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Indonesia has blocked access to PayPal, Yahoo!, plus Epic Games and Steam, sparking outrage among local netizens so fierce that the Ministry responsible has wound back its restrictions on PayPal for a few days. The bans were flagged in recent weeks after Indonesia required online businesses to register as Private Scope …

  1. Mayday Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Yahoo

    Is this even still around?

    Didn’t even realise.

    1. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Yahoo

      Yeah, it where I send all my junk sign ups to.

      1. Mayday Silver badge
        Coat

        Re: Yahoo

        I use one of the 10 minute mail providers for that kind of stuff.

    2. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Yahoo

      Actually one of the better news sites these days.

      Yeah, I'm just as surprised as you are. Short concise articles with no spin. Like finding a coelacanth.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

    ...but plenty of smaller website cannot cope with this kind of thing. It's a shame that more work has not been done on Internet routing protocols. Blocking websites should not be possible.

    1. My-Handle Silver badge

      Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

      If a local government or entity controls the infrastructure in a region, no protocol on earth will stop them from blocking traffic if they really want to.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

        Sure, but if it were implemented properly, they'd have to block an entire jurisdiction. Like block all websites in Europe. It should be a lot harder than "drop packets with this "To IP Address"

    2. Mayday Silver badge
      Stop

      Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

      What’s routing protocols got to do with blocking websites?

      Ok. Before you get smart, BGP sinkholes *could* and *are* used to block IP addresses, typically to block a DoS these days, but it means you’d be blocking any and all services hosted on whatever the IP you’re blocking is. Which is why you can resolve multiple FQDNs to the same IP address and whatever content you’re after is sent from whatever content or application delivery controller/system the host has.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

        Wow - this used to be a technical website.

        E.g. IP addresses could be generated dynamically on the fly if there was a routing problem, and sent to the region (e.g. the US) where the service is located. At the point of entry the IP address would be translated to the real IP address.

        So, the sending country only knows that packets are destined for the US, with an otherwise fairly random IP address.

        I thought of that just off the top of my head. I'm sure people could come up with other stuff.

        1. Mayday Silver badge

          Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

          Not quite. Origins are to an autonomous system, and BGP uses a variety of path selection techniques to choose the best path to take for any given prefix.

        2. skein

          Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

          Really?

          Jeebus.

      2. UDP-Port-53

        Re: PayPal and others may be able to "keep up with the regulations"...

        You are giving Indonesian government too much credit. They are using DNS-only blocking. Any user with VPN account may laughing at that pathetic blocking trick.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    They should stay blocked indefinitely.

    Oh you missed the deadline. Sorry it's closed. Apply again in 12months.

    The scofflaw scum had two years - it's just another example of septic corporates giving the middle finger, or waving their dicks

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      I'd give them one more chance at compliance, and if they still think they're too big to pay attention to local laws, then cut them off for 12 months.

      1. LDS Silver badge

        Sure, but why start from PayPal, Epic and Yahoo! (!!!!) instead of Google and Amazon?

  4. Twanky Silver badge
    WTF?

    compliance oversight?

    Really? Do we really believe the likes of Paypal forgot or didn't know about some new legislation in a country where they operate? They tried to ignore it - and it looks like they're too big to fail so the government had to back down.

  5. HildyJ Silver badge
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    Good for Indonesia

    How they are implementing it is interesting but immaterial.

    The key is that Indonesia required foreign companies deemed “Private Electronic System Providers” must register. The registration requires a self-assessed (non-audited) certification that "they've complied with local security and privacy requirements."

    That's it. Foreign companies that ignored it are being punished - as they should be. From another article, it appears Google and Amazon requested an extension before the deadline and that's why they weren't on the list.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    There are legal systems outside the USA?

    Why weren’t we told?

    </sarc>

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