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Complaints over Microsoft's latest patch Tuesday have intensified after some Windows 11 users found their systems worse for wear following installation. The July 12 patch, KB5015814, was a relatively straightforward one that dealt with a number of what Microsoft delicately termed "security issues" in its summary. It also …

  1. Dan 55 Silver badge

    "This update is just awful."

    I don't know about that, any update which takes away Windows 11's version of the Start Menu could be considered to be quite a good thing.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "This update is just awful."

      Any update which takes away Windows would have been enough.

      It's blisteringly awful. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, they prove me wrong. Again. I should have known better by now.

      That said, the latest MacOS beta prior to MacOS 13 beta (12.5 beta 5) was also awful. Given the problems that introduced I'd rate it compatible with Microsoft's Gold standard releases. It rates as the first beta worth rolling back IMHO, which is an unhappy first for MacOS.

      1. BobChip
        Linux

        Re: "This update is just awful."

        I'll take that as advice then, and stick to Linux Mint. Always happy to learn from other peoples experience.....

        Thank you, El Reg.

      2. EnviableOne

        Re: "This update is just awful."

        the difference is Apple have a test and quality control team that fixed the bugs in the beta.

        and it was at least called a beta, rather than a release.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "This update is just awful."

          Also note that this is the first beta EVER where I had to do this, and I have been running betas for years. In a way this is good, I got too used to running pre-production code as if it's fully ready.

          Thankfully I have an as yet unbroken habit of updaing before an update, a useful legacy from when I was still using Windows which I just kept..

  2. DJV Silver badge

    It's nice to see that...

    ...Microsoft's commitment to quality releases is running as smoothly as normal.

    /s

    1. ThatOne Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: It's nice to see that...

      Aw come on, the new sponsored content is shown as intended, so the patch's main feature is working. Who cares if the user can't work as long as he can be properly monetized.

      Sorry, confused: So additional ad displays and such are delivered as "security patches" now? They really stop at nothing...

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Unhappy

    Erg

    Since my only Win10 device died I have been blessedly free of the need to care about this crap.

    Unfortunately, my other half has gone and bought a cheap Win11 laptop (fair enough, it's for business) - so now I have to worry again about this sort of thing.

    Damn you, Microsoft. Damn you to hell.

    1. sadsteve

      Re: Erg

      I installed StartAllBack and haven't had to worry about ads and I can put the taskbar on the left like I've had it for years.

    2. Kobus Botes
      Unhappy

      Re: Erg

      @revenant

      "...my other half..."

      My better half is (and will probably always will be) stuck on Windows, which means I am still stuck with supporting her machine.

      Don't know if it is related, but she had a problem last week with printing (Windows insisting the printer is off-line, even though it was not). Rebooting both devices had no effect, so I decided to run the troubleshooter (which has never in all the years managed to resolve any issue, usually just giving up in despair and statiing it could not solve the problem). Its first attempt ended in a "no solution" resolution, but the second time round (this was after the reboots) it told me that issues were found and would I like it to implement its solution? So I clicked on yes and, after several minutes it happily announced that the problem was fixed, the solution being that it had turned the printer on. Since the printer actually printed, I left it at that.

      Yesterday afternoon, after returning from work, her machine (a laptop) announced that no bootable media was found.

      It refused to boot from a Hirens Boot CD usb stick, so I took it in to a local PC shop (as she was anxious to get it working again and I really did not have time to spend on it), which fixed the problem by reinstalling WIndows, as none of the repairs were able to fix the problem. The disk is fine, though.

      Ditto ---------------------->

  4. Diodelogic

    No Problems for My Windows 11 Installation

    See title.

    1. Steve Jackson

      Re: No Problems for My Windows 11 Installation

      Concur. You can always find an outraged user in the internet.

      There’s usually an underlying issue.

    2. Richard Jones 1
      WTF?

      Re: No Problems for My Windows 11 Installation

      Perhaps the answer is to use unsupported hardware, so far, I have seen no Windows 11 issues.

      I did not have any issues with Windows 10 on any other machine either.

  5. CFtheNonPartisan

    3 PCs, 2 being clone whitebox desktops although with different applications, and the 3rd a new LG Gram notebook. 1 desktop installed no worries. 2nd desktop installed after about 3 hours of googling and trying this and that and finally eureka.

    The notebook never would install and the errors kept changing as I did one thing and then another; I finally did an in place Win 11 upgrade atop Win 11 and after the 'upgrade' it claimed the notorious update was included.

    FWIW I had 40+ years in ICT and have been around the block many times, but out in far orbit trying to deal with Microsoft. On one hand it is amazing so much complexity works as well as it does, but on the other the errors system is almost juvenile/novice most of us in other companies got over decades ago. Simplistically if you know what an error code is about and what probably caused it you automatically fix it in the software and keep going, not send the user bonkers.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Computer science?

    WRONG!!!

    Pootah science

    Sometimes I wonder if there are any diligent coders left in the world, feel free to announce yourself if you exist

  7. Colin Bull 1
    Unhappy

    Only Win 11 ?

    Had a support call from my granddaughter. After Win10 upgrade would not boot and BIOS did not see boot SSD drive. After 90 minutes of fumbling around it finally booted. I have not used Windows for at leat 15 years and was proud I never once said install Mint to fix.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: If only Lnux Mint could get some sort of sponsorship deal with Nvidia.

      If only Linux Mint could only get some sort of sponsorship deal with Nvidia, in that Nvidia provided drivers for every Nvidia graphics card produced and just supported it under the latest Linux Mint completely 'hassle free'.

      It would be the best OS by a mile and also provide Nvidia with the status of being the 'card of choice', when it comes to running multiple OSs. It would be win-win.

      It's the Nvidia proprietary graphics driver issues with Linux Mint that let it down right now, for the average novice. Get that sorted and Mint WOULD hit the mainstream.

      I'm a massive fan of Linux MInt, I'm just recognizing the issues users face.

      Have to say too, it's 15 years since I said Windows Update was clunky, rusty bag of nails, and it is still a clunky rusty bag of nails even in Windows 11, 'Software as a service, it ain't".

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: If only Lnux Mint could get some sort of sponsorship deal with Nvidia.

        Rusty nails keep getting rustier over time - until they become useless for their intended purpose.

      2. ThatOne Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: If only Lnux Mint could get some sort of sponsorship deal with Nvidia.

        > provide Nvidia with the status of being the 'card of choice'

        Pointless. If you buy a laptop, like most people, you already have very little choice, usually it will be Nvidia. I actually would had preferred an AMD card given on my last laptop the Nvidia driver didn't work at all, but I was forced to get a Nvidia nevertheless.

        .

        > Software as a service, it ain't

        Hey, nobody said it was a service to you, you egocentric...

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    and the workaround is?

    What are the steps to stop this update when you've already been avoiding Windows update by delaying it (only so long)?

    Threre's no mention on how to disable NetFramework.

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