want to print photos, which I do rarely, I send them out.
My 10 year old Canon inkjet printer died last year. So I took it apart as you do, hoping to find stepper motors, precision ground bars etc. No stepper motors any more, just normal motors and end limit switches.
But was disgusted to find a big nappy in the bottom of the printer that was saturated with most of my expensive ink. Obviously the head cleaning that the printer seemed to do every time I turned it on was sucking ink into it.
Have now switched to a laser printer (Xerox B215) which can't do pretty photos, but so far I think this one toner cartridge should last me a few years as I'm a light user and probably only print <500 pages a year. I've had it a year now and toner still says 97% .
I used to always buy Epson. I had Canon and HP but the quality wasn’t as good in my opinion.
My first inkjet was an Epson Stylus Colour II and I had no issues with it at all. I only got rid of it because I couldn’t buy ink for it any more.
My last inkjet printer was an Epson Stylus Photo PX700W. A good printer initially but when I stopped using it as much I started to get issues with pint quality. 3rd party inks seemed ok but on occasion the printer would reject them.
I don’t understand the problem of not being able to print in monochrome because a colour ink was empty?? I can understand that printing in colour might also require black but monochrome SHOULDN’T require any of the colours!!
The final straw is when I could no longer use the scanner unit because the ink was out. Seriously? So I now have a large piece of plastic junk that I can’t even use as a scanner unless I buy ink which doesn’t work because the printer hasn’t been used and has now dried up and probably needs a new print head. So I need to waste money on ink I can’t use just to use the scanner?
No. I now have a Brother latter printer with scanner unit.
Over 20 years ago I got an Epson Stylus Color 740 (I think) Worked fine for years without any problem. I didn't use it often and when I need it, the carts were often dry. Then one day it leaked black and was for ever prone to smearing after that (I suspect it wasn't able to clean itself properly anymore). I used it less and less, than one day it made a lot of noise and stopped printing altogether.
Swapped it for a mono laser (Samsung - now HP) which has been fine ever since. I never really needed colour printing anyway - though when it worked it was very good, but reliability is far more useful than features you can't use...
My mother-in-law has a Brother all-in-one and that's a horribly unreliable ink-jet. I wouldn't touch ink-jet technology again...
After finding out what the mystery ambiguous message actually meant (naughty Epson for not being straight about it), I just dismantled the printer, thoroughly washed the pad (a bit messy but worth it), used a free third-party re-setter (might have been: https://ssclg.com/epsone.shtml but that's a bit old now), re-installed the pad and away I went again. Easy peasy.
My XP-830 is still going strong. There is the WIC Reset utility that monitors Epson counters (I'm at 73%) , and you can pay a few $ for a zero counter resetting code, from www.wic.support. Youtube often has vidz on how to swap out the ink tanks. Spare Epson ‘porous pad’ tanks probably absorb up to 100ml of wasted ink – or £200 worth of ink, if not more.
To all the people going "well, just send the prints to an outside shop":
Some will look at the content and either go "NOPE NOPE NOPE" on copyright, or "LOL NO" because they are graphic pictures (if you get my drift) and they don't want the liability from dealing with either, or having to report it to the authorities because of some moral law about such things.
That's one reason why I still have a photo printer in house, because I'll occasionally print out artsy things that might run afoul of morality laws...
Since I'm on a quotation jag in this thread, here's one that spoke to me ever since I first read it as an undergraduate some 40+ years ago. Indeed, it might be that it also shaped my career and life.
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Two things fill the mind with ever-increasing wonder and awe, the more often and the more intensely the mind is drawn to them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me.
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