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Dundee Satellite Station's home turf at Scotland's Errol Aerodrome is to host an Optical Ground Station to test and demonstrate satellite quantum secure communications. The name may sound familiar. Dundee Satellite Station Ltd. is a phoenix rising from the ashes of the University of Dundee Satellite Receiving Station (DSRS), …

  1. Pascal Monett Silver badge
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    Well done

    Congratulations on Science winning one over inept administrative management.

    1. Anonymous Coward
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      Re: Well done

      Science 1

      Beancounters 0.

      (Bacon 3)

  2. Sixtiesplastictrektableware

    Science! ...and Bacon!

    After the fall of Arcibo, this is welcome news. Real heartening.

    You don't know how much you miss good news 'til you inexorably get some.

    1. Mr D Spenser

      Re: Science! ...and Bacon!

      Gotta love the determination not to lose a valuable resource due to administrative incompetence.

      Also love the link to Bacon Sarnie article. Didn't realize how much I missed the late great Lester Haines writing.

      1. ian 22

        Re: Science! ...and Bacon!

        An optical link to the bacon sarnie? Is there anything bacon can’t do?

  3. Dabooka
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    Absolutely

    An article worthy of his writing.

    Let's all have a pint in his memory eh?

    1. Anonymous Coward
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      And a bacon roll?

  4. Anonymous Coward
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    In Dundee, offshore oil rig workers have to wait in hotels for their helicopters to carry them to the oil rigs for their month long shifts.

    "Quantum secure communications (another weapon in the armory against cyber attacks) usually run along terrestrial fiber links, but are limited by distance. The hope is that the use of satellites will allow quantum communications to be sent securely all over the world."

    Can you fake GPS? So can you fake the satellite quantum key exchange?

    Can I suggest that both the transmitting station and the receiving ground station are trusted, and thus can share a large private key (even a one time pad if needed), ensuring total security. So satellite transmissions don't need quantum key exchange to be secure, its the quantum key exchange that needs the satellite to be secure. That's not a good thing.

    As to whether quantum key encryptions actually works, you would want to send that across the most easily accessible connection, so the maximum number of attackers can test your key exchange. Sending it via satellite from Dundee is more like obsfucation.Your attacker now has to travel up Dundee on some crap train or flight, stay in a crap overpriced oil-worker hotel, bring satellite signal electronics with them.... yet if the key exchange actually worked, none of this would be necessary.

    1. John 110
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      yeahbutt

      "In Dundee, offshore oil rig workers have to wait in hotels for their helicopters to carry them to the oil rigs for their month long shifts."

      I don't think that's true. Oil workers get their helicopters from Aberdeen. The hotels may be over-priced (I couldn't say, I have a rather nice room in my house...), but they're not oil-worker hotels.

      Have you ever been to Dundee?

    2. atropine blackout

      Really?

      As John 110 asks " have you ever actually been to Dundee".

      The vast majority of folks travelling to/from production platforms and/or drilling / accommodation semi-subs use helicopters out of Aberdeen or Shetland (and have done since the seventies).

      Dundee Riverside (DND / EGPN) sees some charters, GA and regular Loganair flights along with a very occasional helicopter.

      Errol - the site of the satellite station - nowadays has only a few GA movements.

      Re TFA, heartening to see the engineering folks out-maneuvering the bean-counters for a change .

  5. Will Godfrey Silver badge
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    Good news indeed

    And we could sorely do with more of the same.

    One small niggle with the article though.. Fiber? What is that in English? Did you perhaps misspell fibre

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