back to article Meta asks line managers to identify poorly performing staff for firing

Meta will carry out a backdoor layoff by asking line managers to select staff to cull ostensibly on performance grounds. In an internal message to managers at the end of last week, Meta's VP of Remote Presence and Engineering Maher Saba told lower-level leadership to identify poor performers and submit their names to Meta's …

  1. Dan 55 Silver badge
    Devil

    "Look what you made us do, you made us fire you."

    How about stopping your business being so reliant on the casino economics of the stock market instead?

    1. Persona Silver badge

      Re: "Look what you made us do, you made us fire you."

      A downturn in business outlook translates to both lower stock market prices and a reduction in advertising spend. When your revenue stream is mostly from advertising there is not much you can do to counter that.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Frances Haugen received her pink slip over the weekend.

    1. Lis

      No she didn't. She left Facebook about a year or so ago if memory serves. Quite a brave lady in that she made her name public and has appeared before various committees blowing the gaffe. That takes courage.

      1. Kane Silver badge

        "No she didn't. She left Facebook about a year or so ago if memory serves. Quite a brave lady in that she made her name public and has appeared before various committees blowing the gaffe. That takes courage."

        May 2021 according to wikipedia.

        @Anonymous Coward - "Frances Haugen received her pink slip over the weekend."

        How do you get something so wrong? Unless you have a specific agenda here?

        Hmm?

    2. Roland6 Silver badge

      Nice to know Facebook HR systems are so far out of step with reality.

      Does this mean over the coming weeks/months, HR can update their systems, enabling Facebook to announce the termination of x under-performing employees; under-performing because they've not actually been working at FB for sometime...

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hey Zuck!

    Time to put away the metaverse toys and get back to mining minors PI, or you're FIRED!!

  4. Kevin McMurtrie Silver badge

    Vote for anyone?

    Someone that makes a lot of money, frequently creeps out the general public while representing the company, has caused numerous lawsuits, and is often a liability to making progress...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Vote for anyone?

      No, no, that's Musk. For Zuck you have to add "and has the personality of a house brick".

      1. Potemkine! Silver badge

        Re: Vote for anyone?

        Why are you so mean with bricks?

      2. El

        Re: Vote for anyone?

        But... he's so life-like! Almost like a real human being!

  5. Screepy

    If you work for Meta..

    ..get out as soon as you can

    Don't wait, just go asap.

    Hopefully if enough talent jumps ship Meta will slowly sink below the waves.

    1. El

      Re: If you work for Meta..

      They pay me $95/hr. As long as I keep finding the cash on the dresser, I'll perform whatever tricks ol' Zuck wants me to!

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I suggested that Zuckerberg be put on a PIP

    He hasn't seemed to get the message despite the Performance Improvement Plan. Time to put him at the top of the layoff list.

  7. JDPower666 Silver badge

    Whilst not defending Metazuckbook, isn't it pretty standard practice to lay off rubbish staff?

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      Yes, and I'm sure they're already doing that; you don't wait until you have financial issues before firing someone who is causing problems or failing to get tasks done. This is just finding a different excuse for firing people who otherwise would have been considered good enough to keep for a while. They'll probably do it in three rounds (two chosen by them):

      Round 1: Managers select anyone they don't like for the first cull.

      Round 2: People unhappy at the increased workload go somewhere else.

      Round 3: The people who look unhappy with the responsibilities of several workers because some from their team have been fired or quit and nobody is being hired to replace them are selected for the second cull. After all, they don't want unhappy workers.

      1. PC Paul

        And in parallel: a lot of your better employees who can see this happening and can easily get other jobs will leave fast and early. Thinning out doesn't only lose the people that you want to get rid of. Unless you are desperate to cut costs and don't care about the damage that will do to you in the long run, of course.

      2. El

        The problem with reducing work force through attrition is that the most competent people leave first, because they are the ones that can most easily find other jobs (that pay more).

    2. Korev Silver badge

      In some places it's easier than others. For example in the UK it's quite hard to fire someone for being crap, but you can eliminate their role and then make them redundant. Of course, if you employee someone else to do the same thing then the Organisation gets in lots of trouble.

    3. nijam Silver badge

      > isn't it pretty standard practice to lay off rubbish staff?

      No, in large organisations they're made line managers.

    4. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "Whilst not defending Metazuckbook, isn't it pretty standard practice to lay off rubbish staff?"

      Being in the 10% or whatever lower performers doesn't mean you can't do your job. If you keep culling the lowest performers, eventually you are going to be culling good people, no matter how big the org.

    5. fajensen

      Not really, people can be rubbish at their work and they can be rubbish at following the rituals that shows proper veneration for the organisation.

      Only the latter item guarantees dismissal, almost as if the work was never that important.

  8. badflorist

    Mr. Roboto

    Nice pic.

  9. Howard Sway Silver badge

    The thing is, they self-select poor staff by their very nature

    Anybody who would want to work there must either be an idiot or a cynical mercenary.

    The mercenaries will be the most upset when they get fired.

    "You can't sack me! I treat other people just as badly as you do!"

  10. doublelayer Silver badge

    A proposal for rebellion

    I want to call all writers, both of articles and of comments, to rebel against the name Meta. Mostly because I had a moment of confusion when I read "a 2019 meta-analysis on employee performance and job security" in the article and wondered if they meant that Meta the company was doing the analysis. Also because that name is just bad. I suggest we pretend they never changed the name and continue calling them Facebook until the company gets its very deserved bankruptcy. After all, we only talk about Alphabet in a few cases relevant to financials, and all their stuff still gets the Google label.

  11. AndrueC Silver badge
    Happy

    Ooh! Bell curve ratings. Dilbert time.

    Part 1

    Part 2

  12. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
    Unhappy

    Translation needed

    Quote:

    "Meta also decided to leave some jobs unfilled, its hope being that those who actually belonged at the Silicon Valley goliath would rise to meet the challenge of taking on other people's responsibilities."

    We have decided to make you work 2 jobs... your own and someone else's after they were fired for poor performance, please remember that if you perform poorly in either job , you'll be fired too........... oh and theres no pay increase for you covering for 2 people.

    1. AndrueC Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: Translation needed

      Dilbert again..

      Part 1

      Part 2

      Part 3.

  13. Snowy Silver badge
    Joke

    The talent have left

    What is left is not worth hiring :O

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  15. FirstTangoInParis

    That’s quick

    So note goes out late Friday and managers have until Monday to nominate victims, in July at peak vacation time. Oh sorry I forgot left pondians aren’t allowed vacations. In some countries they be lucky to get responses by the end of August.

    1. iron Silver badge

      Re: That’s quick

      Managers who didn't reply go to the top of the list themselves.

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: That’s quick

        Naturally! Any manager not "working" remotely while on holiday/vacation is clearly not a suitable "fit" for Facebook.

  16. Phil Kingston

    How will they tell actual coasters from those spending all day on Facebook?

  17. Winkypop Silver badge
    Pirate

    Round one layoffs have now concluded

    Round two will involve weapons and wild animals.

    Be prepared.

  18. EricB123 Bronze badge

    Actually...

    Meta is taking a page from IBMs playbook. If over 40, you suck.

  19. Detective Emil
    FAIL

    Rating on a bell curve

    Good move. Worked out so well for Microsoft.

  20. trevorde Silver badge

    Meta is the new IBM

    Next up: Resource Actions to remove dinobabies

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    line managers to identify poorly performing staff for firing

    in another memo line line managers were asked to identify...

  22. Roger Kynaston Silver badge
    Meh

    They were recruiting recently

    It was noted for my benefit by LinkedOut anyway.

    Honestly, you take a job that makes you feel dirty and then get fired from it anyway. That should be a plus mark for other employers.

  23. Cliffwilliams44 Bronze badge

    Do your job or you go!

    Well, I certainly see the Euro-centrist attitudes in here.

    If you not performing at the level the company requires. and you are not improving after the company makes an effort to get your production up to requirements, then you have to go! Coasting employees just drag everyone else down! Other people have to work harder to cover you, making them less productive. The problem with a lot of corporations is they make this process some big secret! They are afraid of "hurting the little brats feelings!" Of you make this process public and up front from the beginning if the hiring process, that you WILL be evaluated and your performance at a certain level IS required and if you fail to perform YOU WILL be let go then the whole idea of being a slacker is crushed from the beginning! If you don't like it then don't take the job! Then there is no surprise when your let go and no calling the lawyers because you "feel" you were treated unfairly!

    1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

      Re: Do your job or you go!

      The problem mostly isn't slackers but manglement. I wonder how many manglers will be leaving because of poor performance, but I am willing to bet there won't be many (if any at all). And manglement doesn't produce anything anyway.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Do your job or you go!

      >If you not performing at the level the company requires.

      Well that is effectively all of the workforce!

      I've never met anyone who has been able to maintain an (5) Outstanding and/or (4) Exceeds Expectations appraisal over time, everyone will drift into (3) Meets Expectations or (2) Needs Improvement. Remember "Meets expectations" means you could do better and thus are not performing at the level the company requires.

      Funnily enough, I often received a (2) because I was often switching jobs before I had fully honed the skills and so was always hitting the novice/intermediate skills level. I think in one company I survived because I created technical solutions and wrote proposals that consistently got the company shortlisted - which was part of the job description and thus from an appraisal perspective I was merely meeting the expectations for the role...

  24. iron Silver badge

    I'm amazed they can find anyone willing to work at Facebook / Meta. Between the alien overlords in the C-suite and the immorality of their business there is no paycheck that could make me work there.

  25. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    All well and good...

    Until a huge number of diversity hires get shown the door and the woke brigade cries foul.

  26. El

    Should every business get rid of their lowest performing 5% periodically?

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